Who created God?

Machines were mice and men were lions, once upon a time;
But now that its the opposite, its twice upon a time.
 
233. Mothers shall suckle their children for two whole years; (that is) for those who wish to complete the suckling. The duty of feeding and clothing nursing mothers in a seemly manner is upon the father of the child. No-one should be charged beyond his capacity. A mother should not be made to suffer because of her child, nor should he to whom the child is born (be made to suffer) because of his child. And on the (father's) heir is incumbent the like of that (which was incumbent on the father). If they desire to wean the child by mutual consent and (after) consultation, it is no sin for them; and if ye wish to give your children out to nurse, it is no sin for you, provide that ye pay what is due from you in kindness. Observe your duty to God, and know that God is Seer of what ye do.
- Qur'an The Cow -
 
Are you sure that you are not Richard Dawkins in disguise? ;)
You quite clearly, don't understand what the Bible actually teaches.
I have never read any book or article by Richard Dawkins or any modern atheist. I have read just one book of essays by Bertrand Russell and the rest of my atheism originates in Advaita Hinduism and Buddhism.

I have a fair idea of what Jesus may have said and how Paul and later Christians presented him.
Who created this?
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Is belief in that in the 21st. century?
Hindu theists have created it. The Abrahamics created their own version. No, it does not suit 21st Century. That is why I am a strong atheist.
 
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According to Markandey Katju, former Chairman of the Press Council of India and former judge of the Supreme Court of India, "...there are six classical systems of Indian philosophy, Nyaya, Vaisheshik, Sankya, Yoga, Purva Mimansa and Uttar Mimansa, and three non-classical systems, Buddhism, Jainism and Charvak. Out of these nine systems eight of them are atheistic as there is no place for God in them. Only the ninth one, that is Uttar Mimansa, which is also called Vedanta, has a place for God in it."

You'll have to pardon me for my confusion :)
 
Are you sure that you are not Richard Dawkins in disguise?
Why does celebrity give weight to a person's beliefs, and what value does it have in the discussion? Why does what Dawkins believes (about God) matter more than what the person on the supermarket till believes?
 
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It's Good Friday tomorrow.
It's a public holiday here in the UK.

I firmly believe that Jesus was nailed to a cross!

Jesus was a teacher confounding the other scribes and teachers, and asserted they were foolish since they tried to understand the world by analyzing the law. But Error grew angry at this, and nailed Jesus to a cross. It also proceeds to describe how it is knowledge of the Father that grants salvation, which constitutes eternal rest, describing ignorance as a nightmare.
- Gospel of Truth -

May Almighty God guide us all and Save Our Souls .. Amen.
 
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I firmly believe that Jesus was nailed to a cross!

Jesus was a teacher confounding the other scribes and teachers, and asserted they were foolish since they tried to understand the world by analyzing the law. But Error grew angry at this, and nailed Jesus to a cross. It also proceeds to describe how it is knowledge of the Father that grants salvation, which constitutes eternal rest, describing ignorance as a nightmare.
--Gospel of Truth -
What a lot of tosh
 
What a lot of tosh

Really? :D
Where am I going wrong?
Do you think I should be following denominational teachings
rather than bright students of a renowned University such as Cambridge?
I'll stick with Sir Isaac Newton and the "Arians", thankyou.
 
No .. not just Physics..

Although born into an Anglican family, by his thirties Newton held a Christian faith that, had it been made public, would not have been considered orthodox by mainstream Christians; Scholars now consider him a Nontrinitarian Arian. In 2019, John Rogers stated, "Heretics both, John Milton and Isaac Newton were, as most scholars now agree, Arians.

Newton embarked on an investigative study of the early history of the Church, which developed, during the 1680s, into inquiries about the origins of religion. At around the same time, he developed a scientific view on motion and matter. Of Philosophiæ Naturalis Principia Mathematica he stated:

When I wrote my treatise about our Systeme I had an eye upon such Principles as might work with considering men for the beliefe of a Deity and nothing can rejoyce me more than to find it useful for that purpose.

He was also the first University Professor that wasn't required to make an allegiance to the King regards belief in the trinity.

Along with his scientific fame, Newton's studies of the Bible and of the early Church Fathers were also noteworthy. Newton wrote works on textual criticism, most notably An Historical Account of Two Notable Corruptions of Scripture and Observations upon the Prophecies of Daniel, and the Apocalypse of St. John. He placed the crucifixion of Jesus Christ at 3 April, AD 33, which agrees with one traditionally accepted date
 
No .. not just Physics..



Newton embarked on an investigative study of the early history of the Church, which developed, during the 1680s, into inquiries about the origins of religion. At around the same time, he developed a scientific view on motion and matter. Of Philosophiæ Naturalis Principia Mathematica he stated:



He was also the first University Professor that wasn't required to make an allegiance to the King regards belief in the trinity.

Along with his scientific fame, Newton's studies of the Bible and of the early Church Fathers were also noteworthy. Newton wrote works on textual criticism, most notably An Historical Account of Two Notable Corruptions of Scripture and Observations upon the Prophecies of Daniel, and the Apocalypse of St. John. He placed the crucifixion of Jesus Christ at 3 April, AD 33, which agrees with one traditionally accepted date
There are two great basic errors of logic:

1) Muslim men have beards therefore men who have beards are Muslim
2) 'A' happened 'B' also happened therefore A and B are related

Some self professed logicians constantly abuse both principles, imo
 
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To which a third could be added: I don't get it therefore it's not useful?
 
..I don't get it therefore it's not useful?

Well, you called the Gospel of Truth "tosh".
I doubt whether Isaac Newton would have done.
The Nag Hammadi library was only discovered in 1945, so Newton wouldn't have
had that evidence :)

In a later memoir, Newton wrote:

I do not know what I may appear to the world, but to myself I seem to have been only like a boy playing on the sea-shore, and diverting myself in now and then finding a smoother pebble or a prettier shell than ordinary, whilst the great ocean of truth lay all undiscovered before me.
 
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Well, you called the Gospel of Truth "tosh".
I doubt whether Isaac Newton would have done.
The Nag Hammadi library was only discovered in 1945, so Newton wouldn't have
had that evidence :)
You doubt Newton would have commented on a book he didn't know existed?
 
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