Francis king is moving on... adios all!

wil said:
Ya know to me this place is a comfy easy chair, at a local coffee house.
Click to expand...
For me it is more like a bar...... and I am grateful that here I am not obliged to get wasted every time I would like a banter...:cool:
 
I can relate to how you feel Francis. Of course, I've been saying all along that the trouble with paradise and tranquility is boredom. But nobody listens to me.

I wish you well wherever the road takes you, and the door is always open here. Let's not call it a goodby, let's call it a "see ya later."
 
According to one psychoanalyst, Dr Ralph Greenson, boredom is a symptom of not wanting to learn something new.

I'd say it could also indicate a loss of hope regarding the miraculous/ stupendous arrival of a person or event that is supposed to jump start the spirit, renew the earth, turn things around, and give life meaning again.

Historically, declaring war has been seen as a possible solution to the problem of boredom.
 
Netti-Netti said:
Historically, declaring war has been seen as a possible solution to the problem of boredom.
Click to expand...

Seems the longest running, or at least the most energetic, threads are those where opinions vary the most. If you equate war with opinion then they, opinions, do alleviate boredom. Historically war is caused by individuals that are far from bored, so I would question the central tenet of the statement.
 
Tao_Equus said:
Historically war is caused by individuals that are far from bored, so I would question the central tenet of the statement.
Click to expand...
You might enjoy this paper from the University of Oxford about how aggression is experienced as rewarding and pleasurable. It's getting into the neuroscience of negative emotion...
When someone overcomes their moral qualms and commits an aggressive act, the ingrained expectation of punishment triggers the release of stress hormones. If, however, no punishment materialises, the resulting surprise and relief will be experienced as intensely pleasurable, and the effects of the stress hormones as euphoric rather than unpleasant. This rush of positive sensations, similar to that provided by certain drugs and probably activating similar brain regions, can be an addictive incentive to commit more otherising acts. It may help to explain the ecstatic sense of
participation in group activity, particularly transgressive activity, which Saul Friedlander calls Rausch and Elias Canetti ‘the discharge.’
​
http://www.physiol.ox.ac.uk/~ket/Taylor_2006_FMCS_A_177215_O.pdf


Based on the author's discussion of how humans magnify the sense of threat in others, we can see how people are actually setting the stage for their own euphoria, which counteracts boredom. At least some of that enjoyment derives from (1) a boost to an individual’s sense of power, (2) an internal sense of righteousness, and (3) group solidarity generated in connection with the cause of counteracting a perceived threat. It's easy to see how it is that some people just like to be angry. It feels good. (Where's Paladin when you need him?)

You can also see how conflict between individuals, groups, and countries is maintained by motives that have no real practical value other than to avoid a sense of powerless or feelings of boredom.

Ideological discourse by which the target group is otherized (made out to be a bad influence) is in a sense the promise of triumph - a pep talk, if you will. Maybe we can find some Hitler speeches that were intended to turn the German people gainst a perceived enemy.

Since this is in the "spiritual beliefs area) I would add that people like Jesus and Siddhartha Gautama (Buddha) try to get people to pay attention to these primitive processes through prayer and meditation, and then re-orient to spiritual emotions like compassion and forgiveness, a desire to share beautiful heavenly things with each other, sense of gratitude, reverence, and such.

Some of this is predicated on becoming detached toward negative feelings and short-circuiting the negative motivations. (Buddhists would tell you they are delusional emotions and they practice meditation by which they make friends with negative impulses in order to diffuse them and by which they light up part of the brain that deal with feelings of love). It can also involve managing the tendency toward immediate reward with the hope for future reward (e.g., reunion with Brahman, bodily resurrection and Jesus' return, Allah being pleased toward a person who is on the path of righteousness and rewarding the believer with Paradise, and so on).

Sorry to ramble. Kind of in a hurry. Have good one.


PS. Deconstructing religious concepts doesn't mean they aren't true.
 
Sorry to hear that you're moving on, Francis - I know what you mean, forums ebb and flow like tides, and I'm having trouble making time to participate at present as well - got to focus my energies on keeping the business running.

However, your profile is your own - you can disable it if you wish, but I really don't think there's a way to delete your individual account from my end.

So if you wish to stop visiting, you're welcome to change your password or email address to disable the account - but if not, the door always remains open. :)
 
I said:
However, your profile is your own - you can disable it if you wish, but I really don't think there's a way to delete your individual account from my end.
Click to expand...

This reminds me of the Facebook controversy, when some members decided to leave and were told that their profiles would stay on file. I think Facebook has since reversed this policy.

I also love the technocratic side of this issue, "we do not have that capability to remove your profile". The software program is in charge we just do what it allows :D.

Of course it has nothing to do with trying to keep a large number of members listed !!

(You are such a trouble maker Avi :D)
 
It looks like I am behind on this one. Once a Facebook member, always a Facebook member (this is sort of Orwellian). I guess the same for IO:

FOXNews.com - Facebook Membership May Be Forever - Science News | Science & Technology | Technology News

So participating in forums, now obeys the Second Law of Thermodynamics :D:

A summary of the second law was given by C.P. Snow:
  1. You cannot win. (energy and matter are conserved, so you cannot get something for nothing.)
  2. You cannot break even (there is always an increase in entropy so you cannot even return to the same state.)
  3. You cannot leave the game. (there is no way to escape rules 1 and 2 because it is impossible to reach absolute zero (see third law)
The Second Law of Thermodynamics
Click to expand...
 
Facebook collects a load of personal information on its users - didn't they sell the data on at one point to marketing companies??

Either way, the only records I have on members of the forums is an email address and an IP address. And the email address can be changed. Any other information can be edited or deleted by members, and I have no back records of any such information once removed.

Hope that helps. :)
 
Good night and good luck, Francis. Move on we must, especially if you aren't getting anything more out of this forum. The biggest redeeming value that announcing you intentions to leave is that we won't have to wonder what happened to you. We've seen several forumites pass away over the last few years: InLove, Jack, Flowperson, Prober. We are only fortunate that there was someone who had knowledge of their passing and informed us of such.
 
Dondi said:
The biggest redeeming value that announcing you intentions to leave is that we won't have to wonder what happened to you. We've seen several forumites pass away over the last few years: InLove, Jack, Flowperson, Prober. We are only fortunate that there was someone who had knowledge of their passing and informed us of such.
Click to expand...

Just a thought . . .

Francis King is in a dark, isolated room, writhing in shock and horror while suffering a cardiac arrest. She wants to scream and call for help, but she can't!:eek:

I wonder what the rest of you were thinking when I "disappeared" for a while.
 
Saltmeister said:
Just a thought . . .

Francis King is in a dark, isolated room, writhing in shock and horror while suffering a cardiac arrest. She wants to scream and call for help, but she can't!:eek:.......
Click to expand...

.......Even worse than that......she crawls to her computer, types in ..ppllleeeaaassee....hhheeellllpppp...mmmeeeee... and hits send.... the email goes to IO.com...and the response....from...the....forum.....


Vote for Dr. Ron Paul !!!!! :D:D
 
Saltmeister said:
Just a thought . . .

Francis King is in a dark, isolated room, writhing in shock and horror while suffering a cardiac arrest. She wants to scream and call for help, but she can't!:eek:
Click to expand...

Assuming she has time to create another IO account, what can we do anyways? She's better to call 911 (or whatever emergency number is available in her country).

Saltmeister said:
I wonder what the rest of you were thinking when I "disappeared" for a while.
Click to expand...

YOU disappeared for a while? Huh, I didn't notice. :p
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top