If God spoke again, would you listen?

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I don't find this message very appealing either, but I don't see the point in mockery. Can't we respectfully decline the message? Or do we need to scold everyone who's "stupid"?
 
Yes by all means, I am very eager on what He will say and it would be a great opportunity for me when He will speak to me just like in the Old Testament.
 
I don't find this message very appealing either, but I don't see the point in mockery. Can't we respectfully decline the message? Or do we need to scold everyone who's "stupid"?
I like scolding . . . :D

Now, we have froiline wanting the jealous, violent, hate mongering, god of the Old Testament to speak to us . . . I'll refrain this time! ;)
 
I do not think that it is God, the notion of God, or faith in God, that some of you are rejecting. The tendency is to reject faith, having faith, placing faith, or there are selfish restrictions as a layer of prevention, and I think that forms a limited perspective that we could blame others for (God), but it just won't help.

I don't see life being absent of words, and I tell you honestly: I don't see God being absent of ways to communicate. A word is just a symbol. Potentially, an idol.

So then, don't look for the obscure, pick up the obvious people and work with them. If you can place faith in the least, then you can place faith in the greatest. If the least can place faith in you, then so can the greatest. I say: look for what is good, and being good, amongst the people who are not being good, and with that necessary presumption that God and other individuals are good, or can be good, because you don't really know... you can't help but to have a different perspective: if not one for God, a perspective for finding what is: being good.
 
I do not think that it is God, the notion of God, or faith in God, that some of you are rejecting. The tendency is to reject faith, having faith, placing faith, or there are selfish restrictions as a layer of prevention, and I think that forms a limited perspective that we could blame others for (God), but it just won't help.

I don't see life being absent of words, and I tell you honestly: I don't see God being absent of ways to communicate. A word is just a symbol. Potentially, an idol.

So then, don't look for the obscure, pick up the obvious people and work with them. If you can place faith in the least, then you can place faith in the greatest. If the least can place faith in you, then so can the greatest. I say: look for what is good, and being good, amongst the people who are not being good, and with that necessary presumption that God and other individuals are good, or can be good, because you don't really know... you can't help but to have a different perspective: if not one for God, a perspective for finding what is: being good.
In my case you would be wrong, I reject god as an anthropomorphic entity, and see what many understand as god to be the objective universe.
 
In my case you would be wrong, I reject god as an anthropomorphic entity, and see what many understand as god to be the objective universe.
As long as the universe doesn't object with you, then I guess you must be right. :D
 
As long as the universe doesn't object with you, then I guess you must be right. :D
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Etu Malku,


The New Message from God is not a religious fervor. It is not here to compete with other religions or replace other religions. It is here to warn the humanity of what it cannot know, educate the humanity, and prepare the humanity for the future which will be unlike the past. It is here to promote unity among humanity. It is here to expand people’s perspectives which must now include the reality of intelligent life in the Greater Community of Worlds.

If Hitler demonstrated any Wisdom that the New Message from God expresses in each Teaching, I fail to see it. Have you tried listening to any of the Teachings? After you have, perhaps we can have a real discussion. There are many recorded and/or written Teachings available for free, online for the world to hear and/or read on the web site www.NewMessage.org.

http://wp.newmessage.org/god-has-spoken-again/

God has spoken again because the world is facing its greatest travails, its most difficult challenges. The human family has created an environmental calamity that has the power to undermine its civilization—a calamity of many factors; a calamity that will alter your environment, that will deplete your soils, that will dry up your rivers; a calamity that will bring an end to your growth and expansion; a calamity that has been the product of decades and centuries of misuse of the world, with no thought of tomorrow, as if the world were an endless bounty that could be exploited without limit.

……..God has spoken again because humanity has plundered the world and is now facing a predicament that could lead to great deprivation and conflict.

……..God has spoken again because religion has failed to find its unity, except amongst a very few individuals and organizations. It has failed to bridge the tribal identities of people that had to be overcome sufficiently for a world community to be established—to transcend one’s immediate group, one’s regional identity, one’s unique customs and culture, to become part of a world community.

……..God has spoken again even though there are many who say this is not possible, that the last prophet had the great and final message to the world.

……..God has spoken again. If you could honestly recognize the need for this—the need for this in your life, in your community, in your family, in your nation and between your nations—then you could see that a New Revelation is required and that you are actually living at a time of Revelation.

But here you must be very clear, for God is not giving you a new superhero to believe in. God is not giving you a massive doctrine to adhere to under the grave threat of punishment if you should fail. God is not asking you to believe in one teacher. God is not asking you to have one theology or one philosophy.

God is bringing, instead, the power of Knowledge to the individual and with that power, responsibility and service to the world.

God is not going to give humanity a new idea over which it will fight and dissent. It is going to give you something more fundamental, something you could really only give to a world community that is facing great peril and upheaval.

This is a more advanced Revelation—not given now in simple stories or anecdotes, not given in admonitions, not pictured in simple pastoral images, not given in mystical identities with the promise of enlightenment, but given to bring the individual to a state of recognition and a sense of responsibility, not only to oneself, but to rescuing human civilization itself.

………God is giving to humanity something humanity does not even know it needs—the one key element, the missing piece, the part that only God can provide, the strength, the power and vision that only God can provide.

Without this, your technology will not save you. Your ingenuity will not save you. Luck will not save you. Denial or avoidance will not save you. Immersing yourself in hobbies and distractions will not save you.
That is why God has spoken again.

The Message is honest. It is so honest that people will run away from it. It is so honest that it will confuse the person receiving it at first, perhaps. It is so honest because it asks you to be so honest. It asks you to be what God created in you and to manage that part of yourself that is a product of living in the world.

………The miracle of the New Message is the miracle of all the Revelations. It is the miracle of personal revelation. It is the miracle of personal redemption. It is the miracle of personal and individual responsibility and contribution to society and to others. It is the miracle of giving. It is the miracle of forgiveness. It is the miracle of resonating with another at a deeper level, beyond the realm and the reach of the intellect. It is the miracle of your true reality expressing itself in a difficult and temporary world.

………God is not ruling the world, governing the weather. God is not the source of calamities and catastrophes, hurricanes and earthquakes and floods. That is just nature functioning.

………The goal is not peace. The goal is contribution. Even the greatest saints have had to recognize this and be sent out into the world to teach and preach and contribute wherever they can.

…….God has spoken of the Greater Community, the Great Waves of change, the meaning of your inner reality and the essential pursuit to reclaim your connection to Knowledge, which is here to guide you, protect you and lead you to your greater accomplishments in life.

……..God has spoken again. You must come to the Revelation to see. Do not be foolish and stand apart and try to judge it or understand it, for you will not understand it. And to judge it merely is to demonstrate your foolishness and your lack of honesty.

This is a great time of Revelation. It is a great time of preparation for the future. It is a great time to bring your life into balance and harmony and to prepare yourself for living in a new world, a demanding world, but also a redeeming world if humanity chooses to follow what God has provided.
 
The New Message from God is not a religious fervor.
Reading a bit from yourself and the website, I find the concept of a messenger, a revelation, and knowledge, are forked up into a double standard. For example from the website:

New Message:
To claim that there can be no new Revelations is to proclaim your arrogance and ignorance and to think that you know more than the Creator.
Only Message:
You may argue against the Revelation, but it is the only Revelation, and it will be the only Revelation. Whether it is accepted or denied, this is it.

Do you see a double standard there?

Some of the forked concepts:
A: God speaks to everyone, being the source of knowledge.
B: God speaks to this guy, and it will be the only Revelation.

A: Revelation is imparted by God.
B: The only revelation is being imparted to, and shared, by this messenger.

A: Knowledge is the teacher.
B: God is the teacher, having provided the true knowledge, and the true Revelation.

Your self appointed name demonstrates the same concept. Do you point a person to God, a teacher of some information? Or, do you point to information, presumably from God, calling it the new and only revelation?
 
In my case you would be wrong, I reject god as an anthropomorphic entity, and see what many understand as god to be the objective universe.

That is perfectly good, still you must merge the objective universe and the subjective universe to see truth. God is a concept, a pointer to something, a device based on a certain insight. All that exists is love, thus you must begin with an object to direct the love, then you can gradually bring the beloved and lover closer and closer together. Eventually, at the peak of love, the object and subject are not separate, they are one. You can also meditate, it will come to the same point but there will not be much joy - you end up with a Buddha, he is very dry, intellectual in his discussion.

It is possible to meditate and go deeper, yet still love and go higher. Now the love can be used go deeper, and the meditativeness can bring a more profound love - each feeding the other until one day there is a flowering. Now there is a synthesis, and that synthesis is the ultimate, the one. If you go in only one direction, you will be incomplete, half; never choose half when you can have the whole.

Know that as a Luciferian, Lucifer is your God, you are not atheist at all, not even agnostic because you have decided on Lucifer. Let your love for Lucifer be directed at the whole objective universe and then know that the subjective is part, that both make up the whole. Now, again, you will eventually find that love is all there is, but all your identifications must first be dropped. You are no different to the theists you are antagonistic with, the same has come in the back door. All choice is of the mind, drop choice and mind is not. It is only the little mind though, the lower self; when it is evaporated, then and only then will you know the higher self, the same as is pointed to as God, truth.

What you call it is utterly irrelevant, it is in truth nameless.
 
So then, don't look for the obscure, pick up the obvious people and work with them. If you can place faith in the least, then you can place faith in the greatest. If the least can place faith in you, then so can the greatest. I say: look for what is good, and being good, amongst the people who are not being good, and with that necessary presumption that God and other individuals are good, or can be good, because you don't really know... you can't help but to have a different perspective: if not one for God, a perspective for finding what is: being good.

Good is again another concept, and it is dependent on bad, on evil. As soon as you strive for good, automatically you will think of bad and evil. Why do you want what you have decided is good, and reject what you have decided is bad? If you take your definition from a scripture, you just take some other person view of what is good and bad, still it is false.

If you take God as creator, then whatsoever is he has caused. You say God is good, yet you point at some of his creation and say it is bad - you reject his doing. Do you not see that it is all necessary? The opposites have to be there for experience to be possible, perfection is never going to be so because then existence cannot continue. If you say it is perfectly good for existence to cease - and it must in perfection for where else can it go? - then you are against life, and thus utterly against God. I would have to say this is absolutely Satanic, which means adversarial.

God does not exist as a distinct entity separate from anything, he is everything.

Yet, still, God is only a word, you will have to experience God to know what it is in actuality.
 
God is life, life is God.
God is love, love is God.
Life is love, God needn't be brought in.

Drop the ego and existence fills the space, instead we use God to fuel the ego, another choice for it to cling to. Simply make room by throwing the ego out, the sense of "I" - there is nothing else to do, the rest is just busy work while existence waits for you to be open. Analyzing with mind will not help, it is just more fuel, just a further fortification.

Live in love, let love guide you, always it takes you home - it is the current always headed to the ocean.

Love is the mystery, and it is never chosen, can only be allowed, why do so many fight it? Drown in it and you will know true life.
 
If you say God hasn't caused something, then you say there is something more powerful, then what kind of God is it? If you say he can stop it but hasn't, you say he isn't compassionate, then how can he be a good God? What stupidity the mind gets into, every decision is another step away from truth, yet you go on thinking it is helping you. You think if mind can understand it will save you, you do not see that mind is the very imprisonment.

Oh, there is a mind after, certainly, but it is not the same mind, it is the mind of the whole.
 
If you say God hasn't caused something, then you say there is something more powerful, then what kind of God is it? If you say he can stop it but hasn't, you say he isn't compassionate, then how can he be a good God? What stupidity the mind gets into, every decision is another step away from truth, yet you go on thinking it is helping you. You think if mind can understand it will save you, you do not see that mind is the very imprisonment.

Oh, there is a mind after, certainly, but it is not the same mind, it is the mind of the whole.

I really like what you have said in the last few posts here. Another way of "looking" with our minds at something that can only be known and experienced.

That "mind after" you mentioned, is called "Knowledge" in the New Message. It has many facets but one way it can be thought of is the Mind of our Being as it is expressed in this reality. It is also said that our Higher Self is not an individual.

Blessings
 
It is also said that our Higher Self is not an individual.

I cannot agree with this, the higher self is the ultimate individual - in the literal sense of the word, it is whole, not divided. It has no personality or character because these are false hats, it is just a continuation of the past, an adherence to programming. I think this is probably what you mean, and in that you are perfectly correct but to say it is not individual is erroneous for me. To say there is no individual means you are taking away any uniqueness, you make each of us irrelevant and this is a very dangerous thing to say. We are each absolutely unique expressions of the real, and that must be honored. If we start ignoring the uniqueness of the individual we end up not honoring life itself, we think of the group and ignore the individual. In reality, no groups exist, it is simply individuals working together...
 
God just spoke to me.

He said you are right and these guys are all wrong and that, and he said

I am the Lord and all must do as I say
and that NiceCupOfTea is the messenger
and all must obey or perish

:rolleyes:
 
God just spoke to me.

He said you are right and these guys are all wrong and that, and he said

I am the Lord and all must do as I say
and that NiceCupOfTea is the messenger
and all must obey or perish

:rolleyes:
Which he, which you, which they, which I, and which nicecupoftea? Earl Grey, Chamomile, or Orange Zinger?

And I just noticed perish and Parrish...hmmmm
 
Which he, which you, which they, which I, and which nicecupoftea? Earl Grey, Chamomile, or Orange Zinger?

And I just noticed perish and Parrish...hmmmm


NiceCupofTea, is some fair trade type and occasional Chamomile, i feel i need to rejoin the discussion in order to point out how just how super spiritual I AM, not only that but I have a real need to be recognised for my super spirituality ;)

lol only joking really.
 
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