Muslimwoman
Coexistence insha'Allah
Keep being a shiny sparkley representative of your god and you have nothing to be shamed by.
You always put a smile on my face and make me feel stronger...... thank you.
Keep being a shiny sparkley representative of your god and you have nothing to be shamed by.
You always put a smile on my face and make me feel stronger...... thank you.
Why is the first argument always valid but the second one ignored. The Palestinians danced in the streets after 9/11. That speaks volumes about who practices blind hatred while demanding tolerance and understanding of their own beliefs.
Unfortunately, there was dancing in the streets of my home town of Dearborn, Michigan USA as well. And these are supposed to be American citizens, who swore an oath to uphold the Constitution of the United States, to defend our nation against all enemies, foreign and domestic, who told me point blank that they can lie to the infidel, if it serves the purpose of furthering Islam and the manifest destiny.and yet there were mass demonstrations AGAINST 9/11 in Tehran and a number of other Muslim coubtries ... so who practices blind hatred now?
Should we not understand that perhaps the Palestinians were simply reacting to the USA, Israels staunchest ally, receiving some of the medicine it's financial and arms support doles out so regularly to Palestine? Doesn't this make it a political and not religious issue?
Is it Islam that does this? Or is it Islam in the hands of certain people with a predisposed penchant for chaos? If you can answer that, I am all ears.
When Bush persued his totally unjustified and catastrophic invasion of Iraq, our peace group in Bath loudly and vehemently opposed it and our country's involvement in it. Bur we were at great pains to show that we were not anti-American, only anti-Bush. Many visiting Americans signed our petition.Certain Muslims do bad things, but that's not Islam, because it's not how a particular reading of the Qu'ran goes. Therefore, one should not be angry at Islam for the bad things that Muslims do.
Certain Americans do bad things, but that's not America, because it's not how a particular reading of the US Constitution goes. Therefore, one should not be angry at the USA for the bad things that Americans do.
Why is the first argument always valid but the second one ignored. The Palestinians danced in the streets after 9/11. That speaks volumes about who practices blind hatred while demanding tolerance and understanding of their own beliefs.
But they still tie a large part of their self-identity to those countries. It is like Irish-Americans getting all hot and bothered about Ireland although they'd never been there and had little clue about what was going on. It is painful to Arab-Americans (and I imagine to Arab-Britons etc. but I don't know them) that their home countries are widely despised, and I can see how it is precisely the fact that they have "wealthy lives" that can give some of them the feeling that they have an especial obligation to do something, "on behalf of" (or so they are thinking) those with less power and opportunity for action.In some cases no doubt yes Bob but that doesn't explain the young people who now live "wealthy lives" in the West or oil producing countries feeling tied to or wanting the right to return to their homeland.
I think we have seen how easily these young people can be radicalised and yet they are not poor or living in economically poor countries.
I'm not doubting your story, but I've lived in some pretty bombed-out-looking neighborhoods without ever seeing or hearing about anything remotely like "a boy of ten in rags and no shoes with a handgun stuffed into his trousers"; that is hardly "normal life" here, and I doubt that it was forty years ago, either, although of course poverty was more extreme back then.I don't know if Americans are blind to what passes for normal life in their country. Perhaps it takes a foreigner to see it. I visited in 1973 and talked to a boy of ten in rags and no shoes with a handgun stuffed into his trousers. A hundred yards away beyond the rail track the no-go area started. I don't need to go on.
Yeah, I used to have a photo of him. This was in the quiet prosperous little town of York Pa. I don't think many of the local whites had seen what I saw because they never went near that part of town. This is what happens, it's like The Portrait of Dorian Gray. I won't go on. I liked the people I met. They were friendly and generous, but look under the rug and it's a different story.I'm not doubting your story, but I've lived in some pretty bombed-out-looking neighborhoods without ever seeing or hearing about anything remotely like "a boy of ten in rags and no shoes with a handgun stuffed into his trousers"; that is hardly "normal life" here, and I doubt that it was forty years ago, either, although of course poverty was more extreme back then.
Yes there are terrible things going on all over the world, but perhaps Americans might like to put their own house in order before criticising others. BTW a lot of this applies equally to my own country too.
Then why are you criticizing Americans? Hypocrisy is such a popular hobby.
Sorry I'm going to have to come back on that. As I said earlier, I'm NOT criticising any American people. I'm not even criticising really. I'm just relating a couple of things I've seen in my life.Then why are you criticizing Americans? Hypocrisy is such a popular hobby.
Then why are you criticizing Americans? Hypocrisy is such a popular hobby.
But some countries are bigger on it than others, hence attract comment.![]()