Christ's Kingdom?

[mee]

"did i say that we were not sinning"

you clearly made a distinction in mans sin with your 1914 date.

yes i said that since 1914, we have been living (in the last days)of man ruling himself independant of God ,right back in Eden we made the choice to rule our selves independent of God ,by not listening to his instructions but making our own decisions and since 1914 it was the time of the end for man to do that

 

[BlaznFattyz]

yes i said that since 1914, we have been living (in the last days)of man ruling himself independant of God ,right back in Eden we made the choice to rule our selves independent of God ,by not listening to his instructions but making our own decisions and since 1914 it was the time of the end for man to do that

but dont you think that americas higher ground reasons to go to war contradict what you are saying about ruling ourselves and being independent from god? we have gone to war to stop dictatorships and military powers that would make the world unsafe with little or no freedom, because we believe in protecting god given rights.

 

[mee]

but dont you think that americas higher ground reasons to go to war contradict what you are saying about ruling ourselves and being independent from god? we have gone to war to stop dictatorships and military powers that would make the world unsafe with little or no freedom, because we believe in protecting god given rights.

which just goes to show that man was not created to rule himself independent of God ,look at the mess man makes with the political devisions that do not mix even thou some goverments are trying their best to rule in the right way it was not Gods purpose for man to rule himself
I well know, O Jehovah, that to earthling man his way does not belong. It does not belong to man who is walking even to direct his step jeremiah 10;23 only Gods kingdom Goverment will succeed in the right way Daniel 2;44

 

[BlaznFattyz]

but we have to, god gives authority to who he wishes. we have to make the best of it. of course it wont be perfect, but we should try to be godly in our attempts.

instead of using 1914 since jw have a bad record of picking dates, and the world has been destroyed already for being evil before that date, why not pick the day adam and eve sinned, surely that decision has killed more people than any war. death comes to us all because of their sin, which is more than ww1's deathtoll.

 

[mee]

but we have to, god gives authority to who he wishes. we have to make the best of it. of course it wont be perfect, but we should try to be godly in our attempts.

instead of using 1914 since jw have a bad record of picking dates, and the world has been destroyed already for being evil before that date, why not pick the day adam and eve sinned, surely that decision has killed more people than any war. death comes to us all because of their sin, which is more than ww1's deathtoll.

yes God does give authority to who he wants to, thats why in 1914; Jesus was crowned king of Gods heavenly kingdom, Jehovah God has allowed man to rule himself to prove that man cannot rule himself independent of God , and i think the facts speak for themselves . and yes ,we have had to make the best of a bad thing. but when only Gods way of ruling is going on all over the world what a difference that will be
And in the days of those kings the God of heaven will set up a kingdom that will never be brought to ruin. And the kingdom itself will not be passed on to any other people. It will crush and put an end to all these kingdoms, and it itself will stand to times indefinite ...daniel 2;44

For there has been a child born to us, there has been a son given to us; and the princely rule will come to be upon his shoulder. And his name will be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Eternal Father, Prince of Peace. To the abundance of the princely rule and to peace there will be no end, upon the throne of David and upon his kingdom in order to establish it firmly and to sustain it by means of justice and by means of righteousness, from now on and to time indefinite. The very zeal of Jehovah of armies will do this...isaiah 9;6-7

(Daniel 7:14) And to him (Jesus)there were given rulership and dignity and kingdom, that the peoples, national groups and languages should all serve even him. His rulership is an indefinitely lasting rulership that will not pass away, and his kingdom one that will not be brought to ruin..........yes we have had enough of manmade rulership bring on the only way to peace

Let your kingdom come. Let your will take place, as in heaven, also upon earth...matthew 6;10

 

[BlaznFattyz]

yes God does give authority to who he wants to, thats why in 1914; Jesus was crowned king of Gods heavenly kingdom...

i still dont see any biblical scripture for jw's 1914 claim, maybe there isnt? its hard for man not have an explanation for something i guess.

what i think is that jesus was born king of kings and lord of lords.
"and asked, "Where is the one who has been born king of the Jews? We saw his star in the east and have come to worship him."

and when he died for our sins and resurrected and was transformed and crowned with glory and honor, just waiting for god to tell him when he can come back.

"But we see Jesus, who was made a little lower than the angels, now crowned with glory and honor because he suffered death, so that by the grace of God he might taste death for everyone."

i think both those things refer to christs kingdom and him being king before 1914 based on those scriptures.

 

[mee]

i still dont see any biblical scripture for jw's 1914 claim, maybe there isnt? its hard for man not have an explanation for something i guess.

what i think is that jesus was born king of kings and lord of lords.
"and asked, "Where is the one who has been born king of the Jews? We saw his star in the east and have come to worship him."

and when he died for our sins and resurrected and was transformed and crowned with glory and honor, just waiting for god to tell him when he can come back.

"But we see Jesus, who was made a little lower than the angels, now crowned with glory and honor because he suffered death, so that by the grace of God he might taste death for everyone."

i think both those things refer to christs kingdom and him being king before 1914 based on those scriptures.

there is lots of biblical scripture, are you a bible student who is aware of the mystery that is being solved in these last days
And he went on to say: "Go, Daniel, because the words are made secret and sealed up until the time of [the] end....daniel 12;9 are you aware of the ending of the appointed times of the nations ,

Jesus spoke of a time during which the leaders of the world would occupy center stage without interference from God’s Kingdom. Jesus called that period "the appointed times of the nations....luke 21;24