Unification of all religions: The four heavenly items Chapter one (The basics)

[Aupmanyav]

.. but they all come from the same God, and all are servants to Him. This diversity among the children of men has unhappily not the same effect as it has among the vegetable creation, where the spirit shown is more harmonious.

I do not come from any God and I am not anyone's servant. Vegetation also is not harmonious.
Religions are root cause of conflicts. People come, claim to be sent by God without showing any evidence and start religions. And the may-hem starts.

"Parasitic shrubs are plants that derive some or all of their nutrients from other plants, often harming their hosts in the process. .. About 4,500 species of parasitic plants in approximately 20 families of flowering plants are known. .. There is a wide range of effects that may occur to a host plant due to the presence of a parasitic plant. Often there is a pattern of stunted growth in hosts especially in hemi-parasitic cases, but may also result in higher mortality rates in host plant species following introduction of larger parasitic plant populations."

Poor acacia invaded by cuscuta, Parasitic plant - Wikipedia

 

[Tony Bristow-Stagg]

I do not come from any God and I am not anyone's servant. Vegetation also is not harmonious.
Religions are root cause of conflicts. People come, claim to be sent by God without showing any evidence and start religions. And the may-hem starts.

"Parasitic shrubs are plants that derive some or all of their nutrients from other plants, often harming their hosts in the process. .. About 4,500 species of parasitic plants in approximately 20 families of flowering plants are known. .. There is a wide range of effects that may occur to a host plant due to the presence of a parasitic plant. Often there is a pattern of stunted growth in hosts especially in hemi-parasitic cases, but may also result in higher mortality rates in host plant species following introduction of larger parasitic plant populations."

Poor acacia invaded by cuscuta, Parasitic plant - Wikipedia

The athiest/material mindset can be seen as a parasitic mindset that feeds off the hosts mind/spirit.

In fact it is a great metephor, thank you for the material to enable that metephor.

Regards Tony

 

[TheLightWithin]

So, did I get the point?

No.
The reason people think it is racist is because it is making generalizations.
You are literally saying that one's race determines one's talent.
It's not reality, and it makes too many assumptions which hard core racists will grab onto.

 

[TheLightWithin]

Again, if they truly think that physical talent is as important as the psychological talent as the spiritual talent. Then the three races’ talents are in an equal state.

The three (??) races don't have distinctly different talents.
That's where your problem is.
Making assumptions based on race alone is the problem.
I know you like your theory, but it is both incorrect and problematic.

 

[TheLightWithin]

Good on you, do not worry about the comments about racism, as you are just explaining an obvious observation about the races.

Well, I"m not so sure about the obvious observations about the races.
What do you mean by that?

 

[TheLightWithin]

it is plainly obvious that there are physical differences between the traditional peoples of Europe, Southeast Asia, and the continent of Africa, with potentially many subdivisions in between. This is simply an observation. It may also be worth bearing in mind that Europeans traditionally have significant amounts of Neanderthal DNA, Southeast Asians a mix of Denisovan and a smaller amount of Neanderthal, and people from Africa have neither.

Differences in physical appearance, yes.
Broad sweeping statements that different races have different talents is not accurate and is problematic.

 

[TheLightWithin]

The athiest/material mindset can be seen as a parasitic mindset that feeds off the hosts mind/spirit.

Unusual theory...makes me curious... can you explain?
(I'm not an atheist, but I have never felt that atheists or their ideas have done anything harmful or taken anything away from me, so I do not intuitively understand your theory)

 

[Aupmanyav]

The athiest/material mindset can be seen as a parasitic mindset that feeds off the hosts mind/spirit.

What else can an atheist do when theists believe in unproven unscientific things?

 

[Aupmanyav]

How about this?
I simply assume it this way, three colored races are equally talented in physical strength and power. Nobody is talented in any other areas.

We are mixed ever since the time of Neanderthals and Denisovans.

 

[TheLightWithin]

The athiest/material mindset can be seen as a parasitic mindset that feeds off the hosts mind/spirit.

What else can an atheist do when theists believe in unproven unscientific things?

I still don't understand.

 

[Tony Bristow-Stagg]

Unusual theory...makes me curious... can you explain?
(I'm not an atheist, but I have never felt that atheists or their ideas have done anything harmful or taken anything away from me, so I do not intuitively understand your theory)

The true life is that of the spirit. The athiest mindset negates its very existence.

Everything that is possible comes from the Spirit, thus all the good that is possible, is taken from that spirit, and with a parasitic existence, if you kill the host, you kill that which is sustained by it.

Regards Tony

 

[Tony Bristow-Stagg]

Well, I"m not so sure about the obvious observations about the races.
What do you mean by that?

You can make such observations without any capacity or intent of racism. The quote by Abdul'baha was an example.

How boring a garden would be with only the same colours visible, God has given us the variety humanity and evolution has seen humanity progress through our ethnicity.

We can own the diversity, open and honestly as one human race.

Regards Tony

 

[rocala]

The athiest/material mindset can be seen as a parasitic mindset that feeds off the hosts mind/spirit.

Well that is certainly not my view.
Atheism relies on a principle of "I can neither see it or feel it". The religious view seems to require rather more imagination and intuition and has resulted in vast amounts of deities, myths, moral codes, cosmologies and customs. Much of it contradictory at best, nonsense at worst.

I find the works of religious thinkers to often be deeply inspiring and the thoughts of atheists to be an essential counterbalance. In short, we need both.

 

[Tony Bristow-Stagg]

I find the works of religious thinkers to often be deeply inspiring and the thoughts of atheists to be an essential counterbalance. In short, we need both

I see both have a capacity of greatness, as we are both human, made in God's image, full of potential.

The metephor does reflect what we find as advice in religious scriptures, that the Spirit is life and turning away from it is death.

Also we are warned not to feel any superiority in faith, as it is a gift that is given and can just as easily be taken and no one knows their end in this life.

Regards Tony

 

[Aupmanyav]

The true life is that of the spirit. The athiest mindset negates its very existence.

Spirit: Alcohol. Why would an atheist believe in non-existent things?

.. as we are both human, made in God's image, full of potential.

At one time Apes used to say that.

 

[TheLightWithin]

At one time Apes used to say that.

Did they?
If only we had records...
I think you're making a point, but imagine if someone took that literally

 

[TheLightWithin]

The athiest mindset negates its very existence.

Well... there are people who are atheist or at least non theist who are spiritually inclined, like some forms of Buddhism if I am not mistaken.

 

[rocala]

Well... there are people who are atheist or at least non theist who are spiritually inclined, like some forms of Buddhism if I am not mistaken.

Very true. We also have our own resident Hindu atheist, Aupmanav. Some followers of modern Druidry are atheist too.

 

[Tony Bristow-Stagg]

Well... there are people who are atheist or at least non theist who are spiritually inclined, like some forms of Buddhism if I am not mistaken.

That is the parasitic part of the Athiest (Godless) mindset. Clinging to and using the sustenance provided by the Host.

It is actually a very good metephor.

Regards Tony

 

[Aupmanyav]

That is the parasitic part of the Athiest (Godless) mindset. Clinging to and using the sustenance provided by the Host.

More than that can be said about religious evangelists in various forums. At least, the atheist do not spread superstition and untruth.