lunamoth
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I think it was Moses who built the other ark.
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didymus said:You mean Noah??Couldn't resist. Wait a minute did Abraham build an ark too?
truthseeker said:But you know, right now we sound like the people that ridiculed Abraham when he was building the ark.![]()
So is the Watchtower and Bible Tract Society an organization of bible scholars? I'm asking because, well, since The New World Translation is different from mine I'm interested in knowing where the information comes from. Everytime new information comes up, is the Bible updated?
8"To the angel of the church in Smyrna write:
These are the words of him who is the First and the Last, who died and came to life again. 9I know your afflictions and your poverty-yet you are rich! I know the slander of those who say they are Jews and are not, but are a synagogue of Satan. 10Do not be afraid of what you are about to suffer. I tell you, the devil will put some of you in prison to test you, and you will suffer persecution for ten days. Be faithful, even to the point of death, and I will give you the crown of life.
8I know your deeds. See, I have placed before you an open door that no one can shut. I know that you have little strength, yet you have kept my word and have not denied my name. 9I will make those who are of the synagogue of Satan, who claim to be Jews though they are not, but are liars–I will make them come and fall down at your feet and acknowledge that I have loved you. 10Since you have kept my command to endure patiently, I will also keep you from the hour of trial that is going to come upon the whole world to test those who live on the earth.
Faithfulservant said:hehehe that was just famous ... Truth you watching the game too?![]()
mee said:All three parallel prophecies—Daniel 7:25, 12:7, and Revelation 11:3—found fulfillment in the 3 1/2 years, or 42 months, from December 1914 to June 1918.
regarding rev 6;1-17, since 1914 ,the lamb(jesus christ) progressively reveals a composite vision of events due to happen in the lords day,the lords day has been here since 1914. the four horseman ride forth.
That would negate the caution that Jesus gave the faithful to be ready. He stated no one knew the day, hour or minute of the return of the Lord, but the Father. He stated, "Behold I come like a thief in the night". (para) That would also imply that the Holy Spirit has already departed from the Earth. It also means by your reconning that tribulations has past and we are now in the 1000 years of peace on Earth...mee said:All three parallel prophecies—Daniel 7:25, 12:7, and Revelation 11:3—found fulfillment in the 3 1/2 years, or 42 months, from December 1914 to June 1918.
regarding rev 6;1-17, since 1914 ,the lamb(jesus christ) progressively reveals a composite vision of events due to happen in the lords day,the lords day has been here since 1914. the four horseman ride forth.
Maybe you should be a bit more selective about your cut and pastes in your zeal to proclaim Jehovah's Kingdom. Though I can appreciate your focus on the Revelation, I don't appreciate your evangelism of a sect that is not tolerant. The last sentence of the quote stated above tells me that you believe that your organization are the only ones in God's favor.mee said:...In May 1918 Christendom's clergy instigated the imprisonment of officials of the Watch Tower Society, but nine months later these were released. ...From 1919 the organization of God's people, tried and refined, moved zealously forward to proclaim Jehovah's Kingdom by Christ Jesus as the hope for mankind. -Malachai 3:1-3
As Jesus began his inspection in 1918, the clergy of Christendom no doubt received an adverse judgement. Not only had they raised up persecution against God's people but they had also incurred heavy bloodguilt by supporting the contending nations during the first world war. (Revelation 18:21,24) Those clergymen then placed their hope in the man-made League of Nations. Along with the entire world empire of false religion, Christendom had fallen completely from God's favor by 1919
The final judgement on this system of things including the rulers. goverments ,religion , is yet to come, no one knows the hour as jesus said .we are to keep awake to the signs jesus left in matthew 24 and 25 Jehovah God always warns his people before the destruction of the unrightous so that they can change their ways and be saved ,Quahom1 said:That would negate the caution that Jesus gave the faithful to be ready. He stated no one knew the day, hour or minute of the return of the Lord, but the Father. He stated, "Behold I come like a thief in the night". (para) That would also imply that the Holy Spirit has already departed from the Earth. It also means by your reconning that tribulations has past and we are now in the 1000 years of peace on Earth...
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No Mee. Jesus said He will come like a thief in the night. No warning. We are to be ready now, but we will have no warning as to His return until He is here. To imply otherwise is to ignore what Jesus said. As for warning...we already have been warned, about 2000 years ago, and everytime one reads the words of the Bible. The "signs" in Matthew are the beginning of birth pangs, but even then it is not yet time, as specifically stated by Jesus.mee said:The final judgement on this system of things including the rulers. goverments ,religion , is yet to come, no one knows the hour as jesus said .we are to keep awake to the signs jesus left in matthew 24 and 25 Jehovah God always warns his people before the destruction of the unrightous so that they can change their ways and be saved ,
For the Sovereign Lord Jehovah will not do a thing unless he has revealed his confidential matter to his servants the prophets(Amos 3;7)
that is why he warns his people to get out of false religion .( babylon the great )(rev 18;4)also ( rev 7;9 speaks of a great crowd who will be worshipping in the right way .babylon the great has no hold on true christians but its final destruction is yet to come
true christianty is not corrupt because it has not taken on babylonish teaching that is why we are told to get out of itQuahom1 said:No Mee. Jesus said He will come like a thief in the night. No warning. We are to be ready now, but we will have no warning as to His return until He is here. To imply otherwise is to ignore what Jesus said. As for warning...we already have been warned, about 2000 years ago, and everytime one reads the words of the Bible. The "signs" in Matthew are the beginning of birth pangs, but even then it is not yet time, as specifically stated by Jesus.
Jesus also said He hated religion. In fact the only religion Jesus cared for was the taking care of orphans and widows (which meant to religiously care for those unable to care for themselves...). So by your own statement, there is not one "religion" that is true today...not one.
If Christendom is corrupt, then all of Christianity is corrupt...Christendom afterall encompasses all Christians of every walk, even me, even you...unless you are implying you are not Christian, but something better...![]()
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mee said:true christianty is not corrupt because it has not taken on babylonish teaching that is why we are told to get out of it
thats correct,we were told to be no part of the world , but remember revelation is for our day and jesus said at rev 1;3 Happy is anyone observing the words of the prophecy of this scroll.so we have to get out of false religion then we will be happy because we are not part of babylon the great and will not go down with it(rev 18;21)Quahom1 said:We were told to be in this world but not of it a long time ago as well. Nothing new under the sun.
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(chuckle), We were told to be not of this world. There is a difference between that, and "be no part of" this world. Revelation is for every day since the moment it was penned to paper (papyrus, or scroll). We are told to be as wise a serpents, but as innocent as doves.mee said:thats correct,we were told to be no part of the world , but remember revelation is for our day and jesus said at rev 1;3 Happy is anyone observing the words of the prophecy of this scroll.so we have to get out of false religion then we will be happy because we are not part of babylon the great and will not go down with it(rev 18;21)