nimesh0775 said:
Yes, i agree mostly, in the sense that Jesus wanted us to love God the way he did.
But, we should do so in a humble state of mind. We should never think ourselves so great that we can be on the same level of Jesus' devotion, but to always stay a servant of the servant of God.
What is most pleasing to Jesus is when we sincerely try and practically apply the principles he enunciates in our personal lives - i.e. serve other devotees of God, just as a family is supposed to co-operate to serve the father.
Agreed,
up until the point where you say that we cannot be on the same level of Jesus' devotion.
Nor is the emphasis on
serving a servant necessary. The result is
unneeded separation from our Heavenly Father. Christ did
not preach this.
Consider, nimesh, that humily is
not the same as servility. To confuse these two, is to be in error. As I say, I agree with what you started out to say - but not with where you end up. Christ gives us the insight we need in saying, "
The Son of Man comes not to be served, by to serve." Further, I think that what is
actually most pleasing to Jesus, is not quite what you suggest ... although this type of cooperation is
an absolute prerequisite for what I'm about to say: Not simply that
fellow devotees might serve one another, but that
all of God's children might be ministered to -
THIS is most pleasing to Christ. For remember:
"I say unto you which hear, Love your enemies, do good to them which hate you, Bless them that curse you, and pray for them which despitefully use you. Give to every man that asketh of thee; and of him that taketh away thy goods ask them not again. And as ye would that men should do to you, do ye also to them likewise. For if ye love them which love you, what thank have ye? for sinners also love those that love them. And if ye do good to them which do good to you, what thank have ye? for sinners also do even the same. And if ye lend to them of whom ye hope to receive, what thank have ye? for sinners also lend to sinners, to receive as much again. But love ye your enemies, and do good, and lend, hoping for nothing again; and your reward shall be great, and ye shall be the children of the Highest: for he is kind unto the unthankful and to the evil. " (Luke 6:28-32)[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]
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I would humbly refer any Christian,
or Biblical scholar, who has overlooked this last passage, emphasized in
BLUE, to consider or reconsider - that the Lord our God is a LOVING God. Christ has asked us here to do something very difficult, yes, but not impossible. Otherwise, he would not have asked it. I would also refer anyone with Buddhist connections to enquire about, or revisit, the Perfection of the Paramitas. For this is precisely what is being asked of us. And again, it is not easy.
But to say, "we cannot do these perfect things as did Christ Jesus" is to miss the point entirely. Yes, we CAN do them. Christians may approach this from a different angle as Buddhists, or with a different set of assumptions as Hindus, but the reality is the same. Jesus taught his disciples how to cast out spirits (`elementals' in the most oft-cited Biblical passage), and how to heal the sick (where physical infirmity is rarely the actual source of ill, thus he taught them of the CAUSE of illness, and the much more challenging task of treating this cause, and not just the symptoms).
He taught them not simply how to repeat blindly and mechanistically something chanted, or words uttered - he taught them science!!! What he taught them is a
Sacred Science, so termed because it ALWAYS dealt with underlying causes, and not with surface appearances. And yes, having FAITH that the Sacred Science will "work" is indeed important. It is important in the same way that having FAITH in gravity is important if you see a large rock falling out of the sky - headed swiftly for your head! Let me ask you - are you going to fall to your knees and
pray god that you are "delivered?" Or are you going to MOVE???
Sacred Science (call it by any name you will) is not different than
physics in that it has to do with Cause and Effect. Jesus did not simply teach his disciples TO pray, he taught them
how, and he taught them
WHY it is effective. He explained things to them. And yes, sometimes their questioning must have driven him nuts! So he did not always answer them in quite they way they might have wished. Sometimes, he answered their question with another question, or gave them a koan - and
always the end result was that they learned much, much more that way than if he had simply given a snappy comeback.
nimesh0775 said:
Like Jesus, but we will never be able to emulate him.
Again, I think this goes against
everything that Christ Himself taught.
Of course we will be able to emulate him. Just remember to forgive yourself when,
even after a lifetime, you are still -
not yet perfect. He didn't say it was always easy.
nimesh0775 said:
He is unique dear servant of God,
Careful how high we build this pedestal. Jesus asked neither for worship, nor for vain and idle flatteries. He DID ask, however, that we
emulate Him.
nimesh0775 said:
That doesn't mean we will be able to heal the sick etc, but we will be able to bring people love for God - but not just by our effort (although effort is necessary it is insufficient) - but also by mercy of God and Jesus, by God and Jesus empowering us we can truly do the highest welfare by giving people love of God and reviving their eternal spiritual nature.
There are any number of fellow Masters of the Wisdom (or
Lords of Compassion, as was Master Jesus), in addition to their trained Disciples (many of them High Initiates) who can and do, heal as did Christ Jesus,
every single day. To witness this directly should be evidence enough ... though certainly, not for one who really doesn't want to believe, for to such a person,
not Christ Himself could convince him otherwise (as has already been pointed out).
Namaskar,
taijasi
