No he exists. There are plates with the true anatomy and he does protect the female. All archangels names end in el shows their male...
No he exists. There are plates with the true anatomy and he does protect the female. All archangels names end in el shows their male...
Michael, Raphael, Gabriel, Lucifel get it? I am not being rude. There are true plates and false plates. The true plates shows he protects females.
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Lunitik
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El is Hebrew for God - for instance, Israel: to strive/struggle with God
God is referenced as male because it is honorific supposedly... Spirit does not have gender.
God is referenced as male because it is honorific supposedly... Spirit does not have gender.
Each archangel (notice the el at the end of that too) have a female countterpart called an archeia.
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Show me evidence. Look I am a Luciferian, I don't proclaim to know everything there is about Luciferianism and the archetype Lucifer, but during my 50 yrs on earth I do believe I have garnered a few insights . . . and I have not come across Lucifel, though I am always eager to learn new things.
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Can you show me where you have gotten this?
Male and female is a duality, it cannot be so outside the manifestation... then I do not even believe in angels, it is just make believe. Existence itself watches over us, what is the need for angels? It is already omnipresent, yet the whole concept of angels is that there is separate beings which watch us... it is quite bizarre.
Well it is no different than the terms for wo-man or fe-male. It simply refers to the female counterpart of an archangel. You can look up information on the twin flames and archeia. Shekinah. Also Eloher.Goddess ect. Everything in the earthly kingdom was created in the image and likeness of the heavenly kingdom but those in the heavenly kingdom really do have wings. The pictures are not a lie or some kind of made up fantasy.
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Lunitik
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Sorry, but I simply cannot agree...
Beyond the manifestation, beyond this phenomenal world, there is only oneness, there is only the void... this I have experienced - well, encountered, it is not an experience in that space, mind cannot come along.
Angels, demons, gods, these are all human fantasy, why accept these things without confirmation? They point at something, perhaps, but they are not real things at all. I have already said that existence itself watches over us and is omnipresent, this is what angels reference.
Just as what you see around you is reality like your own exisitance so do heavenly beings exist because your in the image and likenesss only dont have the wings. I know I cannot convince you but everyone has their own spiritual path.
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This is where you have erred, nothing you see around you is reality, it is the minds filtering of reality, the minds perception only. Even science has confirmed this in so far as it has realized that observing actually effects matter at the atomic level, among various other tests...
What you must understand is that your current spiritual path is encountering these words at this time... reality is one, existence cannot be divided and is not dualistic in truth.
Observe these words of Jesus from the Gospel of Thomas:
Jesus said to them: when you make the two one,
and when you make the inner as the outer
and the outer as the inner, and the above as the below, and
When you make the male and the female into a single one,
so that the male will not be male and the female not be female,
then shall you enter the kingdom.
Can you see that it is saying to merge the opposites? Can you see it points at transcending the dualities of this place?
There is a misquote there and he meant the two become one complete entity consisting of a threefold duality: Two that are also one but also three as well a very complex being that is one entity. This is an entity that has infinite life.
seattlegal
Mercuræn Buddhist
And you expressed surprise over my friend "getting stuck?"
radarmark
Quaker-in-the-Making
Okay, so let me get this right, you have been beyond. This means beyond physicality, IMHO as I read all the sayings of the wise and as I ahve, too, experienced.
How can you then say "why accept these things without confirmation?" And dismiss then as "not real things at all". They are as "real" as my thoughts or your thoughts, your experiences and my experiences (meaning they exist in call it "mental space"). People have experienced angels and demons (unless you care to dismiss most sayings of the wise). They are part of existence.
Tell me what I am missing.
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The manifest is a duality, represented by the trinity...
The reality of God is a non-duality, represented by the oneness of God.
We are part of that "infinite life", our being is still one with God even as we experience individuality through mind. We can realize this through many devices such as the trinity when accepting our role either as the Holy Spirit as is said repeatedly in the Bible, or as part of the body of Christ as is stated at least in 1 Corinthians 12:27. Either way, we then realize we are part of the duality which is in reality that oneness... the problem is that people try to understand with mind, it is impossible. You must experience it to comprehend it.
This is the baptism by fire which Jesus says he brings, rather than the baptism by water of John the Baptist... it is the same as what Buddhists and others call a Satori - a glimpse of the Ultimate. It is possible to go even deeper into that, to reside in that place although it is inevitable at death either way.
El who is GOD is father of the GODS and male counterpart to the GODDESS. This threefold duality exists. Proof of this was found in 2300 bc.
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Lunitik
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And you expressed surprise over my friend "getting stuck?"
Not surprise, it is dangerous without a guru because mind will fight to retain its mastery. It is a very strange result, as I said most simply run out of that state utterly and return to their previous state, some become very emotional even like they have lost their mind. Your friend is somewhere between these, though, he seems to have resided at a point which is neither this nor that... he hasn't return to mediocre reality or lost himself to the beyond...
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Lunitik
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It is fair to say this, it is beyond body and mind which are both results of this physical plain. It was a pure spiritual experience, not of physical at all, and yet the body has not died in the experience. It is much like what happens on death, however.
I can say they are not real because I have experienced the ultimate and they are not present there. Are either of our thoughts real though? They are as real as our identification with them, but they have absolutely no reality of their own. If we do not attach ourselves to them, how will they stay? They have as much power as we give them, but ultimately we must realize thoughts and mind are illusory.
What you are missing is that these things others experience is purely imagination, what I have experienced cannot be imagined because mind was not there to invent it. These imaginations stem from literal readings of the Bible, why is it that no one who doesn't have such beliefs sees them?
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Lunitik
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What is the proof?
Nothing of Spirit has a sex, what purpose would there be in sex organs for the divine? The divine includes all which is manifested, and yet it is above all duality... you apply human attributes to God, for me it is blasphemy.
radarmark
Quaker-in-the-Making
So it comes down to he said she said. At least donnann does not intentionally set herself at the center of creation.
So your experience trumps hers. Again, interesting, but not really relevant (nor believable). Forgive me, but I am slow and a skeptic. All claims about experience are pretty much the same.
Friend, you really, really need to do some reading. Look up the Bon heirarchy (angels) look up the Gaiwiio of Handsome Lake. And I really, really doubt that Christianity had any influence on the Tibetians or the Seneca.
Instead it is you with your limited conceptions that do not see them.
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