Were it not for Death, do you think Religion and Faith would even Exist?

waggindraggin said:
Certainly I don't think God would be alive in any way that relates to our experience. So, I think the explanation is that we ourselves would not have the capacity to be religious.
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Could you explain that a bit more. I'm not following what you are saying the people would not have the capacity to be religious.
 
Devils' Advocate said:
Could you explain that a bit more. I'm not following what you are saying the people would not have the capacity to be religious.
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I don't actually know but am saying what I think based on smatterings of psychology and such. I'm pretty smug, and I have a very individual and eclectic view of psychology. You are a neural net to me. The difference between you and a machine is that you represent a struggle between various desires. Suffering is a desire. At all times a neural net is waiting for stimulation of all kinds both good and bad. Its pure hunger. Based on that if you become immortal you no longer hunger for more time and cease to appreciate time at all. Remove desire you cease to be human, and following that if you remove suffering you cease to desire. Desire is a form of suffering to me, but desire is also the source of curiosity and of our thirst for beauty. Our desire to live is a form of suffering, and its tied to our ability to wonder. So if we can't die we aren't alive, because we don't care about being alive anymore.
 
Namaste Jesus said:
Right on all counts Tea. I threw the wrench in the works as it were when I attempted to explain the question I posed. Some just decided to address that part of the post as well. No harm. It is a good point to ponder.

Certainly the idea of God is the reason for religion. I just think that without death or the prospect of a good or bad outcome after death, religion would hold much less importance. Just an opinion though.
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Yes, you are right i agree with you .
 
Namaste Jesus said:
Many times I've been asked, why is there death? Like everyone else, I know the physiological reasons for death, but am hard pressed to come up with a spiritual explanation.

That got me to thinking, would religion and faith exist without it? Who knows, but I seriously doubt it.

What do you think?
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Hello Namaste Jesus

This is a very interesting question one I have asked many times also. The spiritual explanation for death is everything that is allowed to reincarnate must reincarnate once and awhile. I think this time span between life and death is 2/3 the life you had on earth, if you lived 100 years you would get 75 years to try and become something again. Those that are allowed after death can help others to find themselves within their mind and to teach others to find answers in life to evolve as a soul and a species. In life we gain energy the soul needs to live in the after so you must live here in this world to get the energy to live after life. I have felt several entities that have moved into me that have some sort of sack within their abdomen that seems to pull something from the foods of those they enter allowing them to stay longer in the veil.

I think the real question should be, why is there life? not why is there death?

What I was told is the world soul objects like gaia could bring life to worlds but the life of these worlds would never become something again and again, so life and death but no reincarnation of a soul. Worlds would be sporadic and evolution out of control as things just came to life then died never holding or maintaining itself. I was told god created the angels for these world soul objects to allow the life of their worlds to become something again and again, to hold life at a point once it had evolved to a point of consciousness.

The world soul objects are of your god as they are parts of his mind.
Man is the children of the world soul objects as they are the life that they brought to the worlds.
The angels are of both the world soul objects and of your god, they are a mixture of both.
The angels and man born to this world are locked to this world due to this process which only allows these souls to be born here, allowing the life forms here to evolve without outside interaction.

The bible is still an enigma to me and something I continue to try and understand. I find very few similarities between the words of the voices I hear and the words found in the bible. I do however see how many of these so called prophets if infected with these entities may have come to the conclusions they came to while writing certain passages. I find by exploring many forums throughout the internet that there are others hearing voices that have VOG thoughts, what if they all sat down over the next 2000 years and started to form another bible what would it contain?

Powessy
 
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