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mee
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the watchtower is only a magazine , i havent met any one yet who claims that a magazine is the Almighty LOL....... or that a date is the Almighty. but if we stick to the bible it tells us who the Almighty is in PSALM 83;18
That people may know that you, whose name is Jehovah,
You alone are the Most High over all the earth. and what does that name Jehovah mean ? it means .....he causes to become.......... for those who are aware of bible prophecy and chronology , the bible reveals many things to those who are faithful to the true God matthew 24;45-47 yes its all happening in the days we are living in, thrilling times indeedbupanishad2007
Andrew
But, didn't St. Paul say that " . . .they have a zeal for God, but not according to knowledge. . . ."? Was Paul teaching for knowledge or against it? He was an educated Pharisee himself who studied under the great Judaic Teacher Gamaliel, and frequently "tooted his own horn" about his equality with the other Apostles. Did he have a "superior attitude"?
Dor
Bible Thumper
tooted his own horn??
[FONT=Arial, Geneva, Helvetica]1 corinthians15:9[/FONT][FONT=Arial, Geneva, Helvetica]For I am the least of the apostles, that am not meet to be called an apostle, because I persecuted the church of God.[/FONT]
No attitude didnt Paul talk about becoming all things to the people he taught.
1 Corinthians 9:19 For though I be free from all men, yet have I made myself servant unto all, that I might gain the more. 20 And unto the Jews I became as a Jew, that I might gain the Jews; to them that are under the law, as under the law, that I might gain them that are under the law; 21 To them that are without law, as without law, (being not without law to God, but under the law to Christ,) that I might gain them that are without law. 22 To the weak became I as weak, that I might gain the weak: I am made all things to all men, that I might by all means save some. 23 And this I do for the gospel's sake, that I might be partaker thereof with you.
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What do you mean by cults?
Like the moonies? some Satanic cult? KKK?? or what? cause I am sure those "type" of cults couldn't care less what jesus said.......
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cyberpi
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Loving God, loving Jesus, and loving others on Earth are not necessarily exclusionary are they? Loving with the MIND or loving with the heart and soul are not necessarily exclusionary either, correct?
I find that the Trinity: Godhead of Father, Son, Holy Spirit, or the predecessor anti-Trinitarian, pre-Tertullian concept that Jesus is God, both eliminate and explain away someone to Love. I see that they alter some rather key verses which would protray God or Jesus as a liar. Who has been explained away by viewing Jesus and God separately? Who has been explained away by viewing Jesus and God as one and the same? It is the latter that has explained someone away.
When I hear of an illiterate that LOVED God, immediately Muhammud (pbuh) comes to mind. Dor, it seems to me you have taken an educated and gifted man who explained many things away, over an illiterate man who also loved God.
Dor
Bible Thumper
Thats right Muhammud denys Christ divinity so I do not put much stock in him.
Same as I put little stock in JW, Mormans and any of the other Christian groups that deny Jesus.
Same as I put little stock in JW, Mormans and any of the other Christian groups that deny Jesus.
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Silas
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"Do not answer a fool according to his folly, Or you will also be like him." - Proverb 26:4
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cyberpi
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Matthew 5:22 ... But whosoever shall say, Thou fool shall be in danger of hell fire.
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Silas
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*Answer a fool according to his folly, lest he be wise in his own eyes. - Proverb 26:5*
Understanding scripture in context will lead to knowledge. But, "fools dispise wisdom." (Proverb 1:7)
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cyberpi
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Luke 11:40 You foolish people! Did not the ONE who made the outside make the inside also?
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Silas
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Matthew 5:22 ... But whosoever shall say, Thou fool shall be in danger of hell fire.
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cyberpi
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That one is between you and Jesus. I was not calling you a fool... it is up to you whether to claim that title.
Searching for 'divinity' in the bible I find a couple of interesting verses:
Acts 17:29 Therefore since we are God's offspring, we should not think that the divine being is like gold or silver or stone - an image made by man's design and skill.
2 Corinthians 10:4 The weapons we fight with are not the weapons of the world. On the contrary, they have divine power to demolish strongholds.
Both remind me of Trinity, a man made theory and the first thermonuclear warhead, neither of which do I consider necessarily divine. But I agree with both verses.
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mee
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i am glad to say that JW stick to bible teaching, and are waving their symbolic palm branches to welcome the rightful king who is ....Jesus christ..... revelation 7;9-10
(Acts 4:12) Furthermore, there is no salvation in anyone else, for there is not another name under heaven that has been given among men by which we must get saved."
Dor
Bible Thumper
Arius taught that only God the Father was eternal and too pure and infinite to appear on the earth. Therefore, God produced Christ the Son out of nothing as the first and greatest creation. The Son is then the one who created the universe. Though Christ was a creation, because of his great position and authority, he was to be worshipped and even looked upon as God.
He was exiled in 325 after his teaching was condemned as heresy. Just because someone follows the oldest heresy known does not make it truth at all Mee.
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cyberpi
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Bump:
I am still asking you to remove that plank from my eye so that I can see why you believe that Jesus is God. Dor, FS, Silas... what traits or attributes are you calling divine, divinity or deity?
I am still asking you to remove that plank from my eye so that I can see why you believe that Jesus is God. Dor, FS, Silas... what traits or attributes are you calling divine, divinity or deity?