Is Islam peaceful and a good religion for everyone ?

[stranger]

Are you trying to say love hurts? If so, I agree 100%

 

[muhammad_isa]

Inna lillahi wa inna ilayhi raji'un --- Verily we belong to God, and verily to Him do we return.

 

[stranger]

Indeed, we have been owned. Chronos has his claim, it is true, but the Most High is above all.

 

[muhammad_isa]

A Gallup poll found that 89% of Muslim-Americans viewed the killing of civilians as unjustifiable, compared to 71% of Catholics and Protestants, 75% of Jews, and 76% of atheists and non-religious groups. When Gallup asked if it is justifiable for the military to kill civilians, the percentage of people who said it is sometimes justifiable were 21% among Muslims, 58% among Protestants and Catholics, 52% among Jews, and 43% among atheists.
- wiki -

It seems that Muslims in general do not agree with the killing of civilians.
One might ask why the word "terrorist" is synonymous with Muslim these days.

There is clearly something wrong somewhere. We have the problem of radicalisation, where
young people are recruited to fight in "jihad" by political organisations. Unfortunately, there is a
lot of ignorance in the world, and satan causes people to believe "conspiracy theories" and such like.

On 24 September 2014, United Nations Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon stated: "As Muslim leaders around the world have said, groups like ISIL – or Da'ish – have nothing to do with Islam, and they certainly do not represent a state. They should more fittingly be called the 'Un-Islamic Non-State'."

 

[muhammad_isa]

I understand that Isa ibn Maryam ( Jesus ) will descend from heaven in Damascus, Syria.
And God, the Most High, knows best.

..so it's quite simple .. as Jesus has not returned yet, these organisations are clearly bogus.

"The Syrian people have been brutalised for a decade now and the country is devastated by conflict but we appear to be staring into the precipice of a dangerous new stage of the conflict … which risks a devastating new unravelling"

There are around 7 million Syrian refugees, and although ISIL has been defeated in the area, the suffering of Muslims is FAR from over.

 

[Tony Bristow-Stagg]

And what do you mean by love? Is it love for my enemy, hitting me on the head with a stick knowing all things are one in the great divine: that damage to one is damage to all, to himself but of course in the present hitting on me? What is this word love?

Jesus as Christ showed us what Love is, the instruction was to pick up the cross and follow him, to sacrafice all for the Love of Humanity, Jesus also offered we should turn the other cheek.

Regards Tony

 

[RJM]

Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind. This is the first and great commandment. And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself"
(Matthew 22:37-39)

 

[Tony Bristow-Stagg]

Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind. This is the first and great commandment. And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself"
(Matthew 22:37-39)

So we can ask our own selves, why is there hate or predudices in our heart for any other person, people or nation, why do we fight wars and why do we argue over God and Religion?

The same Love can be found in all God given Scripture, it is not exclusive to the Bible, as Love is inclusive to all scriptures and all embracing.

Regards Tony

 

[muhammad_isa]

So we can ask our own selves, why is there hate or predudices in our heart for any other person, people or nation, why do we fight wars and why do we argue over God and Religion?

I can answer that.
This would be contrary to the will of God and according to the will of Satan, by which we mean the natural inclinations of the lower nature. This lower nature in man is symbolized as Satan—the evil ego within us, not an evil personality outside.
- Abdu’l-Baha, -

Yes, there is "a satan" in all of us, I would agree.
How to triumph over satan is an extremely complex topic.

A Muslim is supposed to recite "A`udhu billahi minash-shaitan nir-rajim" when becoming angry,
which means "I seek refuge in God from the accursed satan"

 

[Tony Bristow-Stagg]

I can answer that.
This would be contrary to the will of God and according to the will of Satan, by which we mean the natural inclinations of the lower nature. This lower nature in man is symbolized as Satan—the evil ego within us, not an evil personality outside.
- Abdu’l-Baha, -

Yes, there is "a satan" in all of us, I would agree.
How to triumph over satan is an extremely complex topic.

A Muslim is supposed to recite "A`udhu billahi minash-shaitan nir-rajim" when becoming angry,
which means "I seek refuge in God from the accursed satan"

It is indeed a complex topic as I still have not had full submission over my own self.

May God guide us all unto Submission.

Interestingly, I see that is why the Message of Muhammad was given to humanity.

Regards Tony

 

[yitzak tover]

30%+ are Christian, who believe in the crucified, resurrected and living Christ -- with no concern for or obligation or judgement towards what Muslims believe, but granting them freedom of belief and worship, and of respect for what they believe -- and wishing for the same grace in return ...

trinity trigod voted on at nicea 325ad foreign to jesus

 

[yitzak tover]

Same old..
It's about whether Jesus is God.

..or as trinitarians claim .. whether Jesus and God are of the same substance.
Personally, I say that they are, but that doesn't mean that Jesus is God.
God is of an infinite nature.

bible ' god is not a man he who dies on cross is cursed '

 

[Ijaz Ahmad Ahmadi]

My friends, the title of this post hurt (uncomfortable) to me and my family. Here we have to respect everybody, every religious book, every prophet, and every religious personality.

If somebody is angry with Islam, I wish to recommend reading the following books.
https://www.alislam.org/library/books/Philosophy-of-Teachings-of-Islam.pdf
https://www.alislam.org/book/christianity-journey-facts-fiction/

If somebody feels hard to understand the Quran, please read these books.
https://www.alislam.org/book/introduction-study-holy-quran/
https://www.alislam.org/quran/Holy-Quran-Short-Commentary.pdf

If more questions please visit
https://www.ahmadipedia.org/
Waiting for your kind questions.

 

[Namaste Jesus]

My friends, the title of this post hurt(uncomfortable) to me and my family. Here we have to respect everybody, every religious book, every prophet, and every religious personality.

Yes this thread title is hurtful and hopefully now you know how Christians feel when they see thread titles like these:

"30 verses of Bible say Jesus did not die on the Cross" - "Quran says that Jesus Christ died a natural death"

Not very respectful at all, IMO.

 

[Ijaz Ahmad Ahmadi]

My friends, We all Muslims respect Jesus (as) as a true prophet, like Moses, Ibraheem, Adam, and other prophets. In my above titles, (If God will), I will prove from the Bible and Quran as mentioned in the title.
Thanks

 

[Namaste Jesus]

My friends, We all Muslims respect Jesus (as) as a true prophet

That's all well and fine, but to Christians Jesus is much more than a prophet and to say he did not die on the cross is an affront to our core believes. Especially when posted on the Christian board. So just as you are offended by the title of this thread, many Christians may be offended by the title of threads you start. Just something to think about as these things go both ways.

 

[RJM]

My friends, the title of this post hurt (uncomfortable) to me and my family. Here we have to respect everybody, every religious book, every prophet, and every religious personality.

The Muslim who started this thread chose the title: Islam is nasty?

He has been invited to change it but declined.

@Ijaz Ahmad Ahmadi Perhaps he will listen to you?

I completely agree with you that the thread title is unsuitable. We will be happy to change the title of the thread, but cannot do so without consent of the member who posted it.

 

[RJM]

Yes this thread title is hurtful and hopefully now you know how Christians feel when they see thread titles like these:

"30 verses of Bible say Jesus did not die on the Cross" - "Quran says that Jesus Christ died a natural death"

Not very respectful at all, IMO.

Sorry @Namaste Jesus but I disagree.

I am not hurt or offended by @Ijaz Ahmad Ahmadi titles for these discussion threads. I do not find them disrespectful.Why should Christians be offended if their beliefs are questioned?

I find @Ijaz Ahmad Ahmadi to be very polite and respectful.

To repeat: the title of this thread was chosen by the Muslim member who started it, and he can have it changed

EDIT
Apologies all round. I mean no offence to anyone ...

 

[Namaste Jesus]

I am not hurt or offended by @Ijaz Ahmad Ahmadi titles for these discussion threads. I do not find them disrespectful.Why should Christians be offended if their beliefs are questioned?

Neither am I as I'm sure not every Muslim is offended by the title of this one. I find such notions more absurd than anything else. Just saying, like the title of this thread, the potential is there for reasons already stated, for others to take offence and we should be mindful of that.

 

[muhammad_isa]

To repeat: the title of this thread was chosen by the Muslim member who started it, and he can have it changed

EDIT
Apologies all round. I mean no offence to anyone ...

I haven't recently been offended

As far as I'm concerned, this thread is history now.
I started it last year in the middle of the pandemic when things got a bit out of hand.

I see somebody rejuvenated the thread .. don't panic, it will pass .. inshAllah