wil said:
And yes, in rereading it it appears I stepped over the line of that forum...So we may continue if you wish...you tossed out three places I was abusive...only one I believe will be judged as so. And on none of them was it my comments that caused someone to request the thread be relocated.
I apologize to all for feeling I need to defend false accusations.
oh Wil, you are correct & i am VERY sorry for that. but my point was not making an accusation, rather why those threads were moved. someone tried to tell me one time that it was the spit & mud that made blind eyes see & deaf ears hear & the lame to walk, instead of Jesus himself & the authority that backed him.
i thought you were saying something like that. so again that was my error.
i am going to try this one more time if you dont mind answering. i have a very difficult time with this. i was not saying they were moved because of you, rather indicating the topic itself was not teachings of Jesus or biblical.
i think the only way i can talk to you is by asking questions. it is very hard for me to understand you.
1) so you tell me, why were those threads moved?
2)according to your belief, after the trial of Jesus & the brutality he recieved for showing nothing but love & after they pierced his side & his blood had been drained, what things happened next according to your belief?
do you think they buried Jesus like he taught? do you think Jesus rose from the dead in victory like he said he would?
3) if Jesus is our wayshower, where is Jesus leading you in your final destination?
4)
and I also recall a discussion of Lazurus' rising and drugs that were being utilized to cause the three day coma...but we can't discuss this here.
Lazarus was sick & died & in there 4 days & he was DEAD. he was not in a coma. he died, had been buried, was wrapped & he stunk of dead flesh. Jesus did not use any drugs to raise him nor was there any mention of Lazarus taking drugs or being in a coma.
are we in agreement here on what happened??
but you are also correct. i thought you had said we CAN discuss that here. & after looking you said CANT...so again i am REAL sorry.
but again, here it is again...saying that thread AND the other should be Christian when it is coming from an Islam belief. & this is why you do not make sense to me.
Just because my view of the scope of what a follower of Jesus could be differs from yours, does not make mine a personal attack....Now of course if I were in the Catholic Forum or the Baptist Forum...I would have to agree... And while I feel that this discussion as the other that inhumility started could rightly be in the christian forum, it really doesn't matter. You've booted them both out....to belief and spirituality...where now my beliefs be they christian or pagan or scientific are now within the realm.
I am saying that the 2.1 billion people who make up christianity won't agree on many tenents, rituals, beliefs of their denomination v. mine or yours...the path is much wider...that is what I said...truth is their are many chrisitans in those 2.1 billion that don't believe in the virgin birth, original sin, trinity, diety of Jesus, resurection....but they count themselves as christian because they believe the value of what Jesus spoke....whether any of these are true or not...
so if you want to answer my sincere honest questions i would appreciate that. if you dont want to, i understand as well. thank you