CORONA VIRUS

wil said:
had a 2.5 month round the state's Fairwell tour planned...stopping at cities all over visiting friends. All my stops were in areas which are spiking..I am getting a refund from Amtrak
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Ah, wil. Hope God gives you a few more years to realize that trip.

Covid restrictions have been completely lifted in England, except on foreign travel and entry. Good vacc uptake. Individual businesses make their own rules about masks and social distancing. We'll just have to see how long it lasts.

There is a fuss here about people deleting the track and trace app because it is pinging too many people and forcing them to self isolate from work. The papers call it 'the pingdemic' so the gvt is making the app less sensitive. And they're trying to encourage office workers to return to their city offices, to save the city 'sandwich ecomony' businesses.

Incidentally in South Africa my brother's elderly father in law contracted covid after two jabs, and is still hospitalised, while his mother in law refused the jabs, contracted covid and has recovered completely. So ...
 
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Israel is now on the banned travel list here:

First to vaccinate and first to party, Israel now mulls lockdown

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"Having won early access to supplies of the BioNTech/Pfizer jab in exchange for sharing nationwide data on how mass vaccination drives affect the pandemic, Israel is a closely watched indicator for where well-inoculated developed economies are heading.

After months of euphoria, the data out of Israel is troubling. The Israeli ministry of health has twice revised downwards the long-term efficacy of the jabs — from the advertised 94 per cent protection from asymptomatic infections against the then-dominant Alpha variant, to as low as 64 per cent against the now-dominant Delta variant.

As new infections soared, so did the long tail of hospitalisations. Even though the unvaccinated were five to six times as likely to end up seriously ill, the vaccine’s protection was waning fastest for the oldest — the most vulnerable — some vaccinated only in December ..."
 
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5 PM, News from India.
India has vaccinated more than 20 million people today on Prime Mnister Modi's 71st birthday.
There is still time till 12 PM. Let us see if we can notch up to 25 million vaccinations in a day. I do not have details, they will follow.

As they say in India "Modi hai, to mumkin hai"
(If there is Modi, then it is possible)

"New Delhi: India crossed two crore Covid vaccinations in a day for the first time as the government raced to deliver a record on Prime Minister Narendra Modi's birthday today. The government set out with a target of 2.5 crore vaccinations."
Record 2 Crore Jabs So Far, Government Aims At Birthday "Gift" For PM
(NDTV is not a Government mouth-piece)

https://news.google.com/stories/CAA...1LWptRDJUc3FLQUFQAQ?hl=en-IN&gl=IN&ceid=IN:en
 
This is important imho:

Pfizer has been given the "green light" to be given to pediatric clients between the ages of 5 and 11.

Phyllis Sidhe_Uaine
 
Updates... 3rd poke a thing..

Delta spike peaked (hopefully) in US although Alaska and other antivaxxers areas in trouble.

Republicans hospitalizations and deaths may effect future elections.

Is G!d punishing them for voting for Trump (how many times have we heard that kind of talk?) Or taking them home early?

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7789199/
 
India update. Situation OK, except for Kerala and Mizoram (has more more infections and deaths vis-a-vis its population, 1.3 million out of the total 1400 million). One of the three predominantly Christian states in India. 87% Christians, Presbytarian. The other states are Nagaland and Meghalaya.

Edit: Thankfully, the death numbers are not high. Could be because of Myanmar refugees.
 
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With the combination of back to school, full capacity churches, ball parks and music venues with the delta variant the average age of the dying is dropping dramatically.
 
India will be completing vaccination of 1000 million this week. Even then some 400 million remain to be vaccinated. We are averaging 5.7 million each day. We need to hurry up. :D
 
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"There are lies, damn lies, and then there are statistics," Winston Churchill

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(The Times 3/12/2021)

What this really says is that, of the small overall percentage of covid deaths under 50, nearly half of them HAD been vaccinated -- if covid is what caused their death -- because around a-third of under 50s are believed to have/had covid without any symptoms.

Therefore the mandatory hospital admission testing positive, they are written down as covid deaths -- even if they died of another condition that was unable to get proper medical attention because of being pushed aside by covid?

So the headline should really read: Nearly half who die under 50 are vaccinated
 
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RJM Corbet said:
Nearly half who die under 50 are vaccinated
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Mmm .. not really statistically significant..

I think health staff are tired .. and one certainly can't deduce from those figures
that there wouldn't have been a significant increase in hospital admissions without vaccination.
i.e. there would have been many more unvaccinated people hospitalised
 
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muhammad_isa said:
Mmm .. not really statistically significant..

I think health staff are tired .. and one certainly can't deduce from those figures
that there wouldn't have been a significant increase in hospital admissions without vaccination.
i.e. there would have been many more unvaccinated people hospitalised
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Or it could mean that whether vaccinated or not, the chance of death below 50 is around the same, lol?
 
RJM Corbet said:
Or it could mean that whether vaccinated or not, the chance of death below 50 is around the same, lol?
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Here's how I understand these numbers: Many of those deaths of the 50% unvaccinated would have been avoidable. Higher percentage of vaccinated deaths actually means the vaccines help avoid death.

Example: Seat belts. Almost 100 percent of car accident deaths are of people who had been buckled up. If half the deaths were of people who hadn't put on the seat belts, it would feel weird to say, 50% of deaths are with seat belts. It would be clear that many of the un-buckled 50% would not have died had they fastened their belts.

My 2cts
 
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