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[/FONT][/COLOR] We can choose to forget. We can be sleeping to the broader being of which we are a part. Our cells are part of us... they ARE us. But they probably don't realize this. It doesn't make their being as part of a larger process of being any less true. Further, it would seem...

Limitless light and love. God Herself is the source and ground of all being- She is being itself, creativity and change and all the forces that allow the manifest multiverse to be possible. When I think of the Divine- of God Herself- I generally think of sound. I think of vibration and sound...

True. Why did I ask? LOL :D I guess it's more like... thoughts? I read it a few years ago and was very inspired, and it also made my own journey make a lot more sense to me. However, there were particular doctrinal and practical aspects I did not agree with. Not surprising. :o

Interesting. Have you read "The Cloud of Unknowing"?

Animism is like the chicken/egg issue in terms of philosophy. Do we think other beings have spirit, personality, and consciousness because our brains work that way? Or do our brains conceive of this because Nature works this way? As Kay Milton points out in "Loving Nature," belief that other...

I'd guess you could be Quaker even if you don't attend meetings. If you consider yourself Quaker, they'd probably be unlikely to say you aren't. They have always struck me as a pretty inclusive bunch.

Yep, for me, it's about as logical as it gets to have faith that my own experience is meaningful for me. Even if it doesn't quite gravitate to an established religious system, one can maintain faith in one's experience and still be involved in a religious community if one wants comraderie and...

I'm with shawn. Basically, rather than believe something- anything... focus first on what you experience, and then build your belief from there. Remember your experience is limited and likely to change as you grow, so beliefs will change too. Rather than seek faith in something out of a...

:D Made me laugh... @ Alex- To me, you don't seem defensive of any particular religion so much as liking the role of devil's advocate and defending all religions to a certain degree. This defense of religion seems to be more arising out of your frustration (dismay, disgust?) with people's...

No, it isn't. You presume that to fit the definition of transcendence, a concept must fit ALL definitions. This is not how the English language typically works. Generally speaking, one must only fit ONE definition to meet the criteria of using a word. So perhaps you may wish to discuss the...

I'll have a go. Please know, though, that this is my last time with a computer (gasp!) for 2 weeks. I'm off to Oregon to visit family and then on to Nevada for an interfaith peace march. Walking 45 miles out in the desert... so no laptop. :D Can't wait. [/B] OK- so what is it to...

I'm tempted to be flattered. ;)

As I said before, I was interested in the interaction. You say you are not. So I fail to see why you continued beyond stating you were not interested. I am no longer responding to your line of conversation because you said you have no interest in it. Conversation with a disinterested person...

Then stop interacting with me. You could have just said this and been done with it. There... I have demonstrated brevity.

I don't personally believe in a paradisal heaven, either. At least not for myself. Heaven is a state of connection to God, for me. So Heaven is always there, if I choose it. But in terms of some eternal vacation with a mansion and streets paved in gold, no. This isn't my experience. I...

What I'm demonstrating is that Paganism has diverse traditions and beliefs, some of which are not grounded in self-divinity, others of which hold self-divinity as an outcome of God permeating all Nature, and others of which old self-divinity as a core tenet. My point is that (1) Paganism is...

Hey- ya never know! Maybe Brian has seen God! :D On hell- I do believe people create for themselves a hell of sorts- a state of being in which they are disconnected from God, from life force. But I don't believe in a literal place of fiery tormet where devils carry pitchforks and so on...

Ditto. I have seen many things in books for which there is no evidence, experiential or otherwise, that they actually exist. The entire genre of fiction, for example, is grounded in this premise. :) I fail to see how faith in a place of torment is helpful, but to each their own.

[/B] Not semantics, but differences in theo/alogy. You're operating in a system where there is "God" (for Muslims, an absolute)... and then humanity. Nothing much in between. For some Pagans like myself, there is what you call "God" (what I'd term God Herself, the Limitless, etc.) and then...

I meant it as a neutral thing- basically, I am thinking the difference between an active channeling or mediumship- where you have control- versus a passive channeling (what I was calling possession) where you're not in control but rather are "taken over" for a bit. I don't tend to think...