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..then you should ask them?
I agree my friend, but find I am at such a weak point that I can't even ask the questions until they come to me.
..then you should ask them?
I would call it haughty to assume that I have the answers for everybody else?- please don't take a haughty tone when asking me something, if you genuinely seek knowledge just ask me
It wasn’t him. The spam post appeared overnight and we would have caught without your assistance(with moderator Thomas even upvoting a spam post about IT courses, which only got deleted from this thread when l queried if it were spam).
I would call it haughty to assume that I have the answers for everybody else?
It wasn’t him. The spam post appeared overnight and we would have caught without your assistance
You have already been warned twice about using insulting language towards others here.
Please try to behave yourself on our forums. Please? Thank you in advance.Please provide evidence for evolution by gene mutation. Please? Thank you in advance.
OK. Thank you, may God judge the matter between us with his perfect justice. And now, back to the topic, please?Please try to behave yourself on our forums. Please? Thank you in advance.
Yes, G-d does judge between us.OK. Thank you, may God judge the matter between us with his perfect justice. And now, back to the topic, please?
Peace, and please pray for me. The goal of this debate is the sight of God and eternal paradise. Let's be forgiving and kind to each other so that we stand a chance of attaining these two things.
If l have said anything wrong, it is from me. If l have said anything right, it is dedicated to God.
Wasn't asking you specifically, chum, if I was, I'd have addressed you.1. @Thomas - please don't take a haughty tone when asking me something...
OK. Assuming we can't, what next?the challenge of the OP is: show an example of evolution by gene mutation happening.
I responded:with moderator Thomas even upvoting a spam post about IT courses, which only got deleted from this thread when l queried if it were spam).
To explain: what actually happened was at first the post appeared as just one line:wasn’t him. The spam post appeared overnight and we would have caught without your assistance
@Thomas upvoted/liked the post at that stage, as relating to the analogy evolution of computers.I think software development has a great future.
..As an amateur, the way I see it is science has, throughout history, asserted theories (and even facts) that were later proved wrong. In cosmology, for example, the science is in flux (as is evolution, if I'm not mistaken), but until such time as we have new findings and new evidence, we go with what we've got.
So is there a viable alternative to the Theory of Evolution?
I witnessed that, personally.Sorry, this needs explanation. @SufiPhilosophy pulled up @Thomas for upvoting/liking a spam post.
I responded:
To explain: what actually happened was at first the post appeared as just one line:
@Thomas upvoted/liked the post at that stage, as relating to the analogy evolution of computers.
A couple of days later a spam attachment and plug for IT courses was added to the post.
When @SufiPhilosophy picked up the post, he commented, and it was taken down.
A bit of a misunderstanding is what it was ...
But the larger Theory of Evolution seems fenced off from the discussion here. He is demanding concrete evidence of a new species evolving by gene mutation, on which the larger ToE pivots, he believes. And all 'in your own words' no links allowed.Well, what actually is the ToE?
Some people would have us believe that all theories surrounding the core are fact.
This is dishonest .. and as @SufiPhilosophy suggests .. unlikely.
A great deal of the difference is presentation. You are here to discuss. Sufi is here to tell. If he can't get away with standing on a soapbox, he will debate in gladiatorial style with his personally hand picked set of rules that hamstring the opponent. His constant "moving the goalposts" by adjusting his rules in his favor demonstrate to me this is deliberate, not accidental or unintentional. He is not practicing logic, he is practicing rhetoric, and despite his words he is doing so in an intellectually dishonest manner.Well, what actually is the ToE?
Some people would have us believe that all theories surrounding the core are fact.
This is dishonest .. and as @SufiPhilosophy suggests .. unlikely.
I don't personally accept all scientific theories .. anymore than I accept that a creature, such as dajal, can be God.
[ by definition, a creature is created]
Like most things, a simple thing that becomes very complex once you start to interrogate it.Well, what actually is the ToE?
Perhaps, but who are these 'some people', and do they speak definitively for the theory?Some people would have us believe that all theories surrounding the core are fact.
Nor do I.I don't personally accept all scientific theories ..
Yes, that's what I believe, too.anymore than I accept that a creature, such as dajal, can be God.
[ by definition, a creature is created]
Perhaps, but who are these 'some people', and do they speak definitively for the theory?
It would seem erroneous to me – the name says theory. It may well be 100% reliable, trustworthy and answer a whole heap of questions, but within strict scientific nomenclature, it's a theory until its demonstrably proved a fact.
This requires a carefully worded response which involvesa. straight forward understanding about how such passive aggressive sanctimonious non responses like this and other similar by this participant are not conducive to discussion and unacceptable. It should be written without sarcasm, snark or hyperbole.OK. Thank you, may God judge the matter between us with his perfect justice. And now, back to the topic, please?