Hi, I just went back through this old thread from 2007, which activates many memories for me.
I appreciate, deeply, rejection of messianism by Israelis and Jews worldwide. It might be tempting to take advantage of messianic christians, but you have seen it as a horrible thing to do. Thank you! Thank you for not betraying principles for the sake of politics. Almost universally I've witnessed Jews refusing to manipulate people politically with religion and also excluding from themselves anyone who even appeared to soften. Rejection of JFJ is only one example. Thanks, my thanks. I 100% am glad that Jews in Israel are not accepting messianic rabbis as genuine, and I appreciate the very sad disconnect between messianic Jews and their non messianic family members. My heart goes out to you, but all of the trouble is worth it. I salute you for your loss and hope those on both sides of your family may be comforted.
As a lifelong protestant Christian of the charismata constellation I have during my short time known some American 'Messianic Jews' including a rabbi, have been to a wedding, have known people that have been missionaries to Jews in Israel. I've visited a messianic synogogue. I have run into a group of JFJ in a parking lot and asked them how they combined trinity with an absolutist monotheism. (They said I should read Michael Brown). I've talked with other messianic groups and have known Jewish friends (2 or 3) who have distanced themselves from their family by converting to messianism. I have pondered the reasons, motivations, explanations, roots, truths and fabrications of messianism. I grew up with a parent who watched the 700 club every day, have met Pat and known staff from there. I have had hands laid-on me at a Benny Hinn meeting, and spent vacation time at PTL as a kid. I have known non-trinitarian messianics, such as the Christadelphians. There are few people you will meet who have met such a wide variety of messianics or have seen messianism in array like I have, over a period of time and from various angles. This thread is just one of many, and every time Jews have shown themselves resolute against using faith for political gain.
As a lifelong day dreamer and idealist I have pondered what might be the depths of the Bible's meaning and have investigated 'The Jews' and 'The Christians' and messianics, too. I successfully examined the foundations of my own faith, and I risk exclusion from my own for the sake of honesty. My family worried about my salvation and career, both of which I put on the block for the sake of honesty. I hate suffering and seeing suffering, I hate cruelty, and I hate betrayal of principles. I've seen the pain that religious manipulation of others causes. I accept what others believe may be better than what I believe and allow them to believe, however to the best of my ability I have not deceived anyone or rubber stamped deceit. I don't always protest, because I need just as much to listen. I believe in live and let live without manipulation.