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juantoo3 said:
Not trying to defend anything here, but does anyone else find it curious that humans warmed their shelters by burning wood (or other assorted combustibles, like dried dung) for ages, breathing in all that smoke, yet prior to the tobacco industry lung cancer was practically unheard of?
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To a degree I believe the idea of diesease is what 'gets ya'. Before cancer it was something else and before that it was somethign else... Cancer will vanish... As they all do. But it will be replaced.
 
juantoo3 said:
Not trying to defend anything here, but does anyone else find it curious that humans warmed their shelters by burning wood (or other assorted combustibles, like dried dung) for ages, breathing in all that smoke, yet prior to the tobacco industry lung cancer was practically unheard of?
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There are a heck of a lot of nasty chemicals added to cigarettes that differentiate second hand smoke from typical smoke. Granted exposure to any smoke daily is bad for you, but not as bad as tobacco, and what Alex said.

Tobacco Smoke Doubles Risk Of Breast Cancer
 
I smoke tobacco and I have smoked marijuana.

I basically think that both suck and hard but for me the act of stopping the first one mentioned would be a torment, since I have smoked tobacco already for years. I have never, ever experienced any symptoms regarding to not being able to smoke weed so in that way it's better to smoke that when compared to the effects of tobacco (the difficulty of stopping). But I prefer to keep my head clear, even if marijuana may not be regarded as a "real" drug.
 
China Cat Sunflower said:
I have three months smoke free after today! How is everyone else doing? Juan, Alex?

Chris
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I'm still doing ok, still jonesin', but at this point I think it is purely mental (bring on the straightjacket). All I have to do is remind myself of the taste of the last few lousy smokes I had (and they were *rank* even if they were store bought), and the desire quickly goes away. So far, so good.

Look ma! No pills, no patches, no placebos...and no sanity!
 
I had some really stiff cravings this last week. I'm still on the wagon, but even now, coming up on four months, it's no cake walk.

Chris
 
Good for you man!

It's really weird, I think I want one...but I've been there before, at this point I'll cough and choke and gag and get dizzy and have to force myself into it. But about three cigs later I would be right back into the old routine...

Tonight I had the opportunity, and I almost bit, and then I reminded myself of all this crap and it just didn't seem worth it. At this point I *think* my mind is over-riding the physical craving.

The bad part is, the body does use a small amount of nicotinic acid, in the nerves and brain. It helps the nerves to fire properly. No doubt that is part of the addiction process, because it works and the body gets dependent on the excess.

I've been in some really serious pain the last week or so, nerve pain (sciatic, oh gawd, I'm sounding like the old farts talking about what ails me... :rolleyes: ). I don't know what I'm doing wrong, so I want to lean towards what I know...and unfortunately that has long term ill effects I'm trying to avoid too. Can't seem to win for losing...
 
I've smoked :(

And I was so serious with myself and I convinced myself to quit... Yet I haven't.... I have just been talking to myself now, it is 23:23pm... Tomorrow is a new day... I am going to quit.... I will not smoke again.... Or at least I hope not... Argh! Why did I decide to do this in school... Ok so tomorrow a new day, I will try my best and if there is a god out there, please, have mercy and aid me and give me courage and strength not to do it again... I don't want this.. heh... Almost in freaking tears like this is the end of the world.... I just want to be healthy.... I need you people to be on my ass! Check up and question me... Please? I am tryign to make everyone around me aware of it... Because as sad as it sounds I feel I cannot trust myself.... I need to be questioned and checked up on..... I am trying to ignore the signs but sometimes I don't see them or can't catch them.... Yeah I know I said it was easy... And I really believed it is... Please don't see me as a hypocrite :( But I just cannot trust myself and now are making those around me aware so if they even think I am gonna go for it they can say... Hey no, knock that crap off.... Discourage to encourage.
 
guess, what?????/ i had 2 smokes last week. i could make all the excuses in the world............. i am weak, i was stressed......... i was,,,,,,,,, but i did, and now ill get over it and carry on
 
juantoo3 said:
Good for you man!

It's really weird, I think I want one...but I've been there before, at this point I'll cough and choke and gag and get dizzy and have to force myself into it. But about three cigs later I would be right back into the old routine...

Tonight I had the opportunity, and I almost bit, and then I reminded myself of all this crap and it just didn't seem worth it. At this point I *think* my mind is over-riding the physical craving.

The bad part is, the body does use a small amount of nicotinic acid, in the nerves and brain. It helps the nerves to fire properly. No doubt that is part of the addiction process, because it works and the body gets dependent on the excess.

I've been in some really serious pain the last week or so, nerve pain (sciatic, oh gawd, I'm sounding like the old farts talking about what ails me... :rolleyes: ). I don't know what I'm doing wrong, so I want to lean towards what I know...and unfortunately that has long term ill effects I'm trying to avoid too. Can't seem to win for losing...
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Thanks for the atta boy, Juan. Right back at you! Sorry to hear that you've been in pain.

This isn't my first time trying to quit. I'm intimately familiar with my own process of slipping back into the habit. I'll have one. That one smoke will taste harsher than I remember and will give me a giant head rush. Then I actually won't want another cigarette for a day, maybe even two. Then I'll smoke another one, and won't want any more for maybe a day. And I'll start thinking "hey,...maybe I can just smoke one every once in a while. Maybe I can control it, and just have one or two casually here and there. That way I don't have to completely give it up, but I won't be a "smoker" like before." And from there it's an old story. But not to worry because in another ten years I'll be ready to try again. My mind tried to play that trick on me again this week, and I actually thought about doing it! I thought about having that one smoke! How many times am I gonna be a patsy for that same end-around play? It's a funny, funny thing to observe, I tell you.

Chris
 
Try again Alex. The only thing you've blown is that you have to start counting days over. You still have the benefit of all those days you didn't smoke. Step one is to get the nicotine out of your system. 21 days for that they say. The rest is dropping the physical habit of it from your routine. I wish I was your age doing this instead of another twenty years down the pike, it would be so much easier. Then again, I did try and fail to quit when I WAS your age, so I've only myself to blame.

Buck up! You can do it!

Chris
 
greymare said:
guess, what?????/ i had 2 smokes last week. i could make all the excuses in the world............. i am weak, i was stressed......... i was,,,,,,,,, but i did, and now ill get over it and carry on
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That's pretty much the right answer...as long as it doesn't become your crutch.

I say this in all gentleness, if what you say is sincere, you are on the right track. Keep trying.

But I have also seen when these words become a routine excuse...and then one is just fooling themselves.

Luv ya, grey!
 
Alex P said:
I've smoked :(

And I was so serious with myself and I convinced myself to quit... Yet I haven't.... I have just been talking to myself now, it is 23:23pm... Tomorrow is a new day... I am going to quit.... I will not smoke again.... Or at least I hope not... Argh! Why did I decide to do this in school... Ok so tomorrow a new day, I will try my best and if there is a god out there, please, have mercy and aid me and give me courage and strength not to do it again... I don't want this.. heh... Almost in freaking tears like this is the end of the world.... I just want to be healthy.... I need you people to be on my ass! Check up and question me... Please? I am tryign to make everyone around me aware of it... Because as sad as it sounds I feel I cannot trust myself.... I need to be questioned and checked up on..... I am trying to ignore the signs but sometimes I don't see them or can't catch them.... Yeah I know I said it was easy... And I really believed it is... Please don't see me as a hypocrite :( But I just cannot trust myself and now are making those around me aware so if they even think I am gonna go for it they can say... Hey no, knock that crap off.... Discourage to encourage.
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Hey Alex, unless somebody has been there, they don't have the right to make the call "hypocrite" on this one. Since I am here, I will tell you that you are not a hypocrite.

It's tough. It's an addiction to a very potent chemical. Keep trying! I must have tried half a dozen times over the years. Even now I'm not going to get myself into the mindset of thinking I've whooped it...I've got to keep a handle on it everyday, just like a recovering alky.

I am a former smoker, and I am still susceptible. I've got to keep up the courage and the will to overcome.

You can do it too...but you've got to want it for yourself.

The rest of us can hound you forever, and if you want to keep smoking you'll just brush us off. It's good to make yourself accountable to friends by telling them, but when the day is done you're the one who has to want it for yourself.
 
I hear what you're saying and right now... I am so stressed out all I can think about is smoking.. and having people to discurage wouldn't do a thing... However my fail safe.... I work in the middle of nowhere and there is nothing to be smoked... So I will have to just deal with it, and most likley turn into an aggressive state of mind with customers lol....

"I've got a problem"

"Yeah? Who $"%"%"£ doesn't?!?!..." lol... Cigarettes suck.
 
I know there is a chemical addiction, but have you tried chewing gum or putting a toothpick in your mouth to address the habitual association with smoking and feeling stressed?
 
Not feeling to bad now... Only strangled/throttled three customers... So I am a border line serial killer... ;)

lol... I joke guy, I make joke! Yeah tried gum... Taste disgusting. So that is not an option :p

Toothpick could be interesting... Get a cowboy hat and do some squinty eyed rough looks, be da man... I have seen in my local Tesco "fake cigarettes" It's like a bit of plastic which you pretend is a cigarette lol.... People cannot seriously use these? You must feel such an ass doing that.
 
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