New Messiahs

[Aupmanyav]

If I understand correctly, annatta refers to there being no permanent soul, annicca refers to constant change, and skandahs refers to experience from the senses, thought content, and consciousness.

Skandhas are portions, associations. And because of their meetings, things exist. Sort of Hydrogen and Oxygen being there to create water.
You know I am not a Buddhist. And I dare not go into details which are more boggling than Hinduism.

 

[Aupmanyav]

I would say you are not an atheist. This to begin with. I think acceptance is the oppsit of fighting.
People fight and lose. Yet there is no approval not to fight. What happened is bribe.
After bribe there is acceptance what is very manipulative if you ask me.
Acceptance is appease things while we should not appear but matter. Or else there is no progress but stagnation in development. Negative is sometimes good. Actually good and evil are most often both explained absolutely wrong as if we can judge about it what is arrogant of us to think.

Well, I am what I am, till I have this human form. Otherwise, I am the stuff of the universe, Brahman.

 

[spiritualbee]

I do not really need this blessing. Send it to Ukrainians and Palestinians and see if it succeeds.

A good idea. I actually always need proof. Also about Palestinian. But if you can proof it I would really appreciate it.

 

[spiritualbee]

Well, I am what I am, till I have this human form. Otherwise, I am the stuff of the universe, Brahman.

Interesting. I just see Hinduism and Buddhism as a religion. It was an very old Chinese philosopher that brought me to shame with his words 'through science I found God, and I can't understand those who can not belief in a God.
For Him I always will belief in God. His words were beautiful. And he was is a philosopher.

 

[Tony Bristow-Stagg]

I read a story about an Israeli king who was afraid to be defeated by other Israeli tribes and he asked a prophet to lie to the Israeli tribes.,And the prophet in the beginning did not want to do that. I can not find this story anymore. Do you perhaps know the name of this king?

Maybe from 1 Kings 22:22 And the Lord said unto him, Wherewith? And he said, I will go forth, and I will be a lying spirit in the mouth of all his prophets. And he said, Thou shalt persuade him, and prevail also: go forth, and do so.

23 Now therefore, behold, the Lord hath put a lying spirit in the mouth of all these thy prophets, and the Lord hath spoken evil concerning thee.

Regards Tony

 

[spiritualbee]

Maybe from 1 Kings 22:22 And the Lord said unto him, Wherewith? And he said, I will go forth, and I will be a lying spirit in the mouth of all his prophets. And he said, Thou shalt persuade him, and prevail also: go forth, and do so.

23 Now therefore, behold, the Lord hath put a lying spirit in the mouth of all these thy prophets, and the Lord hath spoken evil concerning thee.

Regards Tony what sounds as Baal.

All I remember is that the name of the king started with

 

[Aupmanyav]

Interesting. I just see Hinduism and Buddhism as a religion. It was an very old Chinese philosopher that brought me to shame with his words 'through science I found God, and I can't understand those who can not belief in a God.
For Him I always will belief in God. His words were beautiful. And he was is a philosopher.

He was a philosopher. Had he studied science?

 

[spiritualbee]

He was a philosopher. Had he studied science?

PHILOSOPHERS ARE SCIENCE BELIEVED ALWAYS IN GOD.

 

[Ahanu]

Interesting. I just see Hinduism and Buddhism as a religion. It was an very old Chinese philosopher that brought me to shame with his words 'through science I found God, and I can't understand those who can not belief in a God.
For Him I always will belief in God. His words were beautiful. And he was is a philosopher.

Which Chinese philosopher are you referring to in your discussion with @Aupmanyav here?

 

[spiritualbee]

Which Chinese philosopher are you referring to in your discussion with @Aupmanyav here?

Unfortunity I never remember names. But it was one of the first philosophers so it was long time ago.

 

[TheLightWithin]

PHILOSOPHERS ARE SCIENCE BELIEVED ALWAYS IN GOD.

What do you mean by this?

 

[TheLightWithin]

Unfortunity I never remember names. But it was one of the first philosophers so it was long time ago.

Can you look it up?

 

[spiritualbee]

What do you mean by this?

I mean that science is actually the same as philosophy.

 

[spiritualbee]

Can you look it up?

No. That is not possible. They also always have completed names to remember. I just came pass by an article and I forgot which one.

 

[Aupmanyav]

I mean that science is actually the same as philosophy.

Yeah, it is the same if findings of science are accepted and not what was written by people who were selling their snake oil.

 

[TheLightWithin]

I mean that science is actually the same as philosophy.

I'm still not sure what you mean.
Unless you mean that science as we know it today was once called natural philosophy, and that there is a sub field of philosophy called philosophy of science which is about, among other things, the study of the foundations and methods of science, including scrutiny of the scientific method and what makes it work.
But you could have said that. You made me supply the answer.
I still want to know what you meant.

 

[spiritualbee]

I'm still not sure what you mean.
Unless you mean that science as we know it today was once called natural philosophy, and that there is a sub field of philosophy called philosophy of science which is about, among other things, the study of the foundations and methods of science, including scrutiny of the scientific method and what makes it work.
But you could have said that. You made me supply the answer.
I still want to know what you meant.

I am not sure. It made me think. I think I learned from Hinduism that there are 108 crafts.
They are parts of the one God. That means they speak scientifically not one word against each other.
I think philosophy is a later invention. As we call Satan who never seem tolieve God, another word for original, never seem to believe God's holiness and therefor

I'm still not sure what you mean.
Unless you mean that science as we know it today was once called natural philosophy, and that there is a sub field of philosophy called philosophy of science which is about, among other things, the study of the foundations and methods of science, including scrutiny of the scientific method and what makes it work.
But you could have said that. You made me supply the answer.
I still want to know what you meant.

Do you think a philosopher is an Atheist?
In Hinduïsm I learned there are 108 crafts, but they speak not against each other. In philosophy they use advert aries to proof points. It is a method to make thing clear and teach you to think. Thinking is what most people can not do and not do. Most people after-talk and do not even know what they say even students do that otherwise you have no questions but all the answers and can become a teacher.

 

[Aupmanyav]

I think I learned from Hinduism that there are 108 crafts.
They are parts of the one God. That means they speak scientifically not one word against each other.

Do you think a philosopher is an Atheist?

Hinduism does not teach anything like that. I am an atheist Hindu, I do not even accept the possibility of any God or Goddess to exist. I do not bend my belief for the convenience of theists. However, I also do not reject the right of others to believe in Gods and Goddesses.
Not necessarily. Only that those who believe in Gods should provide evidence for their belief, otherwise it is not philosophy but only a propagation of falsehood.

 

[spiritualbee]

Hinduism does not teach anything like that. I am an atheist Hindu, I do not even accept the possibility of any God or Goddess to exist. I do not bend my belief for the convenience of theists. However, I also do not reject the right of others to believe in Gods and Goddesses.
Not necessarily. Only that those who believe in Gods should provide evidence for their belief, otherwise it is not philosophy but only a propagation of falsehood.

Hinduïsm knows the trinity.

 

[spiritualbee]

Hinduism does not teach anything like that. I am an atheist Hindu, I do not even accept the possibility of any God or Goddess to exist. I do not bend my belief for the convenience of theists. However, I also do not reject the right of others to believe in Gods and Goddesses.
Not necessarily. Only that those who believe in Gods should provide evidence for their belief, otherwise it is not philosophy but only a propagation of falsehood.

Science exist during Jesus Christ life time. He gave Hindus a astrologer key that he gave not to the synogoge.
Science we need to proof what a believer tells as true. Sciens support believers.
If a believer tell the truth who advocate on his or hers side.

All I see on the internet is that believers are bullied.

That is not what God wanted.
But India or Hindus complained that they the seeers can not inherit God's kingdom.
Why do we need believers?
I tell you. It is to test the seeers if they not abuse knowledge. God sees everything.
God works both ways, he is Jehovah Jahweh and Baal.

So both made mistakes as people on both sides but Jesus Christ was disappointed that those of the temples were even worse then those of the synogoge because those of the synogoge were blind but those of the temples were not and then being wrong is even worse.