Ijaz Ahmad Ahmadi
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When we read the Bible, there are 30 verses that say " Jesus did not die on the cross". we can explain it here. (If God wills)
You are invited to do soWhen we read the Bible, there are 30 verses that say " Jesus did not die on the cross". we can explain it here. (If God wills)
This conclusion is quite a stretch, imo. It is certainly open to question ...Jesus’s reference to the sign of Jonah simply means that he would not die on the cross. Therefore, there is every reason to believe that the swoon theory is not based on a wrong hypothesis.
The resemblance is that both Jesus and Jonah carried a warning for their generations, and both emerged alive after three days in sheol. It does not mean Jesus entered the tomb alive. That is not the take-away point, imoPlease read again my previous post and try to reply.
(Now, what is the resemblance between the two signs of Jonah and Jesus? It is nothing but going alive into the belly of the fish and the heart of the earth and coming out alive. Both Jonah and Jesus cried by reason of their respective afflictions and prayed to their Lord for deliverance. The prayers of both were heard. If Jesus did not enter the heart of the earth (sepulcher) alive and come out alive, where is the resemblance of the two signs?)
Interesting point NJWell by some interpretation, while Jonah was crying out for help, Jesus was reciting Psalms 22. That which was written 1000 years prior. In other words, look, it's happening! Even in utter agony, Jesus never stopped teaching.
A crucified man had to keep pulling himself up in order to breathe. It was not possible to lose consciousness. That was the cruelty of crucifixion. If Jesus had lost consciousness on the cross he would have died by asphixiation. To say nothing of being thrust through with a spear.
In any event, he would have been in no condition to be walking around and talking after 3 days, imo
But if he had lost consciousness, he wouldn't have been able to breathe? And he was run through with a spear?Jesus was a healthy 33 years old man. There was no reason for him to die on the cross within few hours. His legs weren’t broken either. Even Pontius Pilot was surprised that how Jesus died so quickly.
But that doesn't mean Jesus didn't die on the cross? It means that Pilate's wife had a dream? Matthew's gospel reports on several events surrounding the crucifixion; the dream is just one of several events.my 2nd part:
II – Pontius Pilate’s wife sees a dream
“When he (Pilate) was set down on the Judgement seat, his wife sent unto him, saying, Have you nothing to do with that just man (Jesus): for I have suffered many things this day in a dream because of him”. (Matthew 27:19)
The lady’s dream was really true and quite opportune. It purports to mean that Christ be saved from the accursed death on the Cross. God saves his dear ones by means of dreams of others as was the case with Joseph who was released from jail having interpreted the two dreams of Pharaoh. God wanted to protect Jesus against his enemies, hence the dream of the Roman governor’s wife which influenced his judgment.
To be fair, the best that we can say, regarding his health, is that he appears to be healthy in the limited material available.Jesus was a healthy 33 years old man. There was no reason for him to die on the cross within few hours.