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lunamoth said:"The Protestants emphasized such concepts as salvation by "faith alone" (not faith and good works or infused righteousness), "Scripture alone" (the Bible as the sole rule of faith, rather than the Bible plus Tradition), "the priesthood of all believers" (eschewing the special authority and power of the Roman Catholic sacramental priesthood), that all people are individually responsible for their status before God such that talk of mediation through any but Christ alone is unbiblical. Because they saw these teachings as stemming from the Bible, they encouraged publication of the Bible in the common language and universal education."
(Religious Influences for the Reformation, on wiki)
The above seem like quite a lot of changes to adapt to personal feelings and opinion, yet we decided to keep the name Christianity.![]()
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hey Luna, why do you try to attach protestant & all christian beliefs to catholicsim? as if they came out of some mother church. you know i do not think that is correct. most of these demoninations & their thoughts today can be traced back to the first two centuries under a different title including gnosticism, (i do not feel like putting up the list) that is before Rome started to kill everyone that did not agree with Nicene Only & tell people there babies burn in hell if they are not baptized & add them to the roster. if you are not baptized catholic & say Hail Mary for your sins then you go to hell. the above seems like an awful lot of unbiblical changes to keep the title Christianity.
now that is real Christian tradition.
there are so many traditions that they do not even exist in the bible from Jesus...so i wonder who conjured all that up. so if you are trying to claim you are first & everyone else is second to you, that is not right. that view alone kills.
the gnostics were actually first because the whole thought pattern existed before Jesus came. & the jews were before that.
so when you speak of reform, there really was no reform at all. rather freedom from the catholics for ALL religions to come back to what there was originally - namely Jesus & the Apostles & many sects that existed long before 1600...
sometimes i feel like you harbor ill towards those who still REALLY REALLY REALLY REALLY believe in the bible for all guidance.
you can have the title because i dont really want it. Gnostics have always posted here so they can have the title too & who cares? it is an interfaith board.
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