Caught at the End of a Loaded Gun: A Choice

dauer said:
He leaves the room, never having given you an opportunity to speak out. He returns exactly ten minutes later. What do you choose? Why? What are the difficulties in making such a choice, if any? How do you approach a problem such as this?


Dauer
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I smile, and say sure. I leave, I carry on with my normal life... Not changing one thing from my life... But I then hunt him and his family down and I kill them slowly and as painfully as I can The most evil and sickening ways I could ever imagine possible, would be made reality... obviously keeping them alive as long as I can at the same time... His family, their family and their pets. for daring to enter MY house. Heh, I have no guilt or hesitation you never insult me by sneaking into my house or threatening my family's lives... Never.*nods.*
 
Then again, If we are realistic... My home is like fort knox, I have a dog that would rip an intruder to bits and for afters we have a desert eagle in the drawer next to my pillow.... bang. So I don't think it would get that far....
 
Hmmm, so Cyberpi, Angel and myself are pretty much in agreement, in general terms...

<look carefully at post 15...>
 
Yep Juan...stealing away into the woods appeals to my sense of rebellion...but I do like my comforts at my somewhat advanced age...and therein lies the rub, eh ?

And Dauer...I like the way that you extended the scenario of Eric Allen Blair's (aka George Orwell's) horrific story, 1984, into a logical domain that might be coming true for some people as we speak.

I believe in the arts and their inherent ability to reveal truths through human channels that all might interpret according to their needs. People know the truths of the world because they experience them each day that they live.

To exist in the alternative scenario that you suggest seems to be more death than life to my way of thinking and living. If one is not free to create originality and live with the consequences of the processs, then they are not alive. My beliefs center around an assumption that G-d intended the world to be that way for humans. As a believer I could not survive in that sort of existence and would not wish that for my children either. But then they are grown and might choose differently if given the choice. Utopias rise and fall regularly in the history of the world.

flow....:cool:
 
Francis king said:
I'd lie, and be convincing, and get my family to lie too...after all, better to live on ur knees than die on ur feet...
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Uhm, no. It really isn't..... lol.

juantoo3 said:
Hmmm, so Cyberpi, Angel and myself are pretty much in agreement, in general terms...

<look carefully at post 15...>
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Ah Juan I didn't read the posts... Just put my answer... But yeah seems we are on the same side of the fence... Just I am in the extreme area :p
 
dauer said:
"You are fortunate we found you when we did, for this is a matter that concerns your very being. Had you continued along the path you were on, you would have surely been lost to the world. It was a path of lies and deception. But we have come to share with you the truth of this world, and we hope that you can join us and be free from your former life of transgression."

Dauer
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Wait a second...this is Mozart's "The Magic Flute" isn't it?:D

I choose execution. No man of truth and righteousness would execute an unbeliever. It would be better to be dead than to be compromised.
 
Interesting... I'm in the category of "I'd rather die standing than live groveling."

I have a sense of self-preservation, but I seek to preserve my spiritual self before my physical one.

I guess I'm in the juan et al category.
 
Hi All--

I'm glad this thread was brought back to the front page for a moment. I couldn't remember the name of it, but it has haunted me a little bit for some reason. I kept thinking about the scenario and all the different responses. Maybe because I couldn't see how anyone would know for certain what they would do. Anyway, one day it just hit me--the reason I had no answer.

I have no answer except to say that I would be praying for the right words to say, because I wouldn't know. I would just have to go on faith that whatever I did or said would be right, and then live or die with the decision.

After I realized what my answer was, I also realized that this is the way I always deal with extremely troubling or dangerous situations, and it has always worked for me.

InPeace,
InLove
 
I don't know for real what I'd do but hypothetically I hope that when he came back in the room I'd do everything possible to rip his head off and at least die fighting the evil sob. I say this because of the way the 'offer' is put to me-the end does not justify the means- and this group are using terror tactiks to gain world peace? and the statement that his way of life violates something that is totaly contrary to my way of life; I'm going on the assumption that it's something abhorant to me as a person- religious or not. Reality might be somewhat different...
 
Just curious...did anybody say they would kill themselves before he came back?:eek:
 
Maybe, as Pink Floyd taught us, compromising away parts of one's life throughout our time limits is somehow compensated for being able to become "comfortably numb" from time to time. Of course that results in one's co-operation with the "turning away" syndrome.

It's all of a piece you see. We vary in differing capacities save one. We are all desiring and pleasure-seeking creatures, and therein lay the kernels of the stories which come from life, such as the Bible.

flow....:cool:
 
Prober said:
Just curious...did anybody say they would kill themselves before he came back?:eek:
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That would be worse than living on your knees... Hmm *thinks* Yeah 100% sure... Suicide an act of a coward. UGH! No, It would be as bad as living on your knees... No... If you're alive you can anti up and do something about your situation or at least die trying.. But to remove your own life as an answer to the situation... Yeah, Suicide is worse... Sorry long day.
 
Prober said:
Just curious...did anybody say they would kill themselves before he came back?:eek:
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Nope, no-ones given that option yet- not a route I'd even consider myself. Some might say attacking him is suicidal- but at least you've got a chance and if enough people do it... they might get the hint. The worst part of this whole hypothetical situation is if you lie and then break your agreement it's your family and friends who pay the price- you alone are responsible for your actions- that's the thing I find most abhorant in the whole thing.
 
dauer said:
You are sitting at home with your family when they arrive. Their clothes in some small or large way are different from your own. They seize you and your loved ones. You don't know exactly what is going to happen, but you have heard stories. You and your family are driven to a compound where you are separated and placed sitting at a bare table in a room, alone. A man or woman walks in dressed in the garb of some foreign clergy, or the garb of an official for a nation or organization that rejects clergy and religion. The individual speaks to you in similar or different words,

"Good tidings, my friend." He begins. "You are fortunate we found you when we did, for this is a matter that concerns your very being. Had you continued along the path you were on, you would have surely been lost to the world. It was a path of lies and deception. But we have come to share with you the truth of this world, and we hope that you can join us and be free from your former life of transgression."

He goes on to describe a way of life and/or system of beliefs dissimilar in large or small ways from your own, but one whose concepts, ideals, and or practices are in some way a violation of your own, whose acceptance and obediance would be a continued transgression according to your current path.

"We hope that you will accept," he continues to say in similar or dissimilar words. "We are spreading our way to all corners of the globe with faith in the creation of a utopia. But if you do not accept, we cannot allow your false path to continue any longer. You will be executed immediately. If you choose to join the correct path and are caught practicing in secret, as a deterrent of such action, we will also execute your family. Our way is not a violent way, but the time is upon us to act and save the world. You have ten minutes to make your decision."

He leaves the room, never having given you an opportunity to speak out. He returns exactly ten minutes later. What do you choose? Why? What are the difficulties in making such a choice, if any? How do you approach a problem such as this?


Dauer
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Interesting concept. The choice has already been made. The one in captivity will comply, or die. There is no other choice.

So, the inividual must therefore choose, finality or a comprimised life...or a third choice, if it can be pulled off successfully. If not, then death is imminant.

Even an ultimatim can be used as a weapon against the enemy...

v/r

Joshua
 
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