The Secret: A Cosmic Dream Machine

Luna,

You are right. I will try to couch my words in forms that are acceptable to people of all belief systems. The least we can do is be respectful of each other's belief systems. I will redouble my efforts.
 
Andrew,

I agree with Luna. It is not a matter of walking on eggshells. Although Theosophy is the "Truth" to me, it is not so for others, and all of us must respect other people's right to chose what is their truth for themselves.
 
My thoughts on "The Secret" are that it is a combination of the power of positive thinking and some kind of spin on prosperity gospel. The stuff about positive eneregy drawing in positive energy seems to me to be pseudo-science jargon, although it does reflect the spiritual effect of the Law of Love. Certainly when we project love we are more likely to have love reflected back to us, and certainly a 'can-do' attitude will get you materially further than a negative attitude.

However, I suspect that someone somewhere is simply making a buck off this latest round of gimicky spin on age-old wisdom, and that leaves a bad taste in my mouth. Further, it does not offer hope to people caught in the non-conventional reality that bad things happen to good people. That's where the Gospel of Jesus takes over, IMV.
 
Luna,

I did want to correct my answer to one of your questions. Theosophy sees humanity as three different evolutions occuring simultaneously.

1. Spiritual evolution
2. Intellectual evolution
3. Physical evolution

Spiritual evolution can be regarded as evolution of the "soul". This began countless years before the Earth was first inhabited, and will continue long after the Earth has disappeared. Intellectual evolution is a phenomenon unique to our existence on the Earth, and will stop when we leave the Earth. Physical evolution is similar to the Darwinian concept. (Curiously, Theosophy teaches all primates — apes, monkeys, etc. — descended from humanity, not the other way around.)
 
Luna,

I did want to correct my answer to one of your questions. Theosophy sees humanity as three different evolutions occuring simultaneously.

1. Spiritual evolution
2. Intellectual evolution
3. Physical evolution

Spiritual evolution can be regarded as evolution of the "soul". This began countless years before the Earth was first inhabited, and will continue long after the Earth has disappeared. Intellectual evolution is a phenomenon unique to our existence on the Earth, and will stop when we leave the Earth. Physical evolution is similar to the Darwinian concept. (Curiously, Theosophy teaches all primates — apes, monkeys, etc. — descended from humanity, not the other way around.)

Hi Nick, Thank you for the clarification.

With respect to our physical evolution, I would not teach that humans descended from apes, but that both descended from a primate ancestral species.

My own view (or one of my views) of the 'fall' is the evolutionary leap from animal-like innocence to distinctly human morality (self-consciousness, knowlege of good and evil). Another way to view 'sin' is as the baggage we inherit from evolutionary selection, the selfishness that is required for survival of the fittest.

Thus, overcoming 'nature' never had anything to do with dominion over the environment, but spiritual evolution getting us past our necessary selfishness (The Selfish Gene).

The Way back to the garden is through an unconditional love that gives and forgives freely and without judgement. Jesus was the perfect embodiment of that love, the Way and the Truth and the Life, both an exemplar and Savior through His perfect self-sacrifice.

A love so perfect it conquers death.
 
Luna,

It is interesting to think of man and apes as coming from a common ancestor. Theosophy, however, is adamant about apes being the descendents of man. As a matter of fact, Theosophy identifies the Nephilim of Genesis vi. 4 as being exactly these kinds of creatures.

In Theosophy, there is no idea of Original Sin as being a sin. (Theosophy never uses the word sin, it uses the word karma instead.) Chrisitianity sees us as a bunch of sinners who are all going to Hell if we do not change our ways. Theosophy, on the other hand, has an entirely different view of humanity — Theosophy sees man as basically good, not bad. Theosophy sees (what Christianity calls) the Fall as a good and necessary part of our Pilgrimage from (and ultimately) back to the Absolute. (As a matter of fact, the negativity of the Christian idea of the Fall is one of the first things that lead me away from Christianity. In the Theosophical version of the story, God did not banish humanity from the Garden, God encouraged humanity to leave the Garden as part of a positive leaning experience.)

In the Theosophical view, the way back to the Garden takes a little more than just love. It also takes

* a minimum level of spirituality
* the burning off of all bad karma
* a proven record of service to humanity
* the removal of attachment to all physical pleasures (otherwise the person will just wish to return to Earth, and the wish will be fulfilled).
 
Nick and Luna,

I'm with Nick on this, although - for the record - it should be rememberd that in HPB's Secret Doctrine there is reference to what is called the "sin of the mindless." But, lest this definite act of an early, unintelligent humanity be confused with anything like the Biblical doctrine ... it should be pointed out that this occurred long, long after Humanity had already begun its evolution on planet Earth.

Only a study of The Secret Doctrine will reveal insight into this episode in the history of our race. ONLY an understanding of the Seven Root Races, including some familiarly, historically, with the first five races that have evolved upon this planet ... according to the Theosophical teaching ... will clarify what transpired to leave us the current legacy.

This has everything to do with karma. It has everything to do with why we find ourselves in the current state of things, as regards sexuality ... and why certain problems with a sexual root continue to plague mankind.

Certainly, this ties in with the Creative Powers as referenced in the Biblical Genesis story ....


From Sacred Texts online (The Lost Lemuria):
The shameful acts of the mindless men at the first separation of the sexes have best be referred to in the words of the stanzas of the archaic Book of Dzyan. No commentary is needed.

"During the Third Race the boneless animals grew and changed, they became animals with bones, their chayas became solid.
"The animals separated first. They began to breed. The two-fold man separated also. He said, 'Let us as they; let us unite and make creatures.' They did.​
"And those that had no spark took huge she-animals unto them. They begat upon them dumb races. Dumb they were themselves. But their tongues untied. The tongues of their progeny remained still. Monsters they bred. A race of crooked red-hair-covered monsters going on all fours. A dumb race to keep the shame untold." (And an ancient commentary adds 'when the Third separated and fell into sin by breeding men-animals, these (the animals) became ferocious, and men and they mutually destructive. Till then, there was no sin, no life taken.').​
"Seeing which the Lhas who had not built men, wept, saying. 'The Amanasa [mindless] have defiled our future abodes. This is Karma. Let us dwell in the others. Let us teach them better lest worse should happen.' They did.​
"Then all men became endowed with Manas. They saw the sin of the mindless."​
The Third Race referred to here is the Lemurian, wherein a non-physical Humanity became physical, and wherein a single-sexed individual (Jod-Hevah, from which we get `Jehovah') became the divided sexes as we now know them.


Nick has mentioned before what chhayas refers to, but the following, from an Encyclopedic Theosophical Glossary will help:
Chhaya chaya (Sanskrit) A shade, shadow, copy; esoterically, the astral image or body of a person. Besides referring to the human astral form, the term is usually applied to the shadows or copies -- the astral body-projections -- of the spiritual beings or pitris who played an important part in the early evolutionary development of humankind. In the first root-race, "the pure, celestial Being (Dhyan Chohan) and the great Pitris of various classes were commissioned -- the one to evolve their images (Chhaya), and make of them physical man, the others to inform and thus endow him with divine intelligence and the comprehension of the Mysteries of Creation" (SD 2:233n). This idea also appears in the Zohar: "'In the Tzalam (shadow image) of Elohim (the Pitris), was made Adam (man)' " (SD 2:137).​
And Manas, which is latent within us all, is mind - in the higher, spiritual sense ... other terms, like `Lha' and `Amanasa,' can be referenced here.

~andrew
 
Even this, additional definition - of `Ah-hi,' a word from the Stanzas of Dzyan (in the ancient Senzar language) - will help to clarify what went on at the Creation of our Humanity, mirroring as this does, all Higher acts of Creation:
Ah-hi (Senzar) A group or class of celestial or spiritual beings known in different countries under various names: dhyani-chohans, angels or angelic hosts, 'elohim, the Greek minor logoi, etc. Vehicles for the manifestation of cosmic mind and will, they are "the collective hosts of spiritual beings" through which the universal mind comes into action.
"They are the Intelligent Forces that give to and enact in Nature her 'laws,' while themselves acting according to laws imposed upon them in a similar manner by still higher Powers; but they are not 'the personifications' of the power of Nature, as erroneously thought" (SD 1:38). During pralaya "Universal Mind was not, for there were no Ah-hi to contain it," no celestial beings to manifest mind (Stanzas of Dzyan 1:3).​

Commenting on this, Blavatsky describes the Ah-hi as entities who "being on the highest plane, reflect the universal mind collectively at the first flutter of Manvantara. After which they begin the work of evolution of all the lower forces throughout the seven planes, down to the lowest -- our own. The Ah-hi are the primordial seven rays, or Logoi, emanated from the first Logos, triple, yet one in its essence. . . .

"Like all other Hierarchies, on the highest plane they are arupa, i.e., formless, bodiless, without any substance, mere breaths. On the second plane, they first approach to Rupa, or form. On the third, they become Manasa-putras, those who became incarnated in men. With every plane they reach they are called by different names . . ." (TBL 17, 20-21).
 
Luna,

It is interesting to think of man and apes as coming from a common ancestor. Theosophy, however, is adamant about apes being the descendents of man. As a matter of fact, Theosophy identifies the Nephilim of Genesis vi. 4 as being exactly these kinds of creatures.

Now that is an interesting switch of evolutionary thinking...primates evolving from Homo sapiens. Darwin and his faithul would spin on their ears with that idea. :D

v/r

Joshua
 
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Yesterday, in studying this week's lesson from `Creative Thinking' (by Lucille Cedarcrans) with my 101 year old friend ... it occurred to me that the chapter we were on has everything to do with `The Secret' and with The Law of Attraction. This was even one of the topics, coming under Lesson 34 on Definitions of Love.


First there are six definitions provided from Webster's Collegiate Dictionary. Then there are some things pointed out which I think are pertinent to our discussion. An excerpt follows:
Love is a divine energy that is a constituent part of the One Life. It is the magnetic, cohesive, informing, qualifying Son Aspect or Christ Principle of the One in Whom we live, move, and have our being. It is the essential energy of which consciousness is made; the reality behind, underlying and informing, sustaining and qualifying the "I". It is radiatory and altruistic in nature, constructive in purpose, and it is the basic law of the Universe.​
The lesson goes on to point out, by way of example, how many relationships between men and women, which seem in our modern world to be founded on love, are actually quite sentimental and emotional-astral in nature, and are in fact based on such selfish motivations as vanity, the desire of being needed, and the desire to punish or be punished. This is not love at all, yet such relationships are being conditioned - and imperfectly so (because of our imperfect grasp of it, and application of it) - by the Law of Attraction.

A quotation from Matthew 5:38-45 is provided, and it is demonstrated that Jesus pointed out what true love looks like in practice, then it is asked, "What happened?"

Again, an excerpt is relevant to the esoteric presentation and understanding of things:
Students (at this point of realization), lift their attention to love from the astral-emotional plane of life to the Spiritual World of the Christ, and see it as cause. Love is that cause for which and by which they were created. It is then above their instrumentality in frequency, above even their own soul, though it is the stuff out of which their soul is made. They recognize it as the Nature of Christ, the Christ principle overshadowing and indwelling their self. They call it down and out: first into their mind, then into their emotional feeling nature, and finally into their physical life and affairs (as a divine energy which reveals, purifies and transmutes, clarifies and makes whole). They call upon it as a cause, ask to be shown the way of love, and endeavor to embody that way, recreating those effects they have defined as love to more perfectly convey and express the truth.​
They are bringing the energy from above, downward and outward. They are then, finally freed from the astral limitation of the old misconception of "falling in love." They do not fall. They rise, and in doing so, they lift their earth in frequency into heaven, and bring heaven to earth.​
In Nature of the Soul, Lesson Seven, it is stated, "Love, then, produces comprehension. It is the energy which relates many experiences in such a way as to produce a pattern, an evolution, and, finally, intelligent, productive thought." [N.S., p. 89]​
It is this basic relationship (between Love as a a divine energy and the mental capacity to know, to understand, and to initiate the createive act which brings harmony out of conflict or order out of chaos) that must be grasped with clarity by the student who would wield the Law of Love.​

Remember, anyone familiar, that some students regard the Master R. as having been Francis Bacon in a former incarnation - and thus as having been the arhat author of all those masterful plays we find written under the name, William Shakespeare. This made me smile, as I read the next paragraph, despite the subject in question:
The human race trains its children to fear, resent, and to hate those of its own species who are different from themselves. Groups of individuals are trained to hate other groups because of a difference in color, ideology, class or sect. Such hatred, which is covered with the term "prejudice," prevents any possibility of understanding or of right relationship between these various groups of people. Thus, the human race is being constantly divided into all sorts and kinds of camps unable to relate for the common good, or to live together in peace. If it were not so tragic, it would appear to an onlooker as a masterpiece of comedy created for the sole purpose of throwing into relief what not to do.​
Yet it is not a comedy. Men and women dedicate their lives to killing each other, to fostering fear, to creating a world in which evolution without undue pain and suffering is impossible. And in the majority of these situations the average persons believe, with a fanaticism peculiar to the old inquisitions and the holy wars, that they are right, that their inhumanity to their brother is justified. A plea for peace, for understanding, or for the practice of the Golden Rule brings a quick accusation of "subversive" in the many languages of humanity, and the voice of love is quickly hushed around the world.​
Yet, all of these humans, who are in truth brothers in the family of God, aspire to greater intelligence.​
Let us reiterate: "The energy of love in the mind produces right understanding or Wisdom."​
Thus writes a Great One, thus speaks the great Brother of the Christ, the Lord of Civilization, and this is no spurious or "New Age" teaching - save inasmuch as we find the Eternal Truths reformulated in a fashion that Aquarian man can appreciate them and apply them practically to life in the current day and age. Each Era there is a new presentation; this is why we call it the Wisdom perennial.

We do not have to stumble over an unfamiliar language, the problem of (mis-)translation, or social, cultural, national historical context. What is written is written for all, and I daresay it is a clearer presentation than we will find in many other instances (even in some other examples of the Ancient Wisdom) ... of the Law of Love, and final excerpts I will include on the Laws of Attraction, Repulsion and Integration are likewise.

For clarity on the Teaching on the Law of Attraction, then, even if I do not find that `The Secret' gives out an unadulterated or error-free presentation, I would offer the following:
The Law of Attraction
Love, like the focused will, is magnetic ...​
On the soul levels, this law means simply that the soul, which is an evolving consciousness of love, attracts unto itself all that which is needed to form a complete picture of whatever is the subject of its attention.​
The Law of Repulsion
Love repels as well as attracts. On soul levels, it holds away from the form bulding activity whatever is not in harmony with the activity or its purpose.​
The moment the energy of love enters the mind it casts out of it all thoughts that are out of harmony with the purpose and goal entertained by that mind.​
The Law of Integration [or Synthesis]​
The energy of love is cohesive. It not only attracts into right relationship the many parts of a whole, but it also causes those parts to adhere to one another. That plan which is conceived in love will become an integrated, living reality upon which a human being may act.​
Truth is not only seen and understood in sudden or a gradual illuminating flash of insight, but it is integrated into the mind-stuff and eventually into the subconscious of the individual so that it becomes a living part of that individual.​
It can be seen from an observation of these three Laws of the Soul that when love dominates the quality of a human being's thought-life, that thought-life takes on harmony, order, clarity, and right understanding is born like a light in the brain that illumines any concept, problem, or situation with which the person is faced.​
What this Master has just said, is not something attainable only by the few. It is something we all can accomplish.

For the benefit of those who are dedicated to such an accomplishment, I would provide the most inspirational part of the chapter, imo, which are the final, five `Suggested Aids to the The Embodiment of Love':
  1. Practice calling the energy of love from its point of entry upon this planet, The Christ, through your own higher consciousness and into your mind. Flood your mind with this energy, blue-white and golden in color, as often as you can remember to do so.
  2. Visualize those whom you love, and those whom you do not love, and direct with the mind and via the mind, the energy of love to them in an outgoing motion which does not return to yourself.
  3. Use this energy of love in the mind as the basic energy of every relationship in the outer world. See it always moving outward from yourself, never returning, along the threads of all your relationships, acting behind the scenes as an unknown source of strength, stability, healing, and transmutation for others.
  4. With love in the mind, control all emotional responses that are related to love as its effects in race-mind consciousness, so that they reflect love as cause, into the mind.
  5. Acquire a broad and wise point of view by directing the energy of love in the mind to all those situations and circumstances or problems that are perplexing to humanity in this time and place.
I would note the difference, between Master R.'s teaching and those in `The Secret,' that the emphasis is on the flow of love at outgoing, never returning. It has been said that Love gives all, asking nothing for herself. And I think this is what is being stressed.

We are all learning to reverse the flow, and if we were to apply the Law of Attraction for our own, personal gain, we would be misapplying one of the Divine Laws of Being. An esotericist believes that what befalls the personality, and our life within the three worlds (mental, emotional, physical), does so in accordance with karma - and with a Purpose that is Divine, never random.

Namaskar
 
Hi Nick and all –

Well, this discussion has moved on somewhat, and broadened its base, and shot off in a number of different directions, so I wonder if a reply to Nick's original question to me has passed its sell-by date.

Thomas,

You have raised some interesting questions and observations ... But first things first....

Who are the "us" people in Genesis 1:26?

So let me deal with 'first things first' for, when interpreting a text, we must look at the approach to understanding its meaning, because a given epistemology will determine what means and methods are brought to the text to 'unwrap it', as it were, and it is here, not in any subsequent and material difference of understanding, that the difference actually arises.

As has been shown, this resolves to a dispute between the dogmata of Christianity (and Judaism and Islam), and the dogmata of The American Theosophical Association, as to who actually understands the text.

Frithjof Schuon, the world-renown esoterist, said:
"In order to understand ther nature of the Bible and its meaning, it is essential to have recourse to the ideas of both symbolism and revelation. Without an exact and, in the measure necessary, sufficiently profound understanding of the key ideas, the approach to the Bible remains hazardous and risks engendering grave doctrinal, psychological, and historical errors."

"When approaching Scripture, one should always pay the greatest attention to rabbinical and kabbalistic commentaries and in Christianity to the patristic and mystical commentaries; then will it be seen how the word-for-word meaning practically never suffices by itself and how apparent naiveties, inconsistencies, and contradictions resolve themselves in a dimension of profundity for which one must possess the key."

And in this aspect I would suggest that the question of 'who are the "us"' can be resolved, without contradiction; and, might I say in passing, is attested to by Lunamoth's response to the issue of 'two creations'.

Schuon, from the same essay:

"Intellection in principle is for man what revelation is for the collectivity; in principle, we say, for in fact man cannot have access to direct intellection – or gnosis – except by virtue of the pre-existent scriptural revelation. What the Bible describes as the fall of man or the loss of paradise coincides with our separation from total intelligence; this is why it is said that "the kingdom of God is within you," and again: "Knock, and it shall be opened unto you." The Bible itself is the multiple and mysterious objectivation of this Intellect or Logos. It is thus by way of images and enigmas the projection of what we carry in a quasi-inaccessible depth at the bottom of our heart; and the facts of sacred history – where nothing is left to chance – are themselves cosmic projections of the unfathomable divine truth."
Frithjof Schuon, in his essay "The Keys to the Bible" in The Sword of Gnosis, I believe being reprinted by World Wisdom Books.

Schuon was a Protestant convert Universalism, and to Sufism as a Way, and the degree of his metaphysical rigour in the field of comparative studies is perhaps second only to René Guénon.

Thomas
 
Thomas,

You said,

"...we must look at the approach to understanding its meaning..."

--> No. I do not think it is that difficult. The Bible says "us", so "they" must be somebodies or somethings. It is as simple as that.

"...then will it be seen how the word-for-word meaning practically never suffices by itself..."

--> I disagree. Word-for-word meanings work quite well for me.

Are you saying you do not know who the "us" people are? Or are you saying it is impossible to determine who "they" are?

~~~ Folks, sorry for the double posts, but the software is messed up. I make posts, but they do not appear for about five minutes. I then make another post, and the original post then appears.
 
Thomas,

You said,

"...we must look at the approach to understanding its meaning..."

--> No. I do not think it is that difficult. The Bible says "us", so "they" must be somebodies or somethings. It is as simple as that.

"...then will it be seen how the word-for-word meaning practically never suffices by itself..."

--> I disagree. Word-for-word meanings work quite well for me.

Are you saying you do not know who the "us" people are? Or are you saying it is impossible to determine who "they" are?

~~~ Folks, sorry for the double posts, but the software is messed up. I make posts, but they do not appear for about five minutes. I then make another post, and the original post then appears.

Nick, that's ok. "Savoire Faire is everywhere". We got it. :D

v/r

Joshua
 
It just double posted on me, but in anticipation (since you mentioned it), I caught it in time.

v/r

Joshua
 
I opine the error here is that unconditional love, is also unconditional "clemency". Simply not possible for a parent to allow a child to make mistakes without compensence. That is the mark of a bad parent, and the direct cause of a child's bad future. It also marks the beginning of a resentment and anger from the child towards the parent for allowing too much leeway.

v/r

Joshua

edit: I would NEVER do that to a child I loved...why would God do that to me?
 
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