The Trinity of Christianity

[soma]

From Unity comes Duality, God created everything so everything came from God and since there is only one God then there is unity in God. From Duality comes Trinity, living in duality we want to know God and his unity, but can't express it so we have the Trinity as a symbol to try to understand what is beyond the mind. From Trinity comes Infinity, we can't understand God, the infinite but we can come closer to God and infinity with the help of the Trinity. As Christians we see God revealing the blessings through His Son and through the Holy Spirit, through whom God made the world, through whom God revealed Himself in the Old Testament, through whom God enlightens and makes alive every man in the world .The Son comes as a man in the person of Jesus Christ. The Spirit comes to individuals to to guide them to the beyond.

If God is always and everywhere then God the Father, is one, unity , the Son of God who comes as Jesus, and the Holy Spirit come to us in our dualistic minds to show us unity beyond the mind. The Orthodox Church says that these three are not three competitive gods, divided, and separated from each other, but one God. They are acting in the perfectly absolute unity of the divine truth and love. Thus the Three are one not only because what they are is one and the same, but because their divine union allows of no separation or duality or division whatsoever.

The Trinity is a symbol on the level of words, which are always inadequate to reality. They can't express experience of God in the Church. The doctrine of the Trinity is the product of man in duality living in communion (unity) with the Father, which is one through the Son and the Holy Spirit, which guide us to the Father. I change the vocabulary from stict Christian text to try to explain it rationally in modern terms in my mind which is in duality.

 

[Quahom1]

From Unity comes Duality, God created everything so everything came from God and since there is only one God then there is unity in God. From Duality comes Trinity, living in duality we want to know God and his unity, but can't express it so we have the Trinity as a symbol to try to understand what is beyond the mind. From Trinity comes Infinity, we can't understand God, the infinite but we can come closer to God and infinity with the help of the Trinity. As Christians we see God revealing the blessings through His Son and through the Holy Spirit, through whom God made the world, through whom God revealed Himself in the Old Testament, through whom God enlightens and makes alive every man in the world .The Son comes as a man in the person of Jesus Christ. The Spirit comes to individuals to to guide them to the beyond.

If God is always and everywhere then God the Father, is one, unity , the Son of God who comes as Jesus, and the Holy Spirit come to us in our dualistic minds to show us unity beyond the mind. The Orthodox Church says that these three are not three competitive gods, divided, and separated from each other, but one God. They are acting in the perfectly absolute unity of the divine truth and love. Thus the Three are one not only because what they are is one and the same, but because their divine union allows of no separation or duality or division whatsoever.

The Trinity is a symbol on the level of words, which are always inadequate to reality. They can't express experience of God in the Church. The doctrine of the Trinity is the product of man in duality living in communion (unity) with the Father, which is one through the Son and the Holy Spirit, which guide us to the Father. I change the vocabulary from stict Christian text to try to explain it rationally in modern terms in my mind which is in duality.

Last time I checked, from One comes One. Trinity is One or 3/3 which equals One. Simple math actually. I find it ironic that those that don't believe find it extremely important to try and convince those that do believe that they are so damn wrong (goes both ways by the bye). For those that believe, no explaination is required. For those that refuse to believe, no explaination is possible...

We have gone over this so many times. Yet again another understands better than we about our own faith...so be it. Have fun.

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Q

yes, I am a little miffed, so please excuse my sarcasm, it is in general, not personally focussed.

 

[soma]

We are expanding on the Trinity to expand our minds not make converts or unbelievers. I like to reduce everything to one, but I have 10 fingers in this world of duality so it is a little more difficult to reduce them to one finger, but one body works.

 

[Quahom1]

We are expanding on the Trinity to expand our minds not make converts or unbelievers. I like to reduce everything to one, but I have 10 fingers in this world of duality so it is a little more difficult to reduce them to one finger, but one body works.

Ah but you do have one "set" of fingers, and one "set" of toes, and one "set" of limbs...

So, the argument can be made that there is one "set" of God (consisting of three personages...

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Q

well it made sense to me as I was writing it...

 

[wil]

well it made sense to me as I was writing it...

Glad you said that becuase the whole 3/3 thing meant each was one third something which seems to me they are all of something, an eachness of the allness...

 

[Quahom1]

Glad you said that becuase the whole 3/3 thing meant each was one third something which seems to me they are all of something, an eachness of the allness...

You know...I understood that (don't ask me how or why), but it made sense.

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Q

 

[Dor]

For those that believe, no explaination is required. For those that refuse to believe, no explaination is possible...

Thanks Q! To often belief and faith is not enough anymore seems most people want proof now.

 

[seattlegal]

For those that believe, no explaination is required. For those that refuse to believe, no explaination is possible...

Thanks Q! To often belief and faith is not enough anymore seems most people want proof now.

This is one of the miracles of love: It gives a power of seeing through its own enchantments and yet not being disenchanted.
C. S. Lewis

 

[Thomas]

Thank you Q - and Seattlegirl - I have to admit I have become disenchanted with CR of late.

I wanted to say to Soma - I reread some of your posts and wanted to correct what appears to be a somewhat overbearing response (my failing, it would appear):

I also think the Christian symbol of the Trinity is used to bring us above reason to a nonlinear experience.

There is something quite profound in this, and my own expression of non-linear is in continuum, and in the spirit of friendship I offer my own thoughts ...

"Into thy hands I commend my spirit"

... the doctrine of the Trinity is the Revelation that offers an answer the dilemma of the world and the tragedy of the human condition - and of individual being - it unites Absolute Transcendence and Absolute Immanence without sacrificing either - it allows both succession (time/space) and simultaneity (being) - in a world that is in each moment fallen, and yet recovered, not just individually, but collectively ... it is the only doctrine I know that accounts for the real Union of spirit and matter - of the longing for God, in human history, and of His unfolding, in a Salvation History that must necesarily embrace all people collectively and not just individually (what man would see himself saved and his neighbour lost?).

What the Spirit will unfold before us in time and space, is already here in us because we are in Him.

"Into thy hands I commend my spirit"

In Him we live and move and have our being ... God sees us all, uniquely and individually as manifesting his Glory, a Glory that is ours when we are hid in Him...

"Into thy hands I commend my spirit"

The great mystery of the Cross is that when Jesus ascended, and showed Himself to the Father, He still bore the wounds of the cross, as every iconic image of Christian art testifies.

In the offering up of his humanity upon the cross ("why hast thou forsaken me?" Matt 27:46, Mark 15:34 & Psalms 22:1) to the Father ("into thy hands I commend my spirit" Luke 23:46) is a total act of faith.

In the Father's acceptance of the Son to His throne is the Father's acceptance of a fallen humanity which, in His infinity Mercy, is made One in the Eternal Moment of His Being, as St Paul saw with such awesome clarity "In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.(1 Corinthians 15:52)

This change is made in us in our baptism, when the Fathers says of his each and every creation, "This is my beloved Son (or Daughter)..." as is told in the Synoptics ... a being willed in the Father, formed in the Son and Revealed in the Holy Spirit ... not so much an unfolding but an enfolding...

"Into thy hands I commend my spirit"

... and made known to us also, in the fullness of time.

I spoke of the Icons of Christ showing his Wounds to the Father ... to us in the Icons he shows his Heart, a Revelation his very Being and the limitlessness of his Love ("He who has seen me has seen the Father" John 14:9) ... and by His example asks nothing less, that we open our hearts, reveal ourselves, in faith, in hope and in love, to Him.

"Into thy hands I commend my spirit" -
would that we could say it,
and mean it,
and hold to it,
with every fibre of our being.

Alone in Him there is nought other, 'not me nor Thee' as Eckhart might have said, yet, as St Paul tells us "then shall I know even as also I am known." (1 Corinthians 13:12) - for man is not effaced in God, but made one with Him, in the Unity of the Holy Spirit...

Mystery of Mysteries!

Listen to St Peter:
"Knowing that shortly I must put off [this] my tabernacle, even as our Lord Jesus Christ hath shewed me. Moreover I will endeavour that ye may be able after my decease to have these things always in remembrance. For we have not followed cunningly devised fables, when we made known unto you the power and coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, but were eyewitnesses of his majesty. For he received from God the Father honour and glory, when there came such a voice to him from the excellent glory, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased. And this voice which came from heaven we heard, when we were with him in the holy mount. We have also a more sure word of prophecy; whereunto ye do well that ye take heed, as unto a light that shineth in a dark place, until the day dawn, and the day star arise in your hearts: Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation. For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake [as they were] moved by the Holy Ghost."
2 Peter 1:14-21

Thomas

 

[kenod]

While I acknowledge that God is beyond reasoning, I do not believe that He is contrary to reasoning. To accept the Trinity explanation, it seems you have to sacrifice rational thought, which comes from God. The most simple explanation is often the most accurate. God is one, and He reveals Himself in three different ways. It seems such a sensible concept to me and yet I am repeatedly labelled a heretic ... glad I didn't live a few hundred years ago ... can't stand the heat!
Ken

 

[mee]

Where did this complex Trinity teaching originate? The Christian Century, in its May 20-27, 1998, issue, quotes a pastor who acknowledges that the Trinity is "a teaching of the church rather than a teaching of Jesus." Even though the Trinity is not a teaching of Jesus, is it consistent with what he taught?

 

[BlaznFattyz]

actually it is the teaching of the holy spirit. although one can deduce it from scripture, it is reaffirmed by the spirit of god, and how he has revealed himself. the church does the work of the spirit, therefore it teaches the true nature of god and does the work of christ, for the glory of god. before christ was born, many had already known of him through the spirit.

 

[kenod]

Even though the Trinity is not a teaching of Jesus, is it consistent with what he taught?

Not when you understand Jesus was both human and divine. Where it sounds like he is speaking of another, separate from Himself, he is speaking in his human capacity - as when he was praying in Gethsemane.

The disciples and early Jewish Christians had no concept of a Trinity. They understood the language of Jesus within the bounds of One God.

It is only through inferential reasoning that one can derive the doctrine of the Trinity from the NT. It is not taught explicitly at all. It evolved gradually over 100's of years, so it is difficult to dismiss the idea that the "trinity" was not influenced by the prevailing culture of multiple gods.

 

[mee]

Not when you understand Jesus was both human and divine. Where it sounds like he is speaking of another, separate from Himself, he is speaking in his human capacity - as when he was praying in Gethsemane.

The disciples and early Jewish Christians had no concept of a Trinity. They understood the language of Jesus within the bounds of One God.

It is only through inferential reasoning that one can derive the doctrine of the Trinity from the NT. It is not taught explicitly at all. It evolved gradually over 100's of years, so it is difficult to dismiss the idea that the "trinity" was not influenced by the prevailing culture of multiple gods.

yes i agree , it stems from beliefs about many gods , so i can see that the bible does not teach the trinity, and neither did Jesus.

 

[Quahom1]

The "Trinity" is quite Biblical. It has been shown and explained and shown and explained over and over again. I will (for the cheap seats), point out the one pivatol, and physically specific spot wherein all three of the Trinity were present "in front of man". After Jesus emerged from the Jordan river's waters and baptism. There was Jesus, there was the voice of God the Father from above, and there was the Holy Spirit. All were present to the witnesses "at the same exact moment in time".

Explain away those descriptions of the event...you can't.

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Q

 

[Quahom1]

Here is one set more for the "cheap seats": But I doubt you'll read them all, (or any of them), because they go directly against your doctrine, and history shows you refuse to consider things that might contradict your own "belief" (lol), none the less it is biblical scripture at face value, not interpretation. (Part One)

Colour Coding:
Red = Father; Blue = Son; Green = Holy Spirit

1. 
   [*]Isaiah 48:16 "And now the Lord Godhas sent Me, and His Spirit." (verses 12-13 actually identify the speaker in v16 "ME" as being the creator YHWH. Jesus what actually was sent, is called the creator in the New Testament: Jn 1:3; Col 1:16; Heb 1:10-12. The natural reading of Isa 48:16, is that the sender is the Father. The Jews simply had no way to explain how both the sender and the one sent (ME) could both be YHWH. This is a good example of doctrinal development between the Old and New Testament. Christians can easily make sense of the passage! So Isa 48:16 has YHWH sending another who is also YHWH. Of course Trinitarians know that all three members of the Godhead are called "YHWH". Anti-Trinitarians, can do no better than the Jews in explaining how the send and the one sent are both called YHWH in Isa 48:16! Combined with Isa 61:1, it is clear that the ME is Jesus!)
   [*]Isaiah 61:1: "The Spirit of the Lord God is uponme, Because the Lord (YHWH) has anointedme To bring good news to the afflicted; He has sent me to bind up the brokenhearted, To proclaim liberty to captives And freedom to prisoners; " (This is a certified triadic passage because Jesus applied the text to Himself in Luke 4:18-30)
   [*]Isaiah 63:8-10: "For He said, "Surely, they are My people, Sons who will not deal falsely."So He became their Savior. In all their affliction He was afflicted, And the angel of His presence [lit: face] saved them; In His love and in His mercy He redeemed them, And He lifted them and carried them all the days of old.But they rebelled And grieved His Holy Spirit" (The angel of His face is YHWH himself not a created angel: Ex 23:14-15, 20-23; 14:19; Num 20:16; Ex 33:12. Trinitarians expect to find this kind of passage in the Old Testament, that would not be fully understood until the mystery was revealed about the Trinity in the New Testament.)
   [*]Matthew 3:13-17; Luke 3:21-22: After being baptized, Jesus came up immediately from the water;and behold, the heavens were opened, and he saw the Spirit of God descending as a dove and lighting on Him, and behold, a voice out of the heavens said, "This is My beloved Son, in whom I am well-pleased."
   [*]Matthew 28:19: "baptizing them in the name of the Fatherand the Sonand the Holy Spirit"
   [*]Luke 1:35: "The Holy Spirit will come upon you, and the power of the Most High will overshadow you; and for that reason the holy Child shall be called the Son of God. "
   [*]Luke 4:1-12: "Jesus, full of the Holy Spirit, returned from the Jordan and was led around by the Spirit in the wilderness for forty days, … Jesus answered him, "It is written , ‘You shall worship the Lord your God and serve Him only."
   [*]John 14:16: "I will askthe Father , and He will give youanother Helper , that He may be with you forever"
   [*]John 20:21-22: "So Jesus said to them again, " Peace be with you; as the Father has sent Me, I also send you." And when He had said this, He breathed on them and said to them, "Receive the Holy Spirit ."
   [*]Acts 1:7-8: "He said to them, "It is not for you to know times or epochswhich the Father has fixed by His own authority ; but you will receive power when the Holy Spirit has come upon you
   [*]Acts 2:33: "Therefore having been exalted to the right hand of God, and having received from the Fatherthe promise of the Holy Spirit, He has poured forththis which you both see and hear. "
   [*]Acts 2:38-39: "Repent, and each of you be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins; and you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit. "For the promise is for you and your children and for all who are far off, as many as the Lord our God will call to Himself."
   [*]Acts 5:30-32: "The God of our fathersraised up Jesus, whom you had put to death by hanging Him on a cross... "And we are witnesses of these things; and so is the Holy Spirit, whom God has given to those who obey Him."
   [*]Acts 7:55: "But being full of the Holy Spirit, he gazed intently into heaven and saw the glory of God, and Jesus standing at the right hand of God"
2. "So the church throughout all Judea and Galilee and Samaria enjoyed peace, being built up; and going on in the fear of the Lord and in the comfort of the Holy Spirit, it continued to increase." (Acts 9:31)
   [*]Acts 10:38: "You know of Jesus of Nazareth, how God anointed Himwith the Holy Spirit and with power"
   [*]Acts 10:44-48: "While Peter was still speaking these words, the Holy Spirit fell upon all those who were listening to the message … and exalting God … And he ordered them to be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ.
   [*]Acts 11:15-17: "the Holy Spirit fell upon them … Therefore God gave to them the same gift as He gave to us also afterbelieving in the Lord Jesus Christ?"
   [*]Acts 15:8-11: "And God, who knows the heart, testified to themgiving them the Holy Spirit … we believe that we are saved through the grace of the Lord Jesus"
   [*]Acts 20:27-28: "For I did not shrink from declaring to you the whole purpose of God. "Be on guard … for all the flock, among which the Holy Spirit has made you overseers, to shepherd the church of God which He purchased with His own blood. "
   [*]Acts 28:25-31: "The Holy Spirit rightly spoke through Isaiah the prophet to your fathers … this salvation of God has been sent to the Gentiles … preaching the kingdom of God andteaching concerning the Lord Jesus Christ"
   [*]Romans 1:1-4: "Paul, a bond-servant of Christ Jesus, called as an apostle, set apart for the gospel of God, which He promised beforehand through His prophets in the holy Scriptures, concerning His Son, … who was declared the Son of God with power by the resurrection from the dead, according to the Spirit of holiness, Jesus Christ our Lord, "
   [*]Romans 5:5-6: "the love of God has been poured out within our heartsthrough the Holy Spirit who was given to us. For while we were still helpless, at the right time Christ died for the ungodly. "
   [*]Romans 8:2-4: "For the law of the Spirit of lifein Christ Jesus has set you free from the law of sin and of death. … God … sendingHis own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh … walk according to the flesh but according to the Spirit. "
   [*]Romans 8:9 "indeed the Spirit of God dwells in you. But if anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ, he does not belong to Him. "
   [*]Romans 8:14-17: "For all who are being led by the Spirit of God, these are sons of God. … you have received a spirit of adoption as sons by which we cry out, "Abba! Father!"The Spirit Himself testifies with our spirit that we are children of God, and if children, heirs also, heirs of Godand fellow heirs with Christ"
   [*]Romans 8:26-30: "In the same way the Spirit also helps our weakness … the Spirit Himself intercedes for us with groanings too deep for words… God causes all things to work together for good … predestined to become conformed to the image of His Son"
   [*]Romans 15:16: "to be a minister of Christ Jesus to the Gentiles, ministering as a priest the gospel of God, so that my offering of the Gentiles may become acceptable, sanctified by the Holy Spirit. "

 

[Quahom1]

This is part two (yes it is not encouraged to post so much cut and paste, but I rarely do it, and this is a belief of such paramount to the majority of Christianity, that I find this occasion to use one of my "bad boy, don't do it again" markers... As is quite obvious. The Trinity is often spoken of, often referred to and often quoted as viable. This by the way is for those that want to know, not those that could care less...

Colour Coding:
Red = Father; Blue = Son; Green = Holy Spirit
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1. 
   [*]1 Corinthians 2:2-5: "For I determined to know nothing among you except Jesus Christ, and Him crucified… in demonstration of the Spirit and of power, so that your faith would … rest on the power of God."
   [*]1 Corinthians 6:11: "inherit the kingdom of God. … you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christand in the Spirit of our God."
   [*]1 Corinthians 12:4-6: "Now there are varieties of gifts, but the same Spirit. And there are varieties of ministries, and the same Lord.There are varieties of effects, but the same God who works all things in all persons. "
   [*]1 Corinthians 12:11-12,18: "But one and the same Spirit works all these things, distributing to each one individually just as He wills. For even as the body is one and yet has many members, and all the members of the body, though they are many, are one body, so also is Christ. … But now God has placed the members, each one of them, in the body, just as He desired."
   [*]2 Corinthians 1:21-22: "Now He who establishes us with you in Christand anointed us is God, who also sealed us and gave us the Spirit in our hearts as a pledge. "
   [*]2 Corinthians 3:3-4: "written not with ink but with the Spirit of the living God … Such confidence we have through Christtoward God."
   [*]2 Corinthians 13:14 "The grace of the Lord Jesus Christ, and the love of God, and the fellowship of the Holy Spirit, be with you all."
   [*]Galatians 3:1-5: "Jesus Christ was publicly portrayed as crucified … does He who provides youwith the Spirit and works miracles among you"
   [*]Galatians 3:14: "The Scripture, foreseeing that God would justify the Gentiles by faith … in order that in Christ Jesus the blessing of Abraham might come to the Gentiles, so that we would receive the promise of the Spirit through faith."
   [*]Galatians 4:4-6: "God sent forthHis Son … God has sent forththe Spirit of His Son into our hearts, crying, "Abba! Father!"
   [*]Ephesians 1:3-13: "Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who has blessed us with every spiritual blessing in the heavenly places in Christ, " … "In Him we have redemption through His blood, the forgiveness of our trespasses, according to the riches of His grace " … "In Him, you also, after listening to the message of truth, the gospel of your salvation—having also believed, you were sealed in Him with the Holy Spirit of promise, "
   [*]Ephesians 2:18: "for through Him we both have our accessin one Spiritto the Father. "
   [*]Ephesians 2:19-22: "God’s household … Christ Jesus Himself being the corner stone … a holy temple in the Lord … dwelling of Godin the Spirit."
   [*]Ephesians 3:16-17: "that He would grant you, according to the riches of His glory, to be strengthened with power through His Spirit in the inner man, so that Christ may dwell in your hearts through faith"
   [*]Ephesians 4:4-6: "one Spirit …one Lord … one God and Father of all who is over all and through all and in all."
   [*]Ephesians 4:30-32: "Do not grieve the Holy Spirit of God, by whom you were sealed for the day of redemption … forgiving each other, just as Godin Christ also has forgiven you."
   [*]Ephesians 5:18-20: "be filled with the Spirit … singing and making melody with your heart to the Lord; always giving thanks for all things in the name of our Lord Jesus Christto God, even the Father"
   [*]1 Thessalonians 1:3-6: "hope in our Lord Jesus Christin the presence of our God and Father …in power and in the Holy Spirit and with full conviction … with the joy of the Holy Spirit"
   [*]2 Thessalonians 2:13-14: "always give thanks to God … beloved by the Lord … sanctification by the Spirit and faith in the truth …the glory of our Lord Jesus Christ. "
   [*]Titus 3:4-6: "the kindness of God our Savior and His love for mankind appeared, He saved us, … according to His mercy, by the washing of regeneration and renewing by the Holy Spirit, whom He poured out upon us richlythrough Jesus Christ our Savior"
   [*]Hebrews 2:3-4: "salvation first spoken through the Lord … God also testifying … gifts of the Holy Spirit"
   [*]Hebrews 9:14: "how much more will the blood of Christ, who through the eternal Spiritoffered Himself without blemish to God"
   [*]Hebrews 10:29-31: "trampled under foot the Son of God … has insulted the Spirit of grace … It is a terrifying thing to fall into the hands of the living God. "
   [*]1 Peter 1:2: "according to the foreknowledge of God the Father, by the sanctifying work of the Spirit, to obey Jesus Christ and be sprinkled with His blood"
   [*]1 Peter 3:18: "For Christ also died for sins once for all, the just for the unjust,so that He might bring us to God, having been put to death in the flesh, but made alive in the spirit; "
   [*]1 Peter 4:14: "If you are reviled for the name of Christ, you are blessed, because the Spirit of gloryand of God rests on you. "
   [*]1 John 3:23-24: "we believe in the name of His Son Jesus Christ …He abides in us, by the Spirit whom He has given us."
   [*]1 John 4:2: "By this you know the Spirit of God: every spirit that confesses that Jesus Christ has come in the fleshis from God"
   [*]1 John 4:13-14: "He has given us of His Spirit. We have seen and testify that the Father has sentthe Son to be the Savior of the world. "
   [*]Jude 20-21: "praying in the Holy Spirit, keep yourselves in the love of God, waiting anxiously for the mercy of our Lord Jesus Christ to eternal life. "

 

[kenod]

There was Jesus, there was the voice of God the Father from above, and there was the Holy Spirit. All were present to the witnesses "at the same exact moment in time". Explain away those descriptions of the event...you can't.
Q

Your understanding means you believe in three separate gods: one in heaven, one in the air, and one on the earth.

I have no desire to "explain away" the event ... but perhaps John can help you to understand it.

John 3:13
And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, even the Son of man which is in heaven.

Simply put, the one God is not only omnipotent, and omniscient, ... He is also omnipresent.

 

[Quahom1]

Your understanding means you believe in three separate gods: one in heaven, one in the air, and one on the earth.

I have no desire to "explain away" the event ... but perhaps John can help you to understand it.

John 3:13
And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, even the Son of man which is in heaven.

Simply put, the one God is not only omnipotent, and omniscient, ... He is also omnipresent.

Are we like, on the same page?, or are you telling me I am mistaken?

Oh, and welcome to CR ;-)

 

[Quahom1]

There is but ONE GOD, three manifestations. and a bunch of ways that man in his limited intelligence can express or identify or justify the concept.

I think that is pretty clear.