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Maybe bad links will not help us and you should at least check your link.sarahamdy said:
h|,Nitai said:some points about sex and spirituality
* main principle of pure path to develop love of god is to
* always think about God and never forget Him and
* to always please Him with all activities we perform
* it follows that:
* sex for procreating children that will be raised to develop love of God is pleasing to God
* sex for our own sense gratification will be the cause of forgetting the principle of doing everything for the pleasure of God
* it is the cause of materialistic life and increasing our thinking about other things than God and His service
* CONCLUSION: thus ones spiritual advancement becomes almost nil when indulging in sex for sense gratification.
* SOLUTION: one should sincerely endeavor to control the mind by fixing it on God;
* one should make endeavor to always use the senses in service of God
* RESULT: developing ones higher taste for spiritual activities one will not desire to unnecessarily indulge in sexual activity
* THE TEST: how much we develop attraction for pleasing God and how much we think about God instead of women is the barometer of our spiritual advancement
* as more we are thinking about God we certainly more love Him then sense gratification
* ULTIMATELLY one will be blessed to develop full and pure love of God
Hare Krishna.
salaam,munim_miah said:As far as im concerned, you are allowed to look at the wife's vagina but it is preferred that you dont because of modesty, it isnt totally forbidden
Where do u draw the line? what's 'unnecessary' sex in the framework of marriage where the sexual appetite of two people is involved?Nitai said:RESULT: developing ones higher taste for spiritual activities one will not desire to unnecessarily indulge in sexual activity
Yes it works.. sexual desire is natural and Allaah has ordained the satisfaction of this desire through marriage. God knows us better than we know ourselves. He is our Creator. We follow His commands cause we know that they will benefit us whether science and technology or our own reasoning capabilities advance to that point where we can agree with it. he never said to us regarding sexual activity what you are saying. Though in this regard (especially when we are not married), we are told to fast... and we do fast, from dawn till sunset each year for a full month as an obligation which Allaah has ordained for the muslims. we can do extra ones as well if we wish. I read that other post you wrote about abstaining from food helping in lower sexual desire... Islam agrees with you in this regard and this is what the Prophet(pbuh) told us to do. BUT note that sexual activity in islam is not only about one person's desire but also about the satisfaction of the spouse... this is not a selfish act. This is part of one's love for another person.** In Islam, sexual activity is a good thing as long as it is done with in it's prescribed framework.
-- Ok, but you have to see if the following of those rules result in developing your love for Allah. If not then something is wrong.
-- The idea is that one have to become gradually detached from this material world and become attached to God.
-- this is the test weather you developing love of God and spiritual taste for spiritual life.
-- these are simply universal principles for all
-- attachment / detachment. lust for material things or love for God
-- these two things go ill together.
You first as you came here to tell us about how to develop spirituality in some specific way which is in your mind.- Ok, what are the symptoms of a person with high levels of spirituality.
-- How does he speak, how does he behave, what are his desires, what are his activities. How does he overcomes and why the temptations of this material world.
Please try to remember that you are on an interfaith forum, comprising a massive cross-section of various different faiths. To claim to represent God's way above all other paths is not something that will sit will here.Nitai said:nothing I said was my way but God's way
salaam,nomanshake said:Well to me the basic points for one following Islam and having questions abt the right sex are:
7- You are not allowed to see your wife's vagina and to me it doesnt really provide any sexual attraction, so its better not to do the sin.
H|,Nitai said:Hare Krishna.
I have a small remark on your vision. If you like you can think about it.
YOU WROTE: To claim to represent God's way above all other paths is not something that will sit will here.
# Christians say: Jesus is the only way
# Muslims say: Mohamed is the last prophet, we should follow Him
# I say: My way is God's way
# but I don't say: My way or highway.
# anyway, the real question is, how to reconcile all the above statements, still accepting them to be truth.
## there are many different kind of people all over the world
## they all have particular mentality
## God takes care of them
## God gives spiritual guidance for all of them according to the people's mentality, capacity, and degree of faith
## all the ways God gives, through his messengers or Himself when He comes on this earth planet, have the same goal
## to ultimately attain purity, love of God and thus go back to the spiritual world, the abode of God
CONCLUSION:
* this would be the way of seeing the universality of all religions
* therefore, to appreciate every-ones - only way - one should see the unity in diversity as above described.
* God is kind to all; He gives guidance to all
* I appreciate the ways of all; don't worry about that
I mean this is just single point,you made it two points.I don't have prob reading points but reading points like this is annoying.Btw use 1,2,3..instead of # and quote other ppl msg by using quotation tags,Finally pardon me for excessive criticization,as i am only being honest with you.# whoever accepts material designations like Hindu, Muslim, christian etc will immediately be in duality of illusion
# that will result in fight, quarrell, etc.