identifying...Babylon the great

[juantoo3]

Kindest Regards, paganprophet!

You're assuming that the Bible's history reflects real history. Those tribes of Israel..you need to step beyond the Bible and do some research on Near Eastern history to find out for yourself that ancient biblical writers confused places with people, nations with people, and gods with people, and didn't tell the truth as it really was.

You wouldn't be moving the goalposts now, would you? While there might be a bit of wiggle room pertaining to history during the time of Moses and before, the history from the time of Solomon on is generally held to be fairly reliable by scholars, at least as reliable as any other sources from that period of time. So let us not conflate the two. There is historic time, which to this point you have been convoluting, and there is mythic time, of which now you are attempting to equate and confuse.

E.g. Asher wasn't an Israelite tribe but the god of Assyria. Gad too is another pagan god, a goat god I think as the headwaters of the Jordan flow out of Baal Gad spring, dedicated to a Pan-like goat god.

Judah scribes never told you that even the word "Benjamin" has nothing to do with Abrahamic monotheism nor does it mean a ravenous wolf as in the Genesis description--it refers directly to the ancient worship of Yamm, the Canaanite sea and river god of judgment. "Ben"= "Sons of" Yamm.

Whether or not these translational issues may be true is irrelevant to the names of the tribes. Think of it this way, how many Charlies do you know? Let's see, there's your brother (or uncle or other close relative), your neighbor, your best buddy in high school, your favorite teacher, the guy at the butcher shop, the guy at the tire store...and Charles Manson. Even if your brother or any of these guys actually was named after Charlie Manson, they are not Charles Manson.

In other words, so what?

So the history you've accepted as real includes Israelite monotheistic tribes named after pagan gods and I think they included pagan believers as well. These tribes didn't disappear-they were part of the Canaanite pagans to which the Israelites also belonged before the fall of Canaan to Egypt.

Suggesting Israel was Canaanitish is a bit disingenuous, in that #1, Israel didn't even exist yet except for the father of many nations Abraham (*many nations besides Israel and Islam*), and #2, you just got done saying how Biblical history is inaccurate. Either there is a remote hint of historical accuracy and that Abraham was called to leave the vicinity of Canaan (and the pagans that lived there), or else someone is mixing up various periods of history in an effort to mislead those who haven't looked at the historical timeline or followed the story from beginning to end. Personally, I am satisfied that there is sufficient historical veracity even if the details might be somewhat off. The 12 tribes are all mentioned again in the New Testament book of Revelations, minus Dan who was already ostracized. In Revelations the two half tribes are given full tribe status. Perhaps not any sufficient kind of verification for someone looking to dismiss the Bible, but to me it serves as a further witness to the veracity of the 12 tribes. Even so, I don't believe we are going to begin setting our calendars by the blessings bestowed on the 12 patriarchal brothers...perhaps there is some degree of metaphor and allegory, embellishment and mythos. I don't see where that means Judaism (and by extension Christianity) should start throwing their babies out with the bathwater.

 

[paganprophet]

The baby, baby Jesus, will be ok, but the bathwater goes down the drain along with other religious mythologies where gods and goddesses descend to mate with humans to produce the royal lineages.

There is so much knowledge God is resurrecting in our times that overturns all the Abrahamic myths it's hard to know where to begin to unravel the twisted threads of history and mythology.

For example, Yahweh, tribal god of the Israelites, started off life as Yamm, Canaanite god of the sea and rivers and judgment. And arch-enemy of Baal, a war that Yahweh continues all through the Jewish epic.

Originally God Most High was the Canaanite highest god, EL Elyon. Israelites were one of the tribes in the greater Canaan confederacy of tribal kingdoms. Hebrew is a dialect of the Canaanite language. Canaanite religious motifs are found all through Jewish monotheism, e.g. the design for Solomon's Temple is a direct copy of pagan Canaanite temples, the messiah concept was first seen in the Canaanite religion where the earthly king to be righteous, modeled his rulership on that of EL Elyon, God Most high, who, unlike Yahweh, was loved by the Canaanites as their "Compassionate One", their "Kindly One", their "Friendly One", because these ancient Canaanites were not taught to fear EL. EL ruled the Canaanite pantheon of gods and goddesses with wisdom and compassion while the lower war gods, ruled through force and fear. A general's commands must always be obeyed and the penalty for disobedience is swift and harsh. So too the war gods commandments of Yahweh.

Jesus found EL which is why Jesus' teachings do not reflect the god of the Old Testament, Yahweh. There is much more to learn about the incredible mixing of pagan religious concepts with the stripped down pagan gods of the Abrahamic religionists.

 

[juantoo3]

Kindest Regards, paganprophet!

Thank you for your response.

The baby, baby Jesus, will be ok, but the bathwater goes down the drain along with other religious mythologies where gods and goddesses descend to mate with humans to produce the royal lineages.

Other religious mythologies where gods and goddesses descend to mate with humans to produce royal lineages? Perhaps in quite a number of pagan pantheons this is so, the Greco-Roman pantheon comes to mind, as do the Oriental pantheons. But not the Jews. It is even further back in mythological time in Genesis where it is mentioned the Nephilim descending and mating with humans, and the purpose of Noah's flood was specifically to do away with that polluted race. A second influx is mentioned, dealing with a race of giants who incidentally lived in Canaan, of whom Og and Goliath are specific examples, against whom the Jews deliberately warred. In layman's terms, the children of G-d were set to battle with the children of the fallen angels, terms for the most part kept to. When those terms were not met, Israel including Judah suffered the consequences.

There is so much knowledge God is resurrecting in our times that overturns all the Abrahamic myths it's hard to know where to begin to unravel the twisted threads of history and mythology.

Perhaps, yet there is also knowledge resurrected by men in an effort to overturn the Abrahamic myths. Genesis isn't meant to be entirely factually historical. The earth wasn't created in 6 revolutions of the earth. The flood of Noah likely did not cover the entire globe. The epic period between Ha-Adam and Noah records something like 1800 years, but that figure may well be philosophical, and in the end pertaining to the lessons taught it is irrelevant. After the flood, when the land masses split and human lifetimes grow appreciably shorter, the single tongue is confused and people scatter. We know from linguistic studies that the vast majority of the languages still in use among various tribes of peoples stem back to a proto-semitic language called Sanskrit. Writing, we know from cuneiform tablets found in Mesopotamia, represent the earliest documentation available to us, and it is here we find such as the Epic of Gilgamesh, as well as records that correspond quite closely with the story of the Flood of Noah, in addition to our earliest examples of mathematics and astrology / astronomy.

For example, Yahweh, tribal god of the Israelites, started off life as Yamm, Canaanite god of the sea and rivers and judgment. And arch-enemy of Baal, a war that Yahweh continues all through the Jewish epic.

This may be one interpretation of such findings, but it is an interpretation I hold suspect. I do not agree. Not for stubbornness but for credibility. It seems to me a very far stretch in light of the lack of supporting corroboration.

Originally God Most High was the Canaanite highest god, EL Elyon. Israelites were one of the tribes in the greater Canaan confederacy of tribal kingdoms. Hebrew is a dialect of the Canaanite language.

That's just it though, this is supposition, and not supported. The Israelites did not even go by that name until the time of Jacob and his 12 sons, shortly after which, if one recalls the story, the Israelites went into bondage in Egypt for some 400 years or so. Bondage proved a double-edged sword for Israel, in that while their bondage was often cruel, it also served as an incubator that allowed Israel to grow. By the time of Moses, there was a great multitude, a far greater population than that of the 12 brothers and their families that went in. So, if anything, I fail to see how Israel could be Canaanitish if they were incubated in Egypt. Now, in the sense that after Moses led them through the wilderness and Joshua led them across into Canaan to evict the progeny of the Nephilim and claim the land as their own, then Israel became associated with the land of Canaan. Not before.

Canaanite religious motifs are found all through Jewish monotheism, e.g. the design for Solomon's Temple is a direct copy of pagan Canaanite temples,

I find this very difficult to accept. I have seen probably a dozen or so artist's renditions of the Temple of Solomon, no two of which agreed. So, which one of these is a direct copy of a pagan Canaanite temple? The simple historical fact is that the Temple has been raised twice and razed twice, there is nothing there to *factually* assess other than what historic corroboration there is from other sources, none of which provide sufficient detail to make any more than an educated guess. We can know, historically, that the Temple of Solomon existed, but we don't have a clue exactly what it looked like. Well, that's not entirely true, we have clues, but little more.

the messiah concept was first seen in the Canaanite religion where the earthly king to be righteous, modeled his rulership on that of EL Elyon, God Most high, who, unlike Yahweh, was loved by the Canaanites as their "Compassionate One", their "Kindly One", their "Friendly One",

Ah, because pagans had a messiah, then Jews and by extension Christians must be pagan? Pretty slim pickins...

because these ancient Canaanites were not taught to fear EL.

This highlights translational error. "Fear" is the English word, Olde English at that. I am being lazy not going to the Strong's, but the word used means "reverently trust, respect." As in; "Fear G-d, and keep His Commandments." Kinda sheds a little different light in the subject, no? At the very least it shows how subtleties and nuances in Hebrew are lost in translation to English.

EL ruled the Canaanite pantheon of gods and goddesses with wisdom and compassion while the lower war gods, ruled through force and fear. A general's commands must always be obeyed and the penalty for disobedience is swift and harsh. So too the war gods commandments of Yahweh.

Sounding more to me like Gilgamesh, et al.

Jesus found EL which is why Jesus' teachings do not reflect the god of the Old Testament, Yahweh. There is much more to learn about the incredible mixing of pagan religious concepts with the stripped down pagan gods of the Abrahamic religionists.

See, this interpretation is problematic in that if the Jews are pagan by your assessment, then so are Christians by default. I have already showed extensively where your interpretation is faulty, so I am gonna have to say I disagree. Not that there's anything wrong with being pagan (well, depending what kind of pagan), provided one still ends up with something like the Golden Rule for a foundation, and doesn't roast their babies and eat them (like the priests of Baal did).

Are you aware of the word transliterated into English for priest of Baal? It is Kahna-Baal, from which we get the word cannibal.

 

[mee]

Well, at least the Mayan calendar is a bit more specific. The beginning of the end comes on 21 December 2012...

Wait a minute...Babylon the great has fallen? Somebody better tell the Roman Catholic church, the Pope and the city of Rome of that little bit of trivia...

The only "city" that fell in 1919 was Berlin, and the country of Germany at large.

The "spirit" can't say anything, it isn't a person Mee, just a manifestaion of force; you said so yourself, many times.

I honestly try to follow your logic and reasoning...but there doesn't seem to be any rhyme or reason to it.

I'm certain that God is coming back...I just don't know when, and He specfically states we aren't to worry about it, just be ready and aware when the time comes...

Like my dad once

Moral of that story is, every breath you take, give thanks to God, and help your neighbor, if and when you can...

v/r

advised me...Living for tomorrow, means we miss what is going on today. And twenty four hours is about all we really get (sometimes not even that).
Q

bible prophecy and chronology is very specific, 1914 was the beginning of the end, and Babylon the great did fall in 1919 and it is being made known , so someone has told about it , let him who has ears listen . remember babylon the great is not a litral city, it symbolizes ( the world wide empire of false religion) and this symbolic city no longer has any power over Gods people. and as you mentioned , give thanks to Jehovah God the only true God psalm 83;18 its all happening in the time of the end . and the understanding is there for the taking, but do we want it?

 

[mee]

Revelation 17:1-5 says: "‘Come, I will show you the judgment upon the great harlot who sits on many waters [peoples], with whom the kings [political rulers] of the earth committed fornication, whereas those who inhabit the earth were made drunk with the wine of her fornication.’ . . . And upon her forehead was written a name, a mystery: ‘Babylon the Great, the mother of the harlots and of the disgusting things of the earth.’" Revelation 18:7 adds that "she glorified herself and lived in shameless luxury."​

Is it not true that the dominant religious organizations have made it a practice to consort with political rulers for power and material gain, though this has resulted in suffering for the common people? Is it not also true that their higher clergy live in luxury, even though many of the people to whom they should minister may be impoverished?

 

[Francis king]

erm, I heard it might have been a deliberate attempt to quash the cult of Isis?

 

[17th Angel]

Revelation 17:1-5 says: "‘Come, I will show you the judgment upon the great harlot who sits on many waters [peoples], with whom the kings [political rulers] of the earth committed fornication, whereas those who inhabit the earth were made drunk with the wine of her fornication.’ . . . And upon her forehead was written a name, a mystery: ‘Babylon the Great, the mother of the harlots and of the disgusting things of the earth.’" Revelation 18:7 adds that "she glorified herself and lived in shameless luxury."​

​

Sound like you know her Mee.... Pst... Couldn't hook us up?

 

[BlaznFattyz]

bible prophecy and chronology is very specific, 1914 was the beginning of the end, and Babylon the great did fall in 1919 and it is being made known , so someone has told about it , let him who has ears listen . remember babylon the great is not a litral city, it symbolizes ( the world wide empire of false religion) and this symbolic city no longer has any power over Gods people. and as you mentioned , give thanks to Jehovah God the only true God psalm 83;18 its all happening in the time of the end . and the understanding is there for the taking, but do we want it?

jesus christ was born king of kings, your dates have nothing to do with it. For the father has proclaimed, let all angels of god worship him for his name is above all names, and all that honor the son honor the father, and all that glorify the son glorify the father; for no one has seen the father but the son. so at his birth, as the word of god through whom all things are created came humbly into this world to die for our sins, yet the angels and wise men came to worship him, even the greatest king came on a lowly donkey, and was rejected by men, yet he is the light of the world and our saviour that makes all things new. yet he is coming again with great power and he will judge evil men; the antichrist and the false prophet who have blasphemed against him.

 

[Quahom1]

bible prophecy and chronology is very specific, 1914 was the beginning of the end, and Babylon the great did fall in 1919 and it is being made known , so someone has told about it , let him who has ears listen . remember babylon the great is not a litral city, it symbolizes ( the world wide empire of false religion) and this symbolic city no longer has any power over Gods people. and as you mentioned , give thanks to Jehovah God the only true God psalm 83;18 its all happening in the time of the end . and the understanding is there for the taking, but do we want it?

If 1914 is the date for the end of gentile reign, and the return of Jesus, is based on the laying seige and sacking of Jeruselam, by the Babylonians, and using the formula of 360 days times seven times (and each day equals one year), the total being 2520 years from 1914 would indeed place one at 607 BCE...except Jeruselam was laid seige to in 586 BCE, not 607 BCE. Therefore the actual date for the beginning of end times would be 1893, not 1914.

If one were to use 365 days times seven added to 607 BCE (then the total being 2555), would place the beginning of the end of days would be 1948.

Even if one went and used 365 days times seven and applied it to 586 BCE, the beginning of the end of days would be 1927.

If the actual days of a year (365.25) were multiplied by seven times and added to 607 BCE and 586 BCE respectively the beginning of the end of days would be the fall of 1954 or the fall of 1933.

Regardless, 1914 (using the formula in Daniel 4), never adds up, in any of the possible scenarios.

As far as the world religion, the only one that comes even close would be socialism/communism which got its origins from Karl Marx circa 1848. True it does not have the sway it once had, but neither is it dead. However it is a religion in a great many respects, with the true believer being literally an "apostle" of the faith. The ultimate goal is a workers eutopian paradise wherein all goods and wealth are evenly distributed to all people, while the people swear allegence to the party and the state. There in short, is no room for God.

just some observations.

v/r

Q

 

[mee]

If 1914 is the date for the end of gentile reign, and the return of Jesus, is based on the laying seige and sacking of Jeruselam, by the Babylonians, and using the formula of 360 days times seven times (and each day equals one year), the total being 2520 years from 1914 would indeed place one at 607 BCE...except Jeruselam was laid seige to in 586 BCE, not 607 BCE. Therefore the actual date for the beginning of end times would be 1893, not 1914.


just some observations.

v/r

Q

yes ,1914 is the end of the appointed times of the nations, or the end of the Gentiletimes as the king James version puts it, it was at this date that the one with the legal right took the kingship, and of course that one with the legal right was Jesus christ. He is now a reigning king in Gods heavenly kingdom Daniel 2;44 DANIEL 7;13-14 This is the date that Jesus recieved his aurthority ,and since then he has been riding that symbolic white horse as a warrior king. and the ride goes on . waiting for Jesus to arrive in a visible way is not the thing to do as he will not arrive in the flesh and blood of a man . he is right now a reigning king in the heavens and he is directing his people on the earth. and he is full of the active force of the most high (Jehovah) and the directing goes on , and the fullfillment of bible prophecy goes on. you mentioned that 607 was not the right date ,

the seven times of earth’s domination by worldly powers without divine interference amount to 2,520 years. Counting 2,520 years from 607 B.C.E. brings us to 1914 C.E. That is the year when "the appointed times of the nations," or seven times, ended. This means that Jesus Christ began to rule as King of God’s Kingdom in 1914.​

Since the Messianic Kingdom has already been established in heaven, should we continue to pray for it to come, as taught by Jesus in the model prayer? (Matthew 6:9, 10) Yes. That petition is proper and still full of meaning. God’s Kingdom will yet assert its full power toward this earth.
The "seven times" of earth’s domination by Gentile powers without interference by God’s Kingdom therefore spanned 2,520 years. They began with the desolation of Judah and Jerusalem in the seventh lunar month (Tishri 15) of 607 B.C.E. (2 Kings 25:8, 9, 25, 26) From that point to 1 B.C.E. is 606 years. The remaining 1,914 years stretch from then to 1914 C.E. Thus, the "seven times," or 2,520 years, ended by Tishri 15, or October 4/5, 1914 C.E.
The "seventy years" that ended in the autumn of the year 537 B.C.E. must have begun, then, in the autumn of 607 B.C.E. The facts bear this out. Jeremiah chapter 52 describes the momentous events of the siege of Jerusalem, the Babylonian breakthrough, and the capture of King Zedekiah in 607 B.C.E. Then, as verse 12 states, "in the fifth month, on the tenth day," that is, the tenth day of Ab (corresponding to parts of July and August), the Babylonians burned the temple and the city. However, this was not yet the starting point of the "seventy years." Some vestige of Jewish sovereignty still remained in the person of Gedaliah, whom the king of Babylon had appointed as governor of the remaining Jewish settlements. "In the seventh month," Gedaliah and some others were assassinated, so that the remaining Jews fled in fear to Egypt. Then only, from about October 1, 607 B.C.E., was the land in the complete sense "lying desolated . . . to fulfill seventy years."—2 Ki. 25:22-26; 2 Chron. 36:20, 21.

 

[mee]

[/left]

Sound like you know her Mee.... Pst... Couldn't hook us up?

lol ....i have seen a lot of her goings on , and she is full of disgusting things, that is why i have made my break away . i am after faithfulness its much better you know in the long run.

 

[mee]

jesus christ was born king of kings, your dates have nothing to do with it. For the father has proclaimed, let all angels of god worship him for his name is above all names, and all that honor the son honor the father, and all that glorify the son glorify the father; for no one has seen the father but the son. so at his birth, as the word of god through whom all things are created came humbly into this world to die for our sins, yet the angels and wise men came to worship him, even the greatest king came on a lowly donkey, and was rejected by men, yet he is the light of the world and our saviour that makes all things new. yet he is coming again with great power and he will judge evil men; the antichrist and the false prophet who have blasphemed against him.

Yes Jesus christ , he was born to be a king and he certainly is one he is right now a reigning king in the well established heavenly kingdom 2;44 Daniel 7;13-14 and yes he will come with the angels with great power to judge , its all happening in this time of the end . putting our trust in the rightful king is the way to go . those against him as a reigning king are the antichrist , and the false prophet who claims to be the way to peace on earth is certainly a false prophet indeed. there is only one way to peace on the earth and that is Gods heavenly kingdom with Jesus as a reigning king Daniel 2;44 Daniel 7;13-14 yes the false prophet sure is putting itself in the place of the only way to peace . and that is blasphemy. its best to look to the right channel, and then it will be the true way to peace on the earth. putting our trust in the only way to peace is the way to go . manmade counterfeits are not the real thing and will only fail . there is only one way to salvation and Jesus plays a very very big part in it .

 

[mee]

SUDDEN, shocking, devastating—such will be the demise of Babylon the Great! It will be one of the most catastrophic events in all history, marking the start of the "great tribulation such as has not occurred since the world’s beginning until now, no, nor will occur again."—Matthew 24:21.

 

[Prober]

lol ....i have seen a lot of her goings on , and she is full of disgusting things, that is why i have made my break away . i am after faithfulness its much better you know in the long run.

Amen.

 

[Marsh]

Re: Babylon the great

You have still not explained the 1000+ years gap that your interpretation puts between the legs and the feet. Nor have you explained that Daniel only spoke of FOUR kingdoms - you are making a fifth kingdom. It seems clear to me that Rome (iron) would continue right until the end, when the Messianic Kingdom will be set up.

Well, I guess it depends on how you look at it, Kenod. Here are a few alternative views:

To my reading of the book of Daniel, the only place where I see iron equated with Rome is in the footnotes; the Roman empire didn't exist in Daniel's time, so he wouldn't have made that connection, anyways. Rome could be iron, but Rome is so connected to Greece in many ways that the belly and thighs of brass could refer to both of them, with iron coming afterwards. My basis for this is Daniel's description of the fourth beast with teeth of iron that was different than the other three beasts that came before it. The Roman empire covered mostly the same territory as the Greek, was governed much in the same way, had the same gods in their pantheon... doesn't seem much different than what came before it.

Another way to look at it is as if the Roman empire has never ended, leaving no gap at all. Think about it: Before the final end of the Roman empire proper, Rome had colonized Britain and what would become Germany and Russia. Even up until the First World War the titles of Kaiser in Germany and Czar in Russia were based on the title of Caesar. To me, Britain can be looked at as the legacy of the Roman Empire (just ask James Joyce the next time you see him), and since it was the British that colonized America it could be said that America is now holding the same torch that the Romans lit.

Just thoughts. Hey, how's that for resurrecting an old thread?

Marsh

 

[mee]

Re: Babylon the great

Just thoughts. Hey, how's that for resurrecting an old thread?

Marsh

A good thread to resurrect very timely indeed , soon
BABYLON THE GREAT will be destroyed , and it will be the most high JEHOVAH himself that will put it into the minds of those who think it is their thought to do it .


and at that time when that happens, it will be the START OF THE GREAT TRIBULATION. revelation 7;14


being no part of BABYLON THE GREAT is where Gods people are NOW REVELATION 18;4 -5
And I heard another voice out of heaven say: "Get out of her, my people, if YOU do not want to share with her in her sins, and if YOU do not want to receive part of her plagues. For her sins have massed together clear up to heaven, and God has called her acts of injustice to mind.

Jehovah uses human rulers in executing judgment. "For God put it into their hearts to carry out his thought, even to carry out their one thought by giving their kingdom to the wild beast, until the words of God will have been accomplished." (Revelation 17:17)


What is God’s "thought"? To arrange for the executioners of Babylon the Great to band together, in order to destroy her completely.

Of course, the rulers’ motive in attacking her will be to carry out their own "one thought." They will feel that it is in their nationalistic interests to turn upon the great harlot.


They may come to view the continued existence of organized religion within their boundaries as a threat to their sovereignty.

But Jehovah will actually be maneuvering matters; they will carry out his thought by destroying his age-old, adulterous enemy at one stroke!—Compare Jeremiah 7:8-11, 34.


stand still and see the salvation of Jehovah,
JEHOVAHS people have got out of BABYLON THE GREAT and they have allowed JEHOVAH to take them in . thats the wayto do it

 

[mee]

Because they support the political systems of the world, many religious leaders have opposed, even persecuted, those who proclaim the truth about God’s Kingdom.


Interestingly, the Bible book of Revelation mentions a symbolic harlot “Babylon the Great”


who is “drunk with the blood of the holy ones and with the blood of the witnesses of Jesus.” REV 17 4-7 She also practices spiritual harlotry by lending her support to earth’s “kings,” or political rulers, receiving favors in return.

This symbolic woman is none other than the false religions of the world. She is a major part of the antichrist. REV 18;2-3 JAMES 4;4

 

[mee]

identifying...Babylon the great


its revealed its

THE WORLDWIDE EMPIRE OF FALSE RELIGION


Some 4,000 years ago, after the Flood of Noah’s day, Satan raised up Nimrod, "a mighty hunter in opposition to Jehovah." (Genesis 10:9, 10) Nimrod’s greatest city, Babylon (Babel), became a center of demonistic religion.


When Jehovah confused the language of Babel’s tower builders, the people were scattered around the earth, and they carried their false religion with them.

Thus Babylon became the source of a worldwide empire of false religion, named Babylon the Great in the book of Revelation.

That book foretells the doom of this ancient religious system.—Revelation 17:5; 18:21.



According to Bible prophecy, the political powers associated with the United Nations will turn against the world empire of false religion and devastate her.


All false religions will be affected.

Some political systems have already shown their impatience with false religion’s interference in political and social spheres.

 

[Quahom1]

identifying...Babylon the great


its revealed its

THE WORLDWIDE EMPIRE OF FALSE RELIGION


Some 4,000 years ago, after the Flood of Noah’s day, Satan raised up Nimrod, "a mighty hunter in opposition to Jehovah." (Genesis 10:9, 10) Nimrod’s greatest city, Babylon (Babel), became a center of demonistic religion.


When Jehovah confused the language of Babel’s tower builders, the people were scattered around the earth, and they carried their false religion with them.

Thus Babylon became the source of a worldwide empire of false religion, named Babylon the Great in the book of Revelation.

That book foretells the doom of this ancient religious system.—Revelation 17:5; 18:21.



According to Bible prophecy, the political powers associated with the United Nations will turn against the world empire of false religion and devastate her.


All false religions will be affected.

Some political systems have already shown their impatience with false religion’s interference in political and social spheres.

You are mixing "religion" with "faith". No religion is false, and no religion is true, they just are man made rituals performed about a faith.

Faith is or can be either false or true. Unfortunately there are many faiths out there that claim to be absolute truth.

The sad fact is that no one faith out there has lived up to its expectations by the people that follow it to show the world that it is the true faith. Talk is cheap.

Actions are priceless and are so because they are so hard to come by.

The only way to see faith in action, and to even begin to determine if it is true or not is by the fruit it bears.

 

[Bishadi]

identifying...Babylon the great


its revealed its

THE WORLDWIDE EMPIRE OF FALSE RELIGION


Some 4,000 years ago, after the Flood of Noah’s day, Satan raised up Nimrod, "a mighty hunter in opposition to Jehovah." (Genesis 10:9, 10) Nimrod’s greatest city, Babylon (Babel), became a center of demonistic religion.


When Jehovah confused the language of Babel’s tower builders, the people were scattered around the earth, and they carried their false religion with them.

Thus Babylon became the source of a worldwide empire of false religion, named Babylon the Great in the book of Revelation.

That book foretells the doom of this ancient religious system.—Revelation 17:5; 18:21.



According to Bible prophecy, the political powers associated with the United Nations will turn against the world empire of false religion and devastate her.


All false religions will be affected.

Some political systems have already shown their impatience with false religion’s interference in political and social spheres.

The form Babylon is the Greek variant of Akkadian Babilu (bāb-ilû, meaning "Gateway of the god(s)",

Jeruselem (the mount) is the 'gate of the god' for all three of the ladies (religions of abraham)

13And I saw three unclean spirits like frogs come out of the mouth of the dragon, and out of the mouth of the beast, and out of the mouth of the false prophet.

14For they are the spirits of devils, working miracles, which go forth unto the kings of the earth and of the whole world, to gather them to the battle of that great day of God Almighty.

the deception of the three, (requires miracles to belief), of all lands, and all associate to the same location, Look at the world TODAY


Nahem 3;13Behold, thy people in the midst of thee are women: the gates of thy land shall be set wide open unto thine enemies: the fire shall devour thy bars. nuclear


Hebrew 13: 8Jesus Christ the same yesterday, and to day, and for ever.


9Be not carried about with divers and strange doctrines. For it is a good thing that the heart be established with grace; not with meats, which have not profited them that have been occupied therein.

10We have an altar, whereof they have no right to eat which serve the tabernacle. Occupation, alter: no zionist idea should be pursued

11For the bodies of those beasts, whose blood is brought into the sanctuary by the high priest for sin, are burned without the camp.

12Wherefore Jesus also, that he might sanctify the people with his own blood, suffered without the gate. He did not have jeruselems blessing (the gate)

13Let us go forth therefore unto him without the camp, bearing his reproach.

14For here have we no continuing city, but we seek one to come. jeruselem is not the 'zion' of christ... bablilu will not continue as the 'new' is yet been known




babylon is jeruselem

now reread your revelations and see just how bad it is