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In schools today many children are forced into a specific religion or faith, for example. im only 6 years out of primary school and i remember quite clearly that for day one we where encouraged to be christian. at least once a week a minister would come and preach. In terms of religious servises we had no choice we had to go, and often it was just long speaches from a minister. To forse the beliefs on young children is imoral is it not? how is a six year old going to choose their belifes just because a man in a suit told them. surley schools would be better to not preach any religion. they should teach varrious viewpoints from a veriaty of religions rather than (in my schools case) christianity. if the children so desire that they want to partake in any religeous assemblys then it should be purley optional. Being in my last year of highschool we still have to go to religious assemblys which is disgracefull if im honest. Im quite clearly an athiest and the school now that i and much of the school are athiests and yet we still have to partake. i have no problem with them having them i just wish that they didnt force it on thoughs of us that have no interest in the subject. and then are punished because of it.

My little sister is now in primary school and im pretty sure its still the same.

Do you think that in primary education religion should be taught no preached? or is it fair that the impressionable youth should be preached to by a single religion?
 
where I went to primary school in the uk was like that singing hyms every morning, never did me any harm though, but I doubt that it is like that these days.

as far as i know the only schools like that now in the UK are religious schools for specific faiths where parents send their children for that very purpose, that said I dont agree with teaching children religion, they can make that choice when they are older IMO.
 
Sam-i-am said:
In schools today many children are forced into a specific religion or faith, for example. im only 6 years out of primary school and i remember quite clearly that for day one we where encouraged to be christian. at least once a week a minister would come and preach. In terms of religious servises we had no choice we had to go, and often it was just long speaches from a minister. To forse the beliefs on young children is imoral is it not? how is a six year old going to choose their belifes just because a man in a suit told them. surley schools would be better to not preach any religion. they should teach varrious viewpoints from a veriaty of religions rather than (in my schools case) christianity. if the children so desire that they want to partake in any religeous assemblys then it should be purley optional. Being in my last year of highschool we still have to go to religious assemblys which is disgracefull if im honest. Im quite clearly an athiest and the school now that i and much of the school are athiests and yet we still have to partake. i have no problem with them having them i just wish that they didnt force it on thoughs of us that have no interest in the subject. and then are punished because of it.

My little sister is now in primary school and im pretty sure its still the same.

Do you think that in primary education religion should be taught no preached? or is it fair that the impressionable youth should be preached to by a single religion?
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Sam, I think a primary education should be taught using brute force :D. Where I grew up, if I did not know the answer to a question, the Rabbi wrapped my knuckles with a ruler, as it should be :D !

Should children be taught about only one religion ? Nah, lets confuse them right from the start and teach them this interfaith stuff right from the beginning :D !

Also, very nice to learn more about you, Sam, a Scottish, atheist, :D I see, a young boy like yourself (according to your description above, you seem to be a mere 16 year old "lad" :D), so, we are going to have to keep you away for that cute little iddy biddy baby, Mort :D.
 
I think that parents should be able to bring their own children up in their religion if they want. I see no problem with private schools teaching children about a particular religion (or many religions).

Where I would draw the line is when schools are used as a way to indoctrinate the children of parents who do not want this.


eudaimonia,

Mark
 
welcome sam i am, where in Scotland do you hail from ?[me North East].

Yes there is an indoctrination of Christianity, stages to be adhered to so as to be able to understand meaning at the next level, not so much the festivals/traditions as the values and beliefs and particularly for moral education more than anything else, to prepare for society. You have always been able to withdraw from religion needing the parents consent though; however for a while now it has been mandatory to teach 2 more religions [which can include humanism, depending on teacher and at secondary level] as well as Christianity, but Scotland has always prided itself on its 'assemblies' echoing the church ones [bearing in mind schools long ago were probably run by the churches]. Here we have a large number of catholic only schools where teachers are taught to teach specifically that tradition.
Shawn is right, religious history is an important topic, as are the philosophical issues surrounding any belief system. Hopefully there will be more critical thinking and less rote learning in the future, but that requires smaller class sizes. There is a crisis in teaching at the moment.
 
I think the use of Christian focus in UK schools helps turn most kinds off from Christianity. :)
 
Sam-i-am said:
In schools today many children are forced into a specific religion or faith
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How many? Where? Which schools? I smell a prank.

im only 6 years out of primary school and i remember quite clearly that for day one we where encouraged to be christian. at least once a week a minister would come and preach.
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What was the school? Where was the school? This NEVER happened in any public (government-funded) school that I have attended, nor any such school my children nor their mother attended, nor any such school my sister attended, nor any such school my co-workers from the USA attended. I call "obvious troll".
 
where in Scotland do you hail from ?[me North East].
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im a west coaster myself.:D

Brian has a good point though alot of children do turn away from chistianity because of the constant preaching of it. Though that doesnt chnage the fact that in state schools children are still being taught only one religion.

What was the school? Where was the school? This NEVER happened in any public (government-funded) school that I have attended, nor any such school my children nor their mother attended, nor any such school my sister attended, nor any such school my co-workers from the USA attended. I call "obvious troll".
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Well west coast of Scotland and English midlands are bothplaces i have been to school in and in both they have christianity as a part of the ciriculum more so in scotland. and bare in mind iim still in highschool education and weve allready ben told we have to attend th christmas servise (plans to skive off that day)

I think a primary education should be taught using brute force
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Might be a plan. Would make the first years more respectfull, as it stands most of them are yobs :rolleyes:

mere 16 year old "lad"
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Il have you know that i am almost 18. and looking forward to it. going to celebrate in a very Scotish way

Pluss im Tao's son. he got me into this website i find its quite usefull for when thiinking about stuff before doing my Religeos Moral and Philisophical studys homework
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I think the use of Christian focus in UK schools helps turn most kinds off from Christianity. :)
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i didnt think that they were allowed to do that anymore accept in faith schools ?
 
GlorytoGod said:
i didnt think that they were allowed to do that anymore accept in faith schools ?
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It used to be common, but in more "civilised" areas they tend to be more multi-faith focused.

Scotland - especially the Highlands - still has strong Christian fundamentalist roots (they only just allowed Sunday ferry sailing to the Outer Hebrides, and against massive local objections for not observing Sunday as a rest day) - coupled with a relative lack of cultural diviersity, means the kids still get a lot of the old traditional Christian schooling (hymn singing in assemblies, church readings every Christmas, etc).
 
Religious studies are good in school because; Children can then see the horrors and massacres and corruptions and greeds all in the name of a divine being/goal, being a child, they are less likley to practice the same mistakes.... Hopefully... And I mean by religious studies going into depths and seeing what religion has "brought to the table"....
 
Sam-i-am said:
Pluss im Tao's son.​
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:eek:

he got me into this website i find its quite usefull for when thiinking about stuff before doing my Religeos Moral and Philisophical studys homework
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As an atheist, I am sure you are very pleased to have religious and morals homework :D !!​
 
Actually i realy enjoy RMPS at higher level, its more focused around philosophy than religeon itself. we did buddhisim as our religeon this year and we are doing medical ethics and morality just now. So its not like it was back in second year when all we ever did was christianity.. i have nothing against christianity it just gets boring after a while :p
 
Sam-i-am said:

Pluss im Tao's son. he got me into this website i find its quite usefull for when thiinking about stuff before doing my Religeos Moral and Philisophical studys homework
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Really? and you've chosen to do a higher in all that thinking, you must take after your father:). However a word of advice, if you want to catch up on his writing skills you MUST brush up on your spelling;)
 
I said:
It used to be common, but in more "civilised" areas they tend to be more multi-faith focused.

Scotland - especially the Highlands - still has strong Christian fundamentalist roots (they only just allowed Sunday ferry sailing to the Outer Hebrides, and against massive local objections for not observing Sunday as a rest day) - coupled with a relative lack of cultural diviersity, means the kids still get a lot of the old traditional Christian schooling (hymn singing in assemblies, church readings every Christmas, etc).
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are you saying that the Scotish Highlands are uncivilized ?

As for Sunday I remember when most shops were closed on a Sunday and IMO it was a good thing not for any religious reasons but its just nice for everyone to have a rest a chill out day, even God had one of those :rolleyes:

Yeah I got all that in my primary school hymn singing a stuff at the local Church, never did me any harm :) although I despised it at the time at least I thought I did.
 
However a word of advice, if you want to catch up on his writing skills you MUST brush up on your spelling;)
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:D need to get spellchecker working on my browser. it seems to ignore ther type box on this site
 
Wow it realy is a empy place. Explains why everyones crazy. And the lack of cultural diversaty. In the local town there is one indian family and they run a wee stuff store (couldn't work out what to call it) Directly after the Glasgow airport attack they had to close the shop for almost a month because off all the abuse they where recieving and all the bricks they where given. mostly through the front window.
 
GlorytoGod said:
As for Sunday I remember when most shops were closed on a Sunday and IMO it was a good thing not for any religious reasons but its just nice for everyone to have a rest a chill out day, even God had one of those :rolleyes:
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You... Don't have to go to the shops on a Sunday... Just because they're open, you know?
 
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