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Can you clarify which questions you're responding to?
Holograms projected by human technology may not be of good quality.
Can you clarify which questions you're responding to?
Holograms projected by human technology may not be of good quality.
NiceCupOfTea
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ok say you encounter a powerful entity, what makes you think its the thing you call God ? maybe its just a powerful entity.
and just because some one has some whacked out spiritual encounter why do they need to convince any one else of its validity anyway ? spiritual encounters are often relative to the person and have no validity to others imo.
Do you mean literally like in the bible when the white light and miracles show his literal presence and him speaking through those like moses ect or do you mean him speaking to each individual through conscious.
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From deep within us, our Spiritual Self has been guiding us unbeknownst to us. If you've ever had profound intuition, great insight, inexplicable knowing, wise perception in the present and in the future, or wise understanding of the past, then you've had such guidance. However, I think most of us just live at the surface of our minds. So, in a way, it isn't that many of us simply stopped listening, but rather most of us never gained such inner listening skill to consciously recognize such communications from deep within us as opposed to other things at the surface of our minds.
1 Samuel 3.10
The LORD came and stood there, calling as at the other times, Samuel! Samuel! Then Samuel said, Speak, for your servant is listening.
Would I listen to God speaking now - what a good question! Is God speaking to me now and I'm not hearing? This question reminded me of the above verse. If only that was my daily prayer? If only I could say with humility "Speak Lord, your servant is listening"
But to be honest my prayers are much more selfish and full of childish self -pity. I'd like more practice listening to God rather than expressing my own grievances.
Simon
The LORD came and stood there, calling as at the other times, Samuel! Samuel! Then Samuel said, Speak, for your servant is listening.
Would I listen to God speaking now - what a good question! Is God speaking to me now and I'm not hearing? This question reminded me of the above verse. If only that was my daily prayer? If only I could say with humility "Speak Lord, your servant is listening"
But to be honest my prayers are much more selfish and full of childish self -pity. I'd like more practice listening to God rather than expressing my own grievances.
Simon
seattlegal
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Sometimes it is good to pay attention to the weak and the "whacked out."
1 Corinthians 1
26 Brothers, consider your calling: Not many are wise from a human perspective, not many powerful, not many of noble birth. 27 Instead, God has chosen what is foolish in the world to shame the wise, and God has chosen what is weak in the world to shame the strong. 28 God has chosen what is insignificant and despised in the world—what is viewed as nothing—to bring to nothing what is viewed as something, 29 so that no one can boast in His presence.
Sometimes it is good to pay attention to the weak and the "whacked out."
1 Corinthians 1
26 Brothers, consider your calling: Not many are wise from a human perspective, not many powerful, not many of noble birth. 27 Instead, God has chosen what is foolish in the world to shame the wise, and God has chosen what is weak in the world to shame the strong. 28 God has chosen what is insignificant and despised in the world—what is viewed as nothing—to bring to nothing what is viewed as something, 29 so that no one can boast in His presence.
People near death and the weak and whacked out seem to have a closer relationship with god and can hear him more clearly.
ResistETIntervention
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God doesn't have any voice. God doesn't speak any language.
However, God's will can be translated through your True Self within you. This spiritual part of you has never left God. This is the permanent part of you that you brought with you into this world and that will live on after you die. You'll not hear voices of your True Self. However, if you can gain a listening skill at this level, you will be able to know.
It will be very rare indeed, that anyone will experience spoken revelations. This would not be God's voice. It would be the Angelic Presence translating God's will to the individuals. You know of a few: Jesus, Muhammad, and Buddha, for example.
However, God's will can be translated through your True Self within you. This spiritual part of you has never left God. This is the permanent part of you that you brought with you into this world and that will live on after you die. You'll not hear voices of your True Self. However, if you can gain a listening skill at this level, you will be able to know.
It will be very rare indeed, that anyone will experience spoken revelations. This would not be God's voice. It would be the Angelic Presence translating God's will to the individuals. You know of a few: Jesus, Muhammad, and Buddha, for example.
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And where did you cull this information from? (The Dummies Guide to God?) LOL
BrotherMichaelSky
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perhaps from Partaking of the Fruit (knowledge) of the Tree of Life?
In which the partaking involves deep meditation, and the Tree of Life refers to the rising of Kundalini within the body.
Inducing what is known as Higher States... From which the vantage seems clearer - and Truth rings like a bell.
or maybe it was a lucky guess?
I'll be on the edge of my seat....
In which the partaking involves deep meditation, and the Tree of Life refers to the rising of Kundalini within the body.
Inducing what is known as Higher States... From which the vantage seems clearer - and Truth rings like a bell.
or maybe it was a lucky guess?
I'll be on the edge of my seat....
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Eh?perhaps from Partaking of the Fruit (knowledge) of the Tree of Life?
In which the partaking involves deep meditation, and the Tree of Life refers to the rising of Kundalini within the body.
Inducing what is known as Higher States... From which the vantage seems clearer - and Truth rings like a bell.
or maybe it was a lucky guess?
I'll be on the edge of my seat....
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You're on the right track.
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Ok, I'll bite . . . (Serpent pun!)perhaps from Partaking of the Fruit (knowledge) of the Tree of Life?
In which the partaking involves deep meditation, and the Tree of Life refers to the rising of Kundalini within the body.
Inducing what is known as Higher States... From which the vantage seems clearer - and Truth rings like a bell.
or maybe it was a lucky guess?
I'll be on the edge of my seat....
How does eating of the Tree of Knowledge of Good & Evil have anything to do with meditation, and how does the Tree of Life have anything to do with raising your Kundalini?
seattlegal
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perhaps from Partaking of the Fruit (knowledge) of the Tree of Life?
In which the partaking involves deep meditation, and the Tree of Life refers to the rising of Kundalini within the body.
Inducing what is known as Higher States... From which the vantage seems clearer - and Truth rings like a bell.
or maybe it was a lucky guess?
I'll be on the edge of my seat....
From the simplest standpoint I can muster: (jmho)
Knowledge of Good and Evil=The Law
Partaking of tree of life=Partaking of the things of which there is no law against; love, kindness, compassion, empathetic joy, even-mindedness, patience, self-control. (etc)
How far you want to grow these trees is up to you, imo.
BrotherMichaelSky
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Because the Tree, is the Tree of Knowledge - not the Tree of knowledge of good and evil. And it points to taking on a physical incarnation... for it is only in the physical body that the Kundalini is subdued - to be awakened by consciousness.
Good and evil are personal labels based on the knowledge received.
and of course, anyone who you speak to who is able to access the deeper stages of meditation will make the correlation between the Tree of Life and the Path the Kundalini energy takes as it rises in the human.
The Aware Consciousness has this energy system activated - and from an energetic sense, it looks exactly like a tree......
There are quite a few other interpretations - but they all use that as the base - well, with the possible exception of those who only use the terms in an abstract way - with no personal experience of the energies referenced...
how's that taste?
BrotherMichaelSky
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You have a similar experience with these terms as I - from the looks of things...
for the sake of conversation I would like to ask your opinion of these ideas.... as you know, in these types of things there is much room for interpretation, and i like to explore as many ideas as possible...
I do not see a struggle between Good and Evil...
I see personal choice, and eternity to experiment.
Though of course there are the concepts of constructive and destructive energies - which is what folks are normally trying to wiggle around to fit their idea of Good and Evil...
but those concepts are simple Law, as I see it - and set up so that the system works... and is exactly what we are learning here in this particular school - to manage subtle energies to the point of understanding and competency...
Partaking of the Tree of Life only happens when the consciousness seeks the connection it has with the divine - and makes a connection - purposefully.
"Partaking" in what you are referring to - in my personal opinion - is simply a gift from our Father to us - no effort required... with the exception of the last item on your list - self control. That is the end result of the repetition which Karma puts all souls through... when that repetition is no longer needed, and the soul wakes and starts thinking: "this is too familiar - I have done this before", and makes the effort to make a connection with the divine - The tree is traversed, and the soul is free to experience Higher Spheres. The veil is rent and the soul starts receiving the memories of countless incarnations.
So, in my opinion, one is not "growing" a tree, they are providing it light, and nourishment, so that it might blossom... but until that choice is made, the tree sits with no leaves, hibernating...
BrotherMichaelSky
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gee whiz, what a way to leave out the point.....
God is constantly talking - we simply need to learn how to listen. When we manage that, we are AWED that He speaks in so many ways, to so many souls, and gives them JUST what they need to move forward....
God is constantly talking - we simply need to learn how to listen. When we manage that, we are AWED that He speaks in so many ways, to so many souls, and gives them JUST what they need to move forward....
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Damn, 35 years of being an occultist, a member of three prominent Magickal Orders, and a practitioner of both Qabalah and Kundalini . . . gee you'd think I might have gotten this right by now?
seattlegal
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Really? I don't know what you've been through, but it prolly different from what I've been through. My explanation is in line with with my preference for eastern-type process philosophy.
I disagree. Some awakenings are natural or "accidental." I see the type of consciousness you are referring to as simply being obscured in many beings.
Can't speak to the countless incarnations part. Effort/choice/intention is part of it, but the actual result sought should be in becoming a better person for the sake of becoming a better person as its own reward. Seeking experiencing the "higher spheres" as a sort of reward misses the point, imo.
Again, this does not take into account the "accidental/natural awakenings," imo.