Ouiji Boards?

mee said:
its very true that how we respond to what the bible contains is from us . and that can be in a negative way or in a positive way. for those who apply and act on Gods word the bible it is most benifical indeed .

For all the things that were written aforetime were written for our instruction, that through our endurance and through the comfort from the Scriptures we might have hope ROMANS 15;4

(2 Peter 1:19) Consequently we have the prophetic word [made] more sure; and YOU are doing well in paying attention to it as to a lamp shining in a dark place, until day dawns and a daystar rises, in YOUR hearts.
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Alright son!! lol calm down... five posts? lol... Ah I mis read your posts, you're agreeing with me lol... I'll just shut up then. Indeed it is -you- that has to change and be willing.
 
17th Angel said:
The bible indeed is nothing but a book and a ouiji board is nothing but a freaking board lol they are both useless.... Neither can change a thing, they can't make you a better person, they can't tell you secrets of the past, they do not hold the answers to your future ;\ You are the push that makes you move.... The past is what has been done... So leave it there, and the future is what you make it, a book, board, cross around your neck, a tattoo of some symbol or a lucky hat or whatever isn't going to effect a thing... :\ Self is all you need.... And from there your on your own...
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Apprarently, according to a guy that delivers my milk, if you eat a bible at precisely midnight, in front of the mirror, you see the face of jesus.

It was either that or you get indigestion.......:D
 
mee said:
2 Ki. 21:6: “[King Manasseh] practiced magic and looked for omens and made spirit mediums and professional foretellers of events. He did on a large scale what was bad in Jehovah’s eyes, to offend him.” (Such spiritistic practices actually involved turning to Satan and his demons for help. No wonder it was “bad in Jehovah’s eyes,” and he brought severe punishment upon Manasseh for it. But when he repented and gave up these bad practices, he was blessed by Jehovah.)
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Mee, are you like a spambot that churns out scripture, rather than yer own view...?

:p
 
Oh there are many like that ;\ I heard if you close your eyes and think words in your head... jesus is meant to hear them and perhaps answer them.. Think they said it was called praying.

Mee is totally hooked on the bible, tiz his bread and butter.... Loves it... Loves it, like you and poridge
 
mee said:
satan was the instigater of the biggest lie ever .He said to Eve , YOU WILL NOT DIE he is the one that started death off in the first place.


That is why, just as through one man (Adam)sin entered into the world and death through sin, and thus death spread to all men because they had all sinned—. Romans 5;12


Jesus Christ said of him: “That one was a manslayer when he began, and he did not stand fast in the truth, because truth is not in him.” (Joh 8:44; 1Jo 3:8) Jesus here shows that Satan was once in the truth, but forsook it. Beginning with his first overt act in turning Adam and Eve away from God, he was a manslayer, for he thereby brought about the death of Adam and Eve, which, in turn, brought sin and death to their offspring. (Ro 5:12)
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ahem, this would be the same god that 'punished' the snake by telling him that he would crawl around on his belly for the rest of his days.

Wow, the snake must have felt the pinch with that bit of smiting.....
 
17th Angel said:
Oh there are many like that ;\ I heard if you close your eyes and think words in your head... jesus is meant to hear them and perhaps answer them.. Think they said it was called praying.

Mee is totally hooked on the bible, tiz his bread and butter.... Loves it... Loves it, like you and poridge
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And god said

"Thou shall not eat the oatey slop known as porridge. For if thou doth, thou shall fart for the all eternity".
 
too me, there is nothing satanic, nor accessing the spirit world about ouiji boards or pendulums and the like, I believe we all have access to G!d, all knowledge, but we have issues listening and understanding, pendulums and ouiji boards are things that are designed to be tools to access that information.

Your innate being, within you you can 'hear' the answers and by using something to accentuate minor vibrations of your hands/fingers you amplify the result. of course there are plenty of charlatans and folks that will do anythign to take your money and there also exists the portion of you that thinks it knows the answer and self directs the results (the same portion of you that rejects the answer received if it doesn't coincide with what you believe)
 
17th Angel said:
I understand what you mean it would be awesome to -know- mee, instead of knowing the JW's version of the bible... But, we have tried many times to get him out of his shell.... What can you do eh?
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I suppose it would be like getting blood out of a stone....

;)
 
17th Angel said:
Indeed it is -you- that has to change and be willing.
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we all have to do that if we want to put ourselves inline with Gods word the bible , work in progress for all of us. if we are willing to be taught by the most high :)
 
17th Angel said:
Mee is totally hooked on the bible,
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:) cant think of any thing better to be linked with.

All Scripture is inspired of God and beneficial for teaching, for reproving, for setting things straight, for disciplining in righteousness, that the man of God may be fully competent, completely equipped for every good work. 2 timothy 3;16-17
 
enlightenment said:
Mee, are you like a spambot that churns out scripture, rather than yer own view...?

:p
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But whose thoughts are right? Whose contain the highest wisdom? Whose words will prove to be true? Whose promises will be fulfilled? .............Gods , and its all in the bible .
 
mee said:
But whose thoughts are right? Whose contain the highest wisdom? Whose words will prove to be true? Whose promises will be fulfilled? .............Gods , and its all in the bible .
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mee, it is not that I have any real desire to tear your mask away.

but I do sometimes wonder - friend, what does it hide?

To each his own. The Bhagavad Gita is GOD'S WORD ... (no ifs, ands or buts)

... and OUIJA BOARDS will get you to Christ just as well as the BIBLE, if that's Whom and what you seek.

DEAL WITH IT
 
enlightenment said:
Ach Mee, at least, for all yer stuff about the bible, you don't seem like a man(?) without a sense of humour...

So, for you, I give you....:)


Creationism

YouTube - Creationism with Ricky Gervais



YouTube - Penn & Teller; The Bible is Bullshit.
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seen it all before .:D
The first book of the Bible tells us how mankind’s problems began. The last book shows that the whole earth will become a paradise, or garden. All the material in the Bible covers thousands of years of history and relates in some way to the unfolding of God’s purpose. The harmony of the Bible is impressive, but that is what we would expect of a book from God.:)
 
AndrewX said:
... and OUIJA BOARDS will get you to Christ just as well as the BIBLE,
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havent read that one in the bible

“You must not learn to do according to the detestable things of those nations. There should not be found in you . . . anyone who employs divination, a practicer of magic or anyone who looks for omens or a sorcerer, or one who binds others with a spell or anyone who consults a spirit medium or a professional foreteller of events or anyone who inquires of the dead. For everybody doing these things is something detestable to Jehovah.”—Deut. 18:9-12; Lev. 19:31; 20:6, 27.

what does the Bible advise? Listen to what the LORD is teaching you! Don’t listen to mediums—what they tell you will do you no good.’”—Isa. 8:19, 20, Today’s English Version.
so the following verse is more like the right way to get to know christ

This means everlasting life, their taking in knowledge of you, the only true God, and of the one whom you sent forth, Jesus Christ. John 17;3 and yes you have guessed it, its all in the bible :)
 
Mee, I think you need to watch the Penn & Teller video on the absurdity of Biblical Literalism. Then I'd like to hear your careful, intelligent refutation of the dozens of points they make.

At any rate, I'll go with the simple "test the spirits" in arguing my point. The Bible does say that, but then - I'm just trying to show you how your own, Sacred Scripture can actually be used in getting some good advice about how to proceed in using a ouija board ... or in deciding whether or not to do so.

It's okay if you'd rather not think about it. We can listen to Bible quotes all day long ... :rolleyes:
 
AndrewX said:
At any rate, I'll go with the simple "test the spirits" in arguing my point. The Bible does say that, but then - I'm just trying to show you how your own, Sacred Scripture can actually be used in getting some good advice about how to proceed in using a ouija board ... or in deciding whether or not to do so.

It's okay if you'd rather not think about it. We can listen to Bible quotes all day long ... :rolleyes:
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this verse that you mentioned in (1 john 4;1) is not talking about spirit creatures , it is refering to an anti-christ spirit in people, and what thay say . if it is not inline with christ and what he teaches in the bible then it is wrong. yes its always best to test it out to see if it is inline with the bible and what it teaches, and ouiji boards are not in line with the bible and what it teaches us .
 
mee said:
this verse that you mentioned in (1 john 4;1) is not talking about spirit creatures , it is refering to an anti-christ spirit in people, and what thay say . if it is not inline with christ and what he teaches in the bible then it is wrong. yes its always best to test it out to see if it is inline with the bible and what it teaches, and ouiji boards are not in line with the bible and what it teaches us .
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I have a major problem with the assumption that if it's not in the Bible it must be wrong.

By that logic, the vast majority of the things we take for granted today like modern medicine, computers, the internet, etc. are wrong. After all, they aren't in the Bible.

And which Bible is supposed to be the authoritative one? There are so many to choose from. And why again should non-Christians believe in the Christian Bible in the first place? Why shouldn't we be picking some other religion's holy scripture and telling everyone that they must follow that one?

With regard to things like the Ouija, different religions have different attitudes towards it. Even within a specific religion it's not always a simple thing. People will need to think it through and decide what makes sense to them in their own religious system and based on their own rationalizations. But to expect everyone to follow one specific religion's rules just because it says so in that religion's holy texts is not going to get us very far as a multifaith multicultural world.
 
mee said:
this verse that you mentioned in (1 john 4;1) is not talking about spirit creatures , it is refering to an anti-christ spirit in people, and what thay say . if it is not inline with christ and what he teaches in the bible then it is wrong. yes its always best to test it out to see if it is inline with the bible and what it teaches, and ouiji boards are not in line with the bible and what it teaches us .
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Mee, aside from the bible, can I recommend that you read some other books, maybe for instance, the God Delusion or the Blind Watchmaker. You never know, you might learn something.....;)
 
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