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Dookie Marcus
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At least not enough to want to see them again in the afterlife. Correct?
Craz
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No, not correct.
I have met plenty of atheists who do believe in reincarnation as well as many theists who do not.
I have met plenty of atheists who do believe in reincarnation as well as many theists who do not.
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Dookie Marcus
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I have never met an atheist who believed in an afterlife or hoped for one.
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Dookie Marcus
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Also, I am specifically talking about a hereafter not reincarnation. Thanks for your input nonetheless.
Godmachine
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What does not believing in an afterlife have to do with loving one's friends and family? I would think the belief that this life is all there is would cause someone to love and cherish what they have even more.
Have you ever taken the time to talk and really listen to an atheist? Perhaps they have valid reasons for what they believe.
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Dookie Marcus
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Okay A few thoughs...
First If you really love and cherish your family would there not be some part of you, That wanted to believe you would see them again? Cause after losing family members it gets serious...
Oh yes I have listened to atheists, Hell I oscillate between weak agnosticism and Philosophical theism...
I always have been a big believer in no matter what a person does or doesn't believe as long as it does not hurt another, then it is real and it matters.
Godmachine
Active Member
I am also an agnostic, although I swing more in the atheist direction. Ask yourself if wanting to believe something is a valid reason to actually believe it. I can think of a lot of things I want to believe but have good reason not to believe.
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Dookie Marcus
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I agree, thus why I am more of an agnostic.
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Dookie Marcus
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Oblivion forevermore freaks me out a little bit, to be honest.
Godmachine
Active Member
Why? Where were you for the billions of years before you existed? Does the oblivion you experienced before you were born freak you out? If so, why? If not, why should the exact same state at some future time freak you out? And how does any of that justify your belief that atheists do not love their friends or family?
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Dookie Marcus
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I know atheists love their friends and family, apparently not enough though to want to see them again.... For it to just all end one day forever, I think it makes the connections you made with people cheap. If there is no afterlife then nothing really matters, cause when we die it will be like nothing ever happened. That freaks me out. Thats why cause losing everything is depressing but I believe at the very least if that happens, then it will be a release from life and peace in a odd way... Of course we won't be around to experience that so....
radarmark
Quaker-in-the-Making
If you did a chemical study (brain and hormone functions) you would probably find little difference between atheists and believers. If you added all of humanity that believes in some form of re-incarnation (which does not mean "you will see your loved ones again"), hands down there would be only statistical differences.
That is my opinion at least. If you look at Whitehead and Hartshorne and Cobb (and any number of process theology believers) I think you will find little difference in the behavior towards loved ones).
That is my opinion at least. If you look at Whitehead and Hartshorne and Cobb (and any number of process theology believers) I think you will find little difference in the behavior towards loved ones).
Paladin
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How do you know? How do you know what goes on in the minds of literally millions of people? Isn't that the ultimate in presumption and arrogance?
Gordian Knot
Being Deviant IS My Art.
If there is no afterlife, Dookie, I would suggest that here and now is all that matters!!!
A Cup Of Tea
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This is not a fact or an argument but simply a conclusion you have come to, or learned. It can easily be tested by simply asking someone who doesn't believe in a life after this "dose your life matter", a lot will answer to the affirmative.
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Dookie Marcus
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I can believe that.
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Dookie Marcus
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Yes I understand that. Do you know of any atheists that hope for an afterlife? I'd love to be proven wrong.
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Dookie Marcus
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Yes when we're living in the here and now it does matter.
In the grand scheme of things though when we've been dead for million of years, What did it all amount up to then?
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Dookie Marcus
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The last part of what I said is an actual fact. To us when we all die it will then be like nothing ever happened, Of course that will be the case if there is no afterlife...
Paladin
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No, clearly you don't understand that. Because of the way you frame the question, indeed the way your thinking is framed reveals that you are looking at the entire issue from your own personal schema. Do you really think other human beings are as simplistic and two dimensional as all that? There are other ways to view this situation, but until you become willing to move out of your own world to see how others see things (theory of mind) you will not understand how an atheist thinks or feels.