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Citation please,?How? A potential option refers to the death penalty. The other option is life imprisonment.
Citation please,?How? A potential option refers to the death penalty. The other option is life imprisonment.
Citation please,?
86. Should anyone intentionally destroy a house by fire, him also shall ye burn; should anyone deliberately take another’s life, him also shall ye put to death.
The law of Bahá’u’lláh prescribes the death penalty for murder and arson, with the alternative of life imprisonment (see note 87).
(The Kitáb-i-Aqdas)
www.bahai.org/r/774091189
87. Should ye condemn the arsonist and the murderer to life imprisonment, it would be permissible according to the provisions of the Book. ¶62
Shoghi Effendi, in response to a question about this verse of the Aqdas, affirmed that while capital punishment is permitted, an alternative, “life imprisonment,” has been provided “whereby the rigors of such a condemnation can be seriously mitigated.” He states that “Bahá’u’lláh has given us a choice and has, therefore, left us free to use our own discretion within certain limitations imposed by His law.” In the absence of specific guidance concerning the application of this aspect of Bahá’í law, it remains for the Universal House of Justice to legislate on the matter in the future.
That's strange....86. Should anyone intentionally destroy a house by fire, him also shall ye burn; should anyone deliberately take another’s life, him also shall ye put to death.
The law of Bahá’u’lláh prescribes the death penalty for murder and arson, with the alternative of life imprisonment (see note 87).
(The Kitáb-i-Aqdas)
www.bahai.org/r/774091189
87. Should ye condemn the arsonist and the murderer to life imprisonment, it would be permissible according to the provisions of the Book. ¶62
Shoghi Effendi, in response to a question about this verse of the Aqdas, affirmed that while capital punishment is permitted, an alternative, “life imprisonment,” has been provided “whereby the rigors of such a condemnation can be seriously mitigated.” He states that “Bahá’u’lláh has given us a choice and has, therefore, left us free to use our own discretion within certain limitations imposed by His law.” In the absence of specific guidance concerning the application of this aspect of Bahá’í law, it remains for the Universal House of Justice to legislate on the matter in the future.
(The Kitáb-i-Aqdas)
www.bahai.org/r/396574667
That's strange....
I was waiting for section 61 of the Aqdas, like so
The political campaigning of Baha’is in the west against the government of Iran could actually be making things worse for the Baha’is there, helping the Iranian government to brand the Baha’i Faith as as an anti-Iranian political movement and not a true religion.
....concerning the application of this aspect of Bahá’í law, it remains for the Universal House of Justice to legislate on the matter in the future.....
Aup.... I think that the UHJ can indeed adjust, include, add and redact Bahai law when sitting as one, in quorum. And so it could, if it wished, announce that all/any provisions for the enforcement of criminal laws by Bahai are redacted... maybe? This would totally eradicate any suggestion that Bahai might wish, one day, to rule any communities at all. ....... if it wanted to. ???
The political campaigning of Baha’is in the west against the government of Iran could actually be making things worse for the Baha’is there, helping the Iranian government to brand the Baha’i Faith as as an anti-Iranian political movement and not a true religion.
I was waiting to see yours........ What a sweet piece of legislation. In the West we thought Bahai was just sweetness and love, until we saw the translations. I think that's how folks like Juan Cole got in to trouble.Then why ask since you already have the answer?
They already know, Longfellow.....The political campaigning of Baha’is in the west against the government of Iran could actually be making things worse for the Baha’is there, helping the Iranian government to brand the Baha’i Faith as as an anti-Iranian political movement and not a true religion.
You asked Longfellow for an example of Bahai being 'political'?Example?
Tony..... they changed the marriage laws.That is nearly right OB. The laws already stated are not able to be changed. They will stand for this dispensation.
I know..... when a religion's World assembly can pass and alter criminal laws and sentences, you know its not just a theological assembly!The Universal House of Justice can enact and repeal laws that are not already in the book. Also the details of the laws already set, such as the penalties, are also able to be set and repealed, as many laws do not yet have the set penalty details given.
Regards Tony
Tony..... they changed the marriage laws
I know..... when a religion's World assembly can pass and alter criminal laws and sentences, you know its not just a theological assembly!
That House of Justice in a Bahai World? Now that would be a real shocker.
Shoghi (or House of Justice, for that matter) had/have no right to amend what Bahaollah said. This is corruption of Allah's message.86. Should anyone intentionally destroy a house by fire, him also shall ye burn; should anyone deliberately take another’s life, him also shall ye put to death.
Shoghi (or House of Justice, for that matter) had/have no right to amend what Bahaollah said. This is corruption of Allah's message.
Allah's message was categorical. Why should there be any doubt?
Furthermore, all those who go by amended laws are no longer Bahais and are 'covenant breakers'.
Hang on........ I've read the doctrine, the laws, the system......... World Order? Terrifying imo.One has absolutely no idea what that will be like, as no one living today could know. In fact I would offer it will be the opposite, it will be Paradise, God's Kingdom on Earth as it is in Heaven.
So, they are really ludicrous statements OB, but you already know that.
Regards Tony
Shoghi (or House of Justice, for that matter) had/have no right to amend what Bahaollah said. This is corruption of Allah's message.
Allah's message was categorical. Why should there be any doubt?
Furthermore, all those who go by amended laws are no longer Bahais and are 'covenant breakers'.
In fact, it was Baha'u'llah that gave them that Authority.
Regards Tony