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Faithfulservant

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I've seen it and I cannot be surprised that it's infiltrated the body of Christ. We are the bride and our bridegroom is coming soon to take us. I am overjoyed at this!

My sorrow is the false gospel that will lead people away from Jesus. A gospel denying the deity of Christ. I am sorrowful that many will be met by Jesus and He will tell them begone I never knew you. I could post my referenced scriptures but I feel that enough people know the most basic of John 3:16 and hopefully His sermon in Matthew 7 and perhaps even Paul's first etter to the Thessalonians and the second letter to the Corinthians.


In this age of confusion we are beset with labeling falsely. One can be a woman identifying as a man so I should be surprised that anyone can claim to be a Christian without professing the basic doctrinal beliefs? No. It's confusing though! I'm always looking for my people because they are my family and when I come across false teaching I'm always surprised and I admit.. angry. So I practice what is written in 1 John. I test the spirits and by God's grace and discernment I am aware that we are surrounded by the antichrist spirit and will move on.

Daily I am reminded that we live in a lost world surrounded by lost people doing lost things.

Jesus left the 99 to save the one! That is a precious reminder that His sheep know His voice and if they wander He will retrieve them!

Have a blessed day!
 
Why is it so important to you, that Jesus must be God?
What damage does it do to believe like the so-called Arians believed?
i.e. that the Son was created by the Father
It's important to me because that is a requirement for salvation. It's important to me because like my Father in heaven I don't want anyone to perish. Non believers get so butt hurt at people like me who are so adamant about this and fight tooth and nail to make sure that the truth is known because we LOVE! We love because the Father loved us first. We love because His Son loves us enough to come to us in a form lower than the angels.. He who created us.. and then chose to die for us. And He commanded that we share the good news so that His gift be received by ALL. I understand that we all have a choice in this life but knowing the love of God and His desire for a relationship with us makes it all worth it.
 
It's important to me because that is a requirement for salvation..
Well, Constantine didn't seem to think so.
He got baptised by an Arian priest shortly before he died.

Clearly, according to most Christians, Jews and Muslims cannot be saved.
Fortunately, G-d is the Best of All Judges. He knows who is sincere and who is not.
 
A joke I like.

A Hindu went to heaven and St Peter said, I will show you around. Over there is where all the Muslims are, and over there is where all the Sikhs are. St Peter said, as we walk past this wall, duck down and be very quiet.
Why? said the Hindu.
St Peter said, the Catholics are behind the wall, and they think they are the only ones up here.
 
Well, Constantine didn't seem to think so.
He got baptised by an Arian priest shortly before he died.

Clearly, according to most Christians, Jews and Muslims cannot be saved.
Fortunately, G-d is the Best of All Judges. He knows who is sincere and who is not.
That sounds like the "I'm a good person". The OT and NT clearly states that none are good. Our works are as filthy rags. My faith teaches that God gave the law to the Jews to show that it's impossible to do it on their own merit. What saved them was their faith. The yearly atonement for sins was a shadow of what the Lamb of God did on the cross. One sacrifice for all sin for all time for all who believed. It was prophesized all throughout the OT.

I don't know what this arian business is.. the only arian I know is Hitlers idea of the perfect race.. we see how God worked THAT out. Israel was returned to God's people as was promised. He is faithful and just to do all that He promises!
 
A joke I like.

A Hindu went to heaven and St Peter said, I will show you around. Over there is where all the Muslims are, and over there is where all the Sikhs are. St Peter said, as we walk past this wall, duck down and be very quiet.
Why? said the Hindu.
St Peter said, the Catholics are behind the wall, and they think they are the only ones up here.
A joke maybe.. but not very funny to me.. Sorry!
 
Right .. so the Jews are saved, despite them not believing in Jesus whatsoever .. is that it?
As a nation they will be saved. Individually they will have to believe. Every knee will bow and every tongue will confess that He is LORD. They missed His first visitation and did not recognize Him when He rode into Jerusalem on a donkey as was prophesized. They didn't accept Him even though John the Baptist announced Him as was prophesized as a voice crying out from the wilderness. They didn't accept Him even though His death was prophesized. They expected the messiah to be a military man come to deliver them from Rome.

To a Christian we have access to the throne of God through Jesus Christ. We are saved by His grace through our faith in Him. Without Jesus the law still stands. It's impossible to follow the law as our very thought life pollutes us.

There is a final reconciliation with Israel and my prayers are with them as it will be very hard in these end of days.

The 70th week Daniel prophesized is almost here.
 
As a nation they will be saved. Individually they will have to believe.
I'm confused .. you said that Israel was returned to "God's people".
That implies that one can be "God's people" without believing in Jesus.

..but on the other hand, you say that it is impossible to be saved without believing Jesus is God.
 
Right .. so the Jews are saved, despite them not believing in Jesus whatsoever .. is that it?

But they will when the Lord comes to fight against those nations that surround Jerusalem, when the city will have been taken, the houses looted and the women raped, as spoken of in Zechariah. Then they will look at the one whom they pieced, and they will mourn for him like those who mourn for an only child. They will mourn bitterly, like those who have lost their firstborn son
 
I'm confused .. you said that Israel was returned to "God's people".
That implies that one can be "God's people" without believing in Jesus.

..but on the other hand, you say that it is impossible to be saved without believing Jesus is God.
God's covenant promise to the descendants of Abraham will stand forever as God cannot lie or break a promise. He will be their God and they will be His people. Prior to Jesus they were saved by their faith in YHWH. Post Jesus they are saved by Faith in the Lord Jesus Christ. The hardness of the Jewish heart opened the inheritance up to the gentiles. We were adopted because we believed. It's another prophesy fulfilled because Abraham obeyed God and through his descendants all the nations of the world would be blessed.

May I ask if you are Jewish?
 
The hardness of the Jewish heart opened the inheritance up to the gentiles.
No. There were many "Jewish Christians", but the Jews were driven out of Jerusalem.
Christianity evolved over a few centuries.

You say you haven't even heard of so-called Arians, but there were many Christian Emperors who were Arians,
but eventually Trintarian Emperors declared war on Arians, outlawing any other creed but the offical Roman one.
..so much for love, and turning the other cheek.

May I ask if you are Jewish?
No .. I was raised as a Protestant, and embraced Islam.
 
The Jews being driven out of Jerusalem was prophetic just as their return was. The OT expands on this. It was God's chastening. A more biblical view on the church would be to read the letters to the 7 churches in Revelation. Much evil has been done in God's name that was not of God.
 
@Faithfulservant -

I was going to welcome you back to the forum, but sometimes real life has a way of interefering with participating on a forum. In the interim, and now having had a chance to read your posts on this thread and others, I have come to realize it would be disingenuous on my part to roll out the welcome mat.

I tend to steer clear of people who believe that Judaism is an outmoded, outdated, passe religion followed by spiritually ignorant, spiritually stupid, spiritually blind Jews. I predict we’re not going to be conversing much.

And before you ask - Yes, I am a Jew. Yes, I am a rabbi.
 
@Faithfulservant -

I was going to welcome you back to the forum, but sometimes real life has a way of interefering with participating on a forum. In the interim, and now having had a chance to read your posts on this thread and others, I have come to realize it would be disingenuous on my part to roll out the welcome mat.

I tend to steer clear of people who believe that Judaism is an outmoded, outdated, passe religion followed by spiritually ignorant, spiritually stupid, spiritually blind Jews. I predict we’re not going to be conversing much.

And before you ask - Yes, I am a Jew. Yes, I am a rabbi.
I'm sorry you feel that way. I have much love and respect for the Jewish people. I consider you my Father in the faith and I look forward to bridging the gap and what I can learn from you as you being more learned than I in scripture. We are blinded by our misconceptions. Don't shut the door on me so quickly.. my zealousness for my faith is something I admit and can be a fault. I am an open book!
 
Non believers get so butt hurt at people like me who are so adamant about this and fight tooth and nail to make sure that the truth is known because we LOVE!

Despite being a non-believer, I am sitting comfortably. So maybe your other generalizations and assumptions are due a service check as well?

Can't hurt to give our Code of Conduct (in the main forum list, hard to miss) a quick review. Hasn't changed since the iBrian's times, I believe.

The Arians (with a I not a Y) were one of several Christian denominations in antiquity. Wikipedia has a nice article on them.
 
Despite being a non-believer, I am sitting comfortably. So maybe your other generalizations and assumptions are due a service check as well?

Can't hurt to give our Code of Conduct (in the main forum list, hard to miss) a quick review. Hasn't changed since the iBrian's times, I believe.

The Arians (with a I not a Y) were one of several Christian denominations in antiquity. Wikipedia has a nice article on them.
I've reread the code of conduct and it hasn't really changed . How I present my faith hasn't really changed. Brian never had an issue with how I presented my faith. In the other forums apart from Christianity I phrase everything to be respectful of other faiths and speak from my own personal POV but this forum is my wheelhouse per se and I've always spoke from a place of knowledge of my Christian faith. If I have to I'll stick some extra IMOs or I believe etc .. but really? 😂 Am I really hurting anyone's feelings?

I thought it was interesting that in Matthew 24:10 Jesus said of the latter days "And then many will be offended, will betray one another, and will hate one another"

It gets tiring because everyone is soo offended by absolutely everything 🤣

As far as denominations the only ones that I know are the 7 churches and the apostolic church. Early church history is not my thing.. I have my hands full already with what God has laid before me. Lol
 
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