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@ Vajradhara
Many thanks for these cherished facts, and now I have looked at some information about what is meant by the Dharma, & and Sangha, not that I am claiming to be in full control of passing thoughts or passions. I mean that I get the idea. I get the idea of Sangha, though not its particulars. I see the value of the meditations and also why some regimens are more effective than others. I have also looked up the meaning of 'Namaste', and I agree with its meaning. Very beautiful!

@ Seattlegal
I appreciate your conscientious effort. These are exactly what I was looking for.

@ Netti Netti
Completely understand about mentalist headgames and have myself known the right thing and not done it. It seems one could have the whole 'Dharma' and still not be 'Awakened'. I also looked up a second description of 'Prajna' to make sure I absorbed what you meant.
 
Dream said:
It seems one could have the whole 'Dharma' and still not be 'Awakened'.
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"Strictly speaking, there are no enlightened people, there is only enlightened activity."

- Shunryu Suzuki.
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seattlegal said:
Bodhicitta--become compassion embodied.
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Thank you. Compare with Taosti shen....
Shen, equated with “spirit,” “psyche” or “mind,” is a manifestation of the higher nature of human beings. .... Shen presides over the emotions as an all-encompassing awareness or virtues, expressed as wisdom, love, compassion, kindness, generosity, acceptance, forgiveness and tolerance.
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http://www.newworldencyclopedia.org/entry/Jing_Qi_Shen
 
cosine, you broke the grid!

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The cosine of i is.. said:
Hello all! :)
Hi Netti-Netti!
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Hi, nice Quan Yin/Kuan Yin you have there as your
profile picture. Reminds me of this for some reason:

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It is said that the White Tara was born from the tears
shed by Avalokiteshvara.

May you be happy and free of suffering.
 
Netti-Netti said:
I was hoping someone would explain ....
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If I may, the term enlightened activity might be referring to the idea that once awakening happens there isn't a you that is experiencing there is merely the experience therefore no enlightened person, no one there.

The Buddha referred to himself as Tathagata or the One Thus Gone for this reason.
 
Paladin said:
If I may, the term enlightened activity might be referring to the idea that once awakening happens there isn't a you that is experiencing there is merely the experience therefore no enlightened person, no one there.
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Just the experience. Well said.
 
Paladin said:
If I may, the term enlightened activity might be referring to the idea that once awakening happens there isn't a you that is experiencing there is merely the experience therefore no enlightened person, no one there.

The Buddha referred to himself as Tathagata or the One Thus Gone for this reason.
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If you consider seeing the parts that make up the "self," how far will you have to look in order to see them "all?" Wouldn't that also bring on madness and vexation as described in the Acintita Sutta? (Isn't it the Seventh Consciousness, the one that is attached to self, the one that would experience the madness and vexation?)
 
seattlegal said:
If you consider seeing the parts that make up the "self," how far will you have to look in order to see them "all?" Wouldn't that also bring on madness and vexation as described in the Acintita Sutta? (Isn't it the Seventh Consciousness, the one that is attached to self, the one that would experience the madness and vexation?)
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Once you have a taste of this all of that dissolves. Actually, being able to see that the self is so very transitory is really quite refreshing. The story of the salt doll entering the ocean points to this...understanding.
 
Paladin said:
....there isn't a you that is experiencing

... no one there.
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So we need personality tests like the Myers-Briggs when there's nobody home to test?? :eek:


Paladin said:
Actually, being able to see that the self is so very transitory is really quite refreshing.
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Based on Buddhist theory of no-self (Anatman) we could expect a test-reliability approaching zero for the Myers-Briggs. The person taking the test wouldn't be him/herself again the next time they take the test. Each time they take the test, they would have turned into some new variation of an amorphous nonentity, yes?
 
Netti-Netti said:
So we need personality tests like the Myers-Briggs when there's nobody home to test?? :eek:



Based on Buddhist theory of no-self (Anatman) we could expect a test-reliability approaching zero for the Myers-Briggs. The person taking the test wouldn't be him/herself again the next time they take the test. Each time they take the test, they would have turned into some new variation of an amorphous nonentity, yes?
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Nope. You see the personality still exists, there is still a role to play and the show goes on. The Meyers-Briggs, Gardner's theory of multiple intelligences, Maslow, Christianity, Buddhism, Religions, My-Space, Burger-King, Sex shops, record players ad nauseum are all still there, they still are part of the show, the point is, they don't matter like everyone thinks they do.
Nothing matters, yet everything is salient.
Life is happening and it is enjoyable, miserable, depressing, exhilarating wonderful, perfect briliant stillness... outpouring.
 
Netti-Netti said:
Based on Buddhist theory of no-self (Anatman) we could expect a test-reliability approaching zero for the Myers-Briggs. The person taking the test wouldn't be him/herself again the next time they take the test. Each time they take the test, they would have turned into some new variation of an amorphous nonentity, yes?
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No.

Buddhists have personalities, even the enlightened ones.
 
Paladin said:
Life is happening and it is enjoyable, miserable, depressing, exhilarating wonderful, perfect briliant stillness... outpouring.
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Yes, there is an empirical self that is a witness to all these temporary goings on. But there is also an "Absolute, Eternal True Self," the true Buddha Self:
Many venerable saints and scholars have argued for the Self in the past and do so in the present. Great teachers of the Tibetan Nyingma, Kagyu and Sakya schools have and do argue that such a view (i.e. the reality of an essential, deathless Self) is fundamental to the practice of the Buddhist path and the attainment of Enlightenment.
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Dolpopa Sherab Gyaltsen - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

being able to see that the self is so very transitory is really quite refreshing.
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The idea of not being permanently stuck with a suffocating, self-centered, ego-generated self and knowing that I will only cry the tears of love is refreshing, yes.
 
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