Satan and his fallen angels

[donnann]

What makes you think this? We are literally called elohim in scripture. What makes you think that we are a different breed than angels? The only difference between unfallen angels and us is that we have inherited death. But, for those who are alive in Christ death has no sting, nor victory. Again, this is simply my view, donnann. You don't have to believe it, bro.

I didnt say a different BREED. I know I am using a movie but if I dont you wont get what I am saying In the movie the 5th element when the engineer talks about the female he says its dna but has more nano groups simply MORE of them with infinite genetic knowledge. I hope this explains what I have been trying to tell you.This more of them is the difference between elohim and man.

Fallen angels lives are measured in eternities so it doesnt mean they cannot die just like man has been. Elohim, not fallen are infinite beings they will never die.

 

[donnann]

So .... I've been thinking again! This time about my position on what makes one an adversary to God. What I once thought to be imperfections, has now turned into something much more sinister.

Scripture tells us Satan and his fallen angels were cast to the earth -- Does this suggest that Satan roams the earth as an individual and that his minions walk among mankind?

What if ... scripture suggests something completely different? Scripture tells us that we are but dust and ashes. We were created from the dust of the ground according to scripture. The serpent (Who represents Satan) was cursed to consume the dust of the ground for the rest of his days, so could it be that Satan (Our carnal desires?) was cursed to consume mankind who were made from the dust of the ground?

I think "Satan" is a metaphor for that part of man that in opposition to both us and God, the part of man that wishes to rule and control. We (Mankind) are the fallen ones, cast out of heaven (Eden/paradise) because we submitted to Satan (The adversary) In us.

Humans by and large are consumed by selfish ambition, which leads many to attempt to control others and the world we live in by force. Could Satan then simply be the part of mankind's nature that is disobedient to Gods will, that part of us that is in opposition to us, God, and Gods love?

Many have certainly become the servants of their carnal desires, where they attempt to rule over others and the world we live in. If Satan is in fact our carnal desires, this would in effect make carnal man servants of Satan, to whom many have pledged their allegiance, defying God and living in opposition to His love and will for us.

We are called gods "elohiym" (Or angels) in scripture for a reason, I believe this is so we might realize "who" we are, and what we need to do to make things right. Mankind is on the fast track to destruction unless we surrender ourselves to God and His love, forsaking that part in us that is in opposition to God (Our carnal nature) which I believe to be Satan (The adversary).


GK

Satan represents the lies about god and the kingdom mof heaven whether it be on earth or outside. The devil is the opposing things to god....god is love the devil is hate....god is compassion the devil is the absence of it taking pleasure in others pain. I think you will agree with me on this.

 

[donnann]

Satan represents the lies about god and the kingdom mof heaven whether it be on earth or outside. The devil is the opposing things to god....god is love the devil is hate....god is compassion the devil is the absence of it taking pleasure in others pain. I think you will agree with me on this.

Especially since its also manifest here on earth.

 

[donnann]

What makes you think this? We are literally called elohim in scripture. What makes you think that we are a different breed than angels? The only difference between unfallen angels and us is that we have inherited death. But, for those who are alive in Christ death has no sting, nor victory. Again, this is simply my view, donnann. You don't have to believe it, bro.

My spouse told me about a video he watched where someone was literally cutting someones head off that showed the opposite ....the devil stuff. Not only a total disregard for life but the opposite of compassion and definately hate. I refused to watch it.

 

[Gatekeeper]

My spouse told me about a video he watched where someone was literally cutting someones head off that showed the opposite ....the devil stuff. Not only a total disregard for life but the opposite of compassion and definately hate. I refused to watch it.

You're a sista! My apologies! I also heard about that video and like you, I too refused to watch it. As I recall, it happened in the Middle East. Yes, there are many whom have pledged their allegiance to the evil within. I don't believe in a literal Satan, but rather that Satan is the part of man that is in opposition to life and love.


This element to our being virtually consumes many people, leading many to commit horrendous crimes against humanity. I was once told that if a man wanted to see the Devil that they only need to look in the mirror. I think we were were born in the image of God, and then the god of this world kinda takes us over, whether a little or a lot. Far too many allow this adversary to life and love control them.


We ultimately choose who we serve, and what we embrace,though. It just happens that many choose to serve their carnal self (The god of this world) as opposed to the God of life and love, which is why we experience evil on this earth. It is mankind who stands in opposition to God. We create our own hell. Mankind lost the paradise they once knew because mankind catered to their selfish, wicked, and and self-serving desires instead of allowing the Spirit of life (Love) guide them.


Many have become children of disobedience, children of destruction, children of Satan because they not only neglect love, but also because they have placed themselves as god on earth, attempting to rule over other living beings, when we ought to be good stewards and caretakers, allowing love (The Spirit of life) to rule in our hearts.


I simply believe that Satan lives in the heart of man, which is why it is necessary to allow love to change us from the inside out. We are required to lose our own lives, and be born again of the Spirit of life, allowing it to rule in us. Otherwise, we get what we have today, which is a world under the so called rule of mankind.

 

[chakraman]

http://www.factsbehindfaith.com/Satan-astrology.htmlknowing that satan comes from saturn, or so i'm told, i put both words into a google search and this is what came up.

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"Saturn is the Planet of Materialism, Power and Worldliness
Satan, the Devil, is always portrayed with the horns, cloven hooves and goaty legs which reflect Saturn’s nature as lord of Capricorn, the Goat. This does not brand Capricorns : with the Sun in this Sign, they are often more enlightened about this materialistic spirit.

Saturn is not the largest planet but astrologically Earth is ruled by the same spirit of materialism, money and power. Saturn’s spirit has an overwhelming influence on us."



and then you have lucifer, the lightbringer, planet venus or the morning star.


and then unfortunately you get the demonisation of such names and concepts.

 

[donnann]

knowing that satan comes from saturn, or so i'm told, i put both words into a google search and this is what came up.

quote

"Saturn is the Planet of Materialism, Power and Worldliness
Satan, the Devil, is always portrayed with the horns, cloven hooves and goaty legs which reflect Saturn’s nature as lord of Capricorn, the Goat. This does not brand Capricorns : with the Sun in this Sign, they are often more enlightened about this materialistic spirit.

Saturn is not the largest planet but astrologically Earth is ruled by the same spirit of materialism, money and power. Saturn’s spirit has an overwhelming influence on us."



and then you have lucifer, the lightbringer, planet venus or the morning star.


and then unfortunately you get the demonisation of such names and concepts.

Actually the name for the angel is lucifel hes a male venus represents the female he is jelious of the female thinking hes more beautiful than she

 

[donnann]

Actually the name for the angel is lucifel hes a male venus represents the female he is jelious of the female thinking hes more beautiful than she

Hatred or jeliously of one opposite is a form of self hatred or lack of self worth.

 

[donnann]

Actually the name for the angel is lucifel hes a male venus represents the female he is jelious of the female thinking hes more beautiful than she

When you know the truth every planet and star has a good meaning

 

[Gatekeeper]

http://www.factsbehindfaith.com/Satan-astrology.htmlknowing that satan comes from saturn, or so i'm told, i put both words into a google search and this is what came up.

quote

"Saturn is the Planet of Materialism, Power and Worldliness
Satan, the Devil, is always portrayed with the horns, cloven hooves and goaty legs which reflect Saturn’s nature as lord of Capricorn, the Goat. This does not brand Capricorns : with the Sun in this Sign, they are often more enlightened about this materialistic spirit.

Saturn is not the largest planet but astrologically Earth is ruled by the same spirit of materialism, money and power. Saturn’s spirit has an overwhelming influence on us."



and then you have lucifer, the lightbringer, planet venus or the morning star.


and then unfortunately you get the demonisation of such names and concepts.

I am a Capricorn, hehe! I enjoyed your post chakraman and I find it curious how names and concepts are often demonized. Light bearer doesn't seem at all demonic, but rather a thing to be desired, no? Jesus is also referred to as the morning star, but then Lucifer has negative connotations. I have often pondered the relation between the two.

 

[donnann]

I am a Capricorn, hehe! I enjoyed your post chakraman and I find it curious how names and concepts are often demonized. Light bearer doesn't seem at all demonic, but rather a thing to be desired, no? Jesus is also referred to as the morning star, but then Lucifer has negative connotations. I have often pondered the relation between the two.

I agree with you and the concepts. I do get tired of the female always being replaced with the male in the texts though.

 

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Seed of Satan: Genesis 3:15, The First Prophecy


Let's start from the beginning.

1. We have a "serpent"

2. We have a seed, in fact two. (Gen3:15)

3. We have interest in demons mixing seed with humans. (Gen6)

4. We have two seeds identified, good and evil.

5. We have mention of the seed being brought into a human lineage, the good seed. (Gen12;Gen22)

6. We have the growth of that lineage to Abraham, Isaac and Jacob (Israel).

7. The seed, Jesus Christ arrives. (Luke 1:54)

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Jesus Christ and John the Baptist, Master Detectives
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Now we have the seed (Jesus Christ) and his forerunner (John the Baptist) BOTH identify for us some stunning characteristics of "Satan's seed"

1. They are serpents. (Luke3:7-9; Matt23:33)

2. They have a marked Judgment: Gehenna. (Matt23:15;23:33)

3. They come in the form of "men of God", and "children of Abraham", but are counterfeit, fake.

Then Jesus Christ takes the analysis and revelation of this seed even further:

1. Though claiming God and Abraham as their father, they actually have a quite different father; Satan. (John 8:44)

(John 8:44) . . .YOU are from YOUR father the Devil, and YOU wish to do the desires of YOUR father. That one was a manslayer when he began, and he did not stand fast in the truth, because truth is not in him. When he speaks the lie, he speaks according to his own disposition, because he is a liar and the father of [the lie]. 

A. They are therefore also liars, thieves, and murderers in reality.

2. They are also called fake "Jews"

3. They also have their own "house"

(Revelation 2:9) . . .the blasphemy by those who say they themselves are Jews, and yet they are not but are a synagogue of Satan. 


These ones are also connected to the "money changers" and "cave of robbers" (John2:13, Luke19:46) which when Jehovah abandoned the temple soon took over for good (Rev2:9), the occult fake Jewish bankers of that time and in time today, directly connected to Jesus death by Satanic collusion as children of the Devil, directly connected to Judas betrayal as a foremost example of the "son of destruction" the seed of Satan.

Where are they today, as we see Jesus considered them very real?



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Jesus Christ's Death - Dual Significance: Two Ultimate Meanings.
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What do we know about Jesus death?

1. We know he was a sacrifice offered by God for mankind, by Jesus own offering of himself as that sacrifice of perfect blood, body his perfect spirit.

2. We know Jesus by freewill gave his life up, under circumstances which he had full power to relieve himself of by God's power, his own power and angelic power such as the 12 legions of angels. (Jesus truly delivered himself up, willingly.)

3. This sacrificial offering was a complete emptying of all power which the Christ had for the service of the will of his father, not himself, to the death and under false charges and public reproach.

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But who was doing the murdering? (It was not God. This was not a suicide mission.)

1. The chief architect of this murder was Satan employing his seed, he is the originator. (1John3:12)

2. The chief agency from that conspiracy was the rulers of Israel, those who conspired over time to do away with Jesus (John 8:44). 

A. In cooperation with a Gentile military judicial system, the Romans, a religious and secular conviction and sentencing.

B. This also pictures complete worldly guilt, not just Israel's rulership, but also world rulership. 

(The typical collusion for "super-power": Satanic seed religious order, administrative and judicial collusion, and military force)

3. The human agent of the initiation of the events, was the betrayer Judas, who was entered by Satan as his seed.

Big Question:

Are we to gather that the religious leaders of Israel had no contact with Satan. That there was no guidance or covenant? That this foremost act of Satan worship was not for some reward?

No.

1. Infiltration: Much evidence points to the fact that the first destruction of Jerusalem had much to do with Satan's infiltration of that house through the religious leaders, and the second destruction of Jerusalem is related to that continuation of dealings with Satan and the demons.

2. Objective: Much evidence points to the infiltration of Satan into the key religious rulership in the house of Israel also in Jesus time, resulting in the ultimate of transgression against that house, direct blood-guilt against God himself in the murder of his only firstborn son. 

A. Since this fake counterfeit religious rulership has no faith in the sacrifice, therefore that blood which saves many from God's standpoint, is for the opposite effect against those who murdered for reward, the preservation and extension of their own evil system of worship, to them it is great blood guilt, convicting Satan's seed legally for eventual termination.

B. At this time, the religious house of Israel truly became the house of Satan's ultimate sin, and their own.


The Ultimate Sacrifice:

For those who put faith in that sacrifice of God's son, God has accepted that faith as being free from the guilt of what the murder of God's son on earth will mean in due time, divine rightful vengeance of that blood. a covering sacrifice or a indelible sin, people will be deciding now, and for 1000 years to come.


Satan Defeated (Heb2:14):

Satan was ignorant of the full meaning of the death of Jesus, and was not attempting to orchestrate man's deliverance from sin, no, he was murdering the son of God, from his own standpoint of darkness and was put in checkmate by God, by Jesus willingness to be the pawn.


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Some Big Questions:

So what have the "Pharisees", this occult counterfeit Jewish Religious Order received from the murder of Jesus in the service and worship of Satan?

Did the seed of Satan perish at the destruction of Jerusalem in 70CE?

Did this seed of Satan receive a form of world rulership, similar to the one Satan offered Jesus?

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Court Date Armageddon (Rev1:7):
The issue will be what it was then, and what it is now, an issue of Kingdom, God's Kingdom vs. Satan's attempt.

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I am proving that Jesus death, was the ultimate turning point for mankind for good and for evil.

It has established the legal precedent as to which side of the issue of that death a human will stand, for repentance, obedience and everlasting life, or for continuation on the course to death, and without repentance to the full the Lake of Fire, eternal extermination.

The issue will also be raised as Satan's release from abyss, at that time Jesus blood will not be the issue, each individuals blood though, will be, a true freewill time of decision, based on the same issues of selfishness which Satan raised, and the finale of a long story, to the final execution of Satan by legal established right before man and angel, for this final terminating purge will be in both realms, and will completely remove all traces of Satan's seed in spirit and fleshly realms.


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Satan the bible perspective of him and his "government".
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Let's analyze this Satan person from the bible.

1. Satan is an angel. An anointed Cherub.

(Ezekiel 28:14) . . .You are the anointed cherub that is covering, and I have set you. On the holy mountain of God you proved to be.. . .

2. Though originating with the sons of the true God, he has fallen from the truth, becoming a demon angel.

(Job 1:6) . . .Now it came to be the day when the sons of the [true] God entered to take their station before Jehovah, and even Satan proceeded to enter right among them.

3. Satan is the original liar.

(John 8:44) . . .That one was a manslayer when he began, and he did not stand fast in the truth, because truth is not in him. When he speaks the lie, he speaks according to his own disposition, because he is a liar and the father of [the lie].


(1 John 3:8) . . .the Devil has been sinning from [the] beginning. . . .

4. By that Satanic lie man has been compromised into powers under Satan, sin, slavery and death:

(Hebrews 2:14) . . .Therefore, since the “young children” are sharers of blood and flesh, he also similarly partook of the same things, that through his death he might bring to nothing the one having the means to cause death, that is, the Devil;

(Romans 5:17) 17 For if by the trespass of the one [man] death ruled as king . . .



5. There by the name Satan the Devil, the resisting slanderer was self given.


6. Satan received the death sentence directly for this action, it was an internally motivated freewill attack on God by principle.

A. The first prophecy in the bible states Satan's execution will result from the vanquishing seed, Jesus Christ.

(Genesis 3:15) . . .He will bruise you in the head . . .

7. Satan has a seed in heavenly places and on earth:

(Genesis 3:15) . . .And I shall put enmity between you and the woman and between your seed and her seed. He will bruise you in the head and you will bruise him in the heel.” 8. Satan is a temporary world ruler:

(1 John 5:19) . . .the whole world is lying in the [power of the] wicked one.

A. Cast into abyss then destruction:

(Revelation 20:1-3) . . .And I saw an angel coming down out of heaven with the key of the abyss and a great chain in his hand. 2 And he seized the dragon, the original serpent, who is the Devil and Satan, and bound him for a thousand years. 3 And he hurled him into the abyss and shut [it] and sealed [it] over him, that he might not mislead the nations anymore . . .


(John 12:31) . . .Now there is a judging of this world; now the ruler of this world will be cast out.

(Revelation 20:10) . . .And the Devil who was misleading them was hurled into the lake of fire. . .

B. Judged:
(John 16:11) . . .the ruler of this world has been judged.

9. But Satan is ruling by means of a power structure over this earth:

(Ephesians 6:11-12)...stand firm against the machinations of the Devil; 12 because we have a wrestling, not against blood and flesh, but against the governments, against the authorities, against the world rulers of this darkness, against the wicked spirit forces in the heavenly places. 


A. The symbolic seven heads of Satan also have a direct correlation with human governance of the planet:

(Revelation 12:3-4) ...a great fiery-colored dragon, with seven heads and ten horns and upon its heads seven diadems; 4 and its tail drags a third of the stars of heaven, and it hurled them down to the earth. . . .


(Revelation 13:1) . . .And I saw a wild beast ascending out of the sea, with ten horns and seven heads, . . .

B. So by this invisible government of Satan and the demons in an organized governmental authority over earth, must also have the counterpart on earth, and how do we know for certain?


C. Because Satan does not give the power for free, and the power is his to give:

(Luke 4:5) 

Satan: “I will give you all this authority and the glory...to whomever I wish I give it." 

D. The price is worship, working for the Devil in service:


(Luke 4:7) 

Satan: " if you do an act of worship before me..."


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We know some of the Pharisees worked for Satan as his children:

(John 8:44) . . .YOU are from YOUR father the Devil, and YOU wish to do the desires of YOUR father.. . .

And Judas as well:

(John 13:2) . . .the Devil having already put it into the heart of Judas Is·car′i·ot. . .

(Luke 22:3) . . .But Satan entered into Judas. . .


That religious order was abandoned by God (Mat23:38), and taken in by Satan in that seed:

(Revelation 2:9) . . .the blasphemy by those who say they themselves are Jews, and yet they are not but are a synagogue of Satan.
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But at that time no sacrifice was available with the above stipulation, the Mosaic system was not in accurate truth yet.

Judas appears to have been from a particular set, which was destined for Gehenna from the get go:

(Matthew 3:7). . .When he caught sight of many of the Pharisees and Sadducees coming to the baptism, he said to them: “YOU offspring of vipers, who has intimated to YOU to flee from the coming wrath? 

If you notice, John was mocking the children of satan (John8:44)

and Jesus pointed to a statement which may be more real than it is often accepted to be:

(Matthew 23:31-33). . .Therefore YOU are bearing witness against yourselves that YOU are sons of those who murdered the prophets. 32 Well, then, fill up the measure of YOUR forefathers. 33 “Serpents, offspring of vipers, how are YOU to flee from the judgment of Gehenna? 

So it does not take much imagination that these are Satan's seed, and had been involved in the Devil worship in Jerusalem even in the times of Isaiah, Micah, and Jeremiah among other prophets who confronted that seed on occasion, for it is not systemic, but present throughout the Jewish history:

(John 8:43-44) 43 Why is it YOU do not know what I am speaking? Because YOU cannot listen to my word. 44 YOU are from YOUR father the Devil, and YOU wish to do the desires of YOUR father.. . .

They did not know what Jesus was speaking in truth, because they could not.

We know by Nicodemus example and others, not all the religious groups associated with Judaism were Satanic seed, but some had definitely infiltrated to murder God's son, and Jesus ID'd them as counterfeits:

(Revelation 2:9). . .the blasphemy by those who say they themselves are Jews, and yet they are not but are a synagogue of Satan. 

Since that was AFTER the second Jerusalem destruction of 70CE, it shows that element continued to survive. They are present in that same lineage today, and have spread to others:

(1 John 3:8). . .He who carries on sin originates with the Devil, because the Devil has been sinning from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was made manifest, namely, to break up the works of the Devil.

We may recall also how bad this seed infiltration was allowed to become when Noah's world was purged for good reason.

So that seed is out there, and at it's top interface to satan it is ruling the world.

Satan's Invisible Government (Eph6:12)

Seed of Satan: Where? - Topix

Armageddon is Different than the Great Tribulation? Part 1 | bibleresearchfiles

 

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Bible Seed Systems (Genesis 3:15 - The First Prophecy) 

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What do we know about this "seed" symbol from real seeds on earth?

1. It is "planted", it is "watered", it "grows".

2. It is a pattern which becomes according to it's individual master design.

3. The symbol is referenced in the first biblical prophecy:

***(Genesis 3:15).."And I shall put enmity between you and the woman and between your seed and her seed. He will bruise you in the head and you will bruise him in the heel."


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What can we gather from these two "seeds"?

1. They would be representations of two powers, from super origins of God and Satan; there are two "seeds" identified, the truth and the lie, clearly related to the Edenic sin.

2 They would become present undeniably within the human system, at enmity, warring with each other through out human history (Eph6:12).

3. They would have a ruling identification in human systems since Adam, and would render injury to each other, Satan's "seed" injury is eternally fatal, crushed "he will crush you in the head"; God's "seed" was "bruised in the heel". (Rom16:20)

4. Satan's intelligence "head" is involved with the development of his "seed's" evil purpose. (Rev12:3; Eph6:12)

5. Satan's "head" would be crushed (Gen3:15; Num24:17; Rom16:20; Heb2:14), and the seven heads of his Dragon/Wildbeast power structure over earth (Rev12:3) would also be crushed (Dan2:44).

6. The "seed" of God is identified as a male, "he" (Luke1:31; Isa66:7; Rev12).

7. God's "seed" performs God's will, Satan's "seed" is opposed to this will for his own.

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What more do we know about God's "seed"?

1. God would bring the "seed" through Abraham's lineage by a promise and an oath. (Gen12, Gen22).

2. The "seed" would mean a blessing of earth's national groups; "nations of the earth", and the "families of the ground"; (Gen12, Gen22).

3. The curse of Adam would be lifted by this "seed's" power from God. (Rev22:3)

4. The "seed" would give birth to a human nation, and a spiritual spirit nation. (Rev12:2; Gal6:15,16; 1Pet2:9)

5. The "seed" became in primary form Jesus Christ, the foremost of many brothers. (Heb1:10-18; Rom8:29)

6. The "seed" would give birth to the Kingdom of God through the symbolic "Woman" of God's powerful heavenly organization and system. (Rev12)

7. That "seed's" fruition is the Kingdom of God which will rule heaven, and earth, thereby by it, the will of God will be completed on earth as in heaven, removing Satan's purpose, with God's purpose for these systems. (1Cor15:24-28)

A. Death, the "Last Enemy" would be removed from earthly systems where it uniquely is present as "King" (Rom5:17). (1Cor15:26; Heb2:14; Rev21:3,4)

B. The power Satan wields through death would be vanquished. (Heb2:14)

C. Satan, Satan's spirit "seed" the demons, and the earthly "seed" of these sinners would be annihilated and erased forevermore. (Rev20:10-14)

D. The "seed" would fulfill the first prophecy, and the last prophecy of the bible, and all prophecies in between, liberating willing mankind to eternal life, as Satan's seed by sin, lie and death stole from humans. (Rev19:10; 2Pet1:19)

E. The "seed" is involved with God's Kingdom, it's foremost Representative, Jesus Christ tit's King.


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Have you seen these "seeds"?

Yes and no. Both are working invisibly, but their influence is felt and seen.

Just as God has chosen his "seed" to present his truth and Kingdom through Jesus Christ, Satan also has chosen his "seed" to present his kingdom and the lies which it runs on, as truths. Satan's lie is the cornerstone of his kingdom deception, Rev22:15; Luke4:6,7.

Jehovah's truth, Jesus is the cornerstone of his Kingdom truth, and these Kingdom's will be going at it head on very shortly at Armageddon. 

In the meantime, the purpose of Satan's power system will soon give birth to Great Tribulation, and the entire system of mankind will be involved, only God's Kingdom shall remain. Dan2:44

It seems invisible, but it is very very real.

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What is the illustration?

Both seeds have a system of belief.

God's seed must publicly identify itself.

1. Satan's seed is related to the original sin, a deceptive lie, and his technique continues to today.

2. Both seeds have a human interface through human beings, a small group, by which the rest are taught the truth, or the machinations and strategies of the lie, throughout time both seeds have been active, and today with insight from God's seed, both seed systems can be clearly identified.

So for example how does Satan's seed operate from his heavens governance to his earthly key group? (Eph6:12)

1. By communication of knowledge from the demon governance to the earthly governance:

A. The representation of this communication of intellect is seen in these scriptures:

***(Ephesians 6:11-12).."Put on the complete suit of armor from God that YOU may be able to stand firm against the machinations of the Devil; 12 because we have a wrestling, not against blood and flesh, but against the [governments], against the [authorities], against the [world rulers] of this darkness, against the wicked [spirit forces] in the heavenly places." 

***(Revelation 12:3).."a great fiery-colored dragon, with seven heads and ten horns and upon its heads seven diadems; 


***(Revelation 13:1).."And I saw a wild beast ascending out of the sea, with ten horns and seven heads, and upon its horns ten diadems.."

Seeing the relationship between the seven headed dragon Satan (Rev12:3), and the seven headed wild beast(1) (Rev13:1) is apparent in the symbol of "seven heads" and "ten horns" being present in both the dragon and the beast, and the statement "And the dragon gave to the beast its power and its throne.."

B. This is why Satan and the demons have a common goal with the Wildbeast human societal and government system, they are empowered by Satanic inspired intellectual principles:

***(Revelation 16:13-14) . . .And I saw three unclean inspired expressions [that looked] like frogs come out of the mouth of the dragon and out of the mouth of the wild beast and out of the mouth of the false prophet. 14 They are, in fact, expressions inspired by demons and perform signs, and they go forth to the kings of the entire inhabited earth, to gather them together to the war of the great day of God the Almighty.


With a catastrophic goal of destruction for all misled by this current deceptive power system which is in force today:

***(Revelation 16:16) 16 And they gathered them together to the place that is called in Hebrew Har–Magedon.

 

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Satan's Seed: Layers of Power from Visible to Invisible

Satan's Org Chart: The Evil Pyramid Structure
1. Satan
2. Seed of Satan: Spirit ( Demons)
3. Seed of Satan: Material (Earthly Humans)
4. Elite Super-Sovereignties International Scale (Rev13:11, as an example)
5. Governmental National Scale (Rev13:1 as a pattern)
6. Societal Cultures
7. The Masses of Humanity

If you notice most people cannot see past layer 6, the social layer.
Few people come to perceive that layer 6 is governed by legislation from layer 5 government, legalizing practices and mobilizing policies which do not actually even originate from within itself, as you can see, layers 1 through 4, are all more influential and powerful upon the nation state boxes, the government is a visual shell of symbols, ideas, nationalism, etc, to keep people seeing only so far, and working for an objective they are not knowledgeable of.

The Bible Shows the Power Structure Clearly 
So now we can also see that according to the bible, this is a real management structure of this world.

1. Satan
A. World Ruler: Luke 4:5
(John 16:11) . . .concerning judgment, because the ruler of this world has been judged.
(2 Corinthians 4:4) . . .among whom the god of this system of things has blinded the minds of the unbelievers. . .

(Revelation 12:9) . . .the one called Devil and Satan, who is misleading the entire inhabited earth; . . .

(1 John 5:19) . . .the whole world is lying in the power of the wicked one.
Satan is symbolized as a dragon with seven heads in Rev 12:3, which correspond to his earthly rulership over time as the Wildbeast is shown in Rev13:1 to also have seven heads, with diadems and crowns as Satan's is also described having. They are related. He uses a "head" governance of spirit beings, who interface with human beings of world ruling power. (Eph6:12)


2. Seed of Satan: Spirit 
A. Demons
(Ephesians 6:11-12) . . .machinations of the Devil; 12 because we have a wrestling, not against blood and flesh, but against the governments, against the authorities, against the world rulers of this darkness, against the wicked spirit forces in the heavenly places.
(1 Corinthians 10:20) . . .the things which the nations sacrifice they sacrifice to demons, and not to God. . .

3. Seed of Satan: Material 
A. Earthly Humans
Satan is delivering that power directly, and through demons to men who are in service, work-ship, worship to him:

(Luke 4:6-7) . . .the Devil said to him: “I will give you all this authority and the glory of them, because it has been delivered to me, and to whomever I wish I give it. 7 You, therefore, if you do an act of worship before me, it will all be yours.” These are shown to be "sons":

(Ephesians 2:2) . . .according to the system of things of this world, according to the ruler of the authority of the air, the spirit that now operates in the sons of disobedience. 

They have no real truth:
(John 8:44) . . .you are from your father the Devil, and you wish to do the desires of your father. That one was a 
manslayer when he began, and he did not stand fast in the truth, because truth is not in him.. . .
There is an "origin":
(1 John 3:8) . . .He who carries on sin originates with the Devil, because the Devil has been sinning from [the] beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was made manifest, namely, to break up the works of the Devil.

(1 John 3:12) . . .Cain, who originated with the wicked one and slaughtered his brother. . . .


4. Elite Super-Sovereignties International Scale
We know this relates to Satan's power to receive worship indirectly through a "Wildbeast" system of human governmental and societal control systems, and government philosophies of power themselves:
(Revelation 13:2) . . .the dragon gave to [the beast] its power and its throne and great authority.


(Revelation 13:14-15) . . .And it misleads those who dwell on the earth...it tells those who dwell on the earth to make an image to the wild beast...And there was granted it to give breath to the image of the wild beast, so that the image of the wild beast should...cause to be killed all those who would not in any way worship the image of the wild beast.


(Revelation 13:3-4) . . .all the earth followed the wild beast with admiration. 4 And they worshiped the dragon because it gave the authority to the wild beast, and they worshiped the wild beast. . .

So both the Wildbeast and it's image are worshipped, and it's origin is from the obvious power structure shown so far, to govern humanity on earth.

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5. The Visible Governments.

This is the last layer of obscurity that people can analyze like John F. Kennedy and Abraham Lincoln did, and there in will be many mysteries and strange occurrences well hidden in time, but none the less obviously full of hypocrisies, contradictions, injustices, as well as the governing system of "law and order" upon all societal layers. Though this layer is perceived as the leaders, they are themselves led, indebt, and slaves of the "prestige" and "power" of public service, they have no time to think globalist, they are stuck in the talking head duties of the antiquated nation-state machine.



6. The Societal Layer

This is were a benign reality occurs, it is usually in itself not good or bad, it just is. Though eventually these benign tasks are attached to weapons ends, and the endless shuffling of money and wealth distribution for the national predatory theatre which eventually everyone is webbed into. This is the place of the endless boxes, within boxes, within boxes within more shells and compartments to keep people in the dark. Think outside the box? Then there is a bigger box, and so on. This is the layer of all human activities removed naturally from the reality that engineered it for use of higher powers, for global objectives.



7. The Masses

What really needs to be explained here, it speaks for itself. Total infusion of human life into mazes and channels, and none of them actually answer the big questions, ir address the same problems which constantly resurface year after year, century after century. This is the sea, blown by winds it does not perceive, globally.




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The "Ring"

The Ring is of course unknown. People attempt words to describe these as Masons, Illuminati, generic secret social networks, secret societies etc, but the fact is it is the deepest kept secret on earth, a name called between Satan, the demons, and the chosen of his seed. That they exist the bible clearly shows, for the seed is mentioned in the bible's first prophecy as Genesis 3:15, and two seeds are mentioned. Ine being Jesus Christ before he was known, and God's chosen seed, and the other being the seed of the Serpent, Satan the Devil who by Revelation's prophetic time is a full frown seven headed Dragon, Rev12:3. The seven heads correspond to human rulership in the Wildbeast, also having seven heads, and ten horns. Both share the crowns of power, the Dragon and the Wildbeast, and the many diadems of thos powers, which are symbolic but real.





The "Gradient" of "Reality"



This is where you, me and everyone who is and who existed is in a mystery. Adam and Eve knew who they were dealing with as a reality, as did Jesus when he was confronted by this super-natural king, the spiritual world ruler Satan.



Everyone else is trying to figure it out, some believe some do not, and we are just talking about belief in this other dimension or reality, the spirit world. Beyond that, it is the ultimate shell Satan attempts to keep men in, some he shows for his purposes, others are kept in the dark. But God also shows things, and this is how we perceive Satan's end shortly, he is an incapable ruler for anything beneficial for man, and even angelic powers following him into eternal ruin, as Ezekiel 28 also shows, and John 16:10, Heb2:14, etc.



So, the power structure will be changing very soon, and everything under Satan's organizational power system will be terminated, and re-arranged to meet God's requirements for everlasting life on earth, and the benefit of all living things, not their destruction. Rev11:18, 1Cor15:24-28; Dan2:44, Joel 3:9; Psalm 110; Psalm 2; Rev16:14-16.


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This is conceptual based on Revelations snapshot of the entire Wildbeast schematic. That demons are rulers is indicated at Daniel 10:
(Daniel 10:13) . . .the prince of the royal realm of Persia . . .

So, the kingdom names like Egypt, Babylon etc, are representative of how the system has worked throughout the time God is mapping for us.

Today the actual rulership is complex, so it has a modern set of rulers at all levels, which are human, who must interface at some point with Satan's rulership circles who are angels who have existed along the continuum without dying, since Eden, as rebels, but in existence since before the physicalities present within this universe, for all intents and purposes existent before the universe, very old and intellectually powerful skilled beings of deception who will soon be removed by superior wisdom, power, and force of execution.


This is why many things in visible government and society are a bit perplexing, they have a potentially evil origin that must be deceptive to be effective, as in Eden. These sub-systems also must be progressively leading to their actual objective, not their professed objective, because willing cooperation of the people is the means to this end objective. This is why economic persuasion is effective, but forceful coercion is also a known control system visible human governments use for this mass human control purpose to keep the slaves working on the system, for it has a farther reaching goal removed from them, but dependent on them.

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Seed of Satan: Genesis 3:15, The First Prophecy


Let's start from the beginning.

1. We have a "serpent"

2. We have a seed, in fact two. (Gen3:15)

3. We have interest in demons mixing seed with humans. (Gen6)

4. We have two seeds identified, good and evil.

5. We have mention of the seed being brought into a human lineage, the good seed. (Gen12;Gen22)

6. We have the growth of that lineage to Abraham, Isaac and Jacob (Israel).

7. The seed, Jesus Christ arrives. (Luke 1:54)

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Jesus Christ and John the Baptist, Master Detectives
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Now we have the seed (Jesus Christ) and his forerunner (John the Baptist) BOTH identify for us some stunning characteristics of "Satan's seed"

1. They are serpents. (Luke3:7-9; Matt23:33)

2. They have a marked Judgment: Gehenna. (Matt23:15;23:33)

3. They come in the form of "men of God", and "children of Abraham", but are counterfeit, fake.

Then Jesus Christ takes the analysis and revelation of this seed even further:

1. Though claiming God and Abraham as their father, they actually have a quite different father; Satan. (John 8:44)

(John 8:44) . . .YOU are from YOUR father the Devil, and YOU wish to do the desires of YOUR father. That one was a manslayer when he began, and he did not stand fast in the truth, because truth is not in him. When he speaks the lie, he speaks according to his own disposition, because he is a liar and the father of [the lie].

A. They are therefore also liars, thieves, and murderers in reality.

2. They are also called fake "Jews"

3. They also have their own "house"

(Revelation 2:9) . . .the blasphemy by those who say they themselves are Jews, and yet they are not but are a synagogue of Satan.


These ones are also connected to the "money changers" and "cave of robbers" (John2:13, Luke19:46) which when Jehovah abandoned the temple soon took over for good (Rev2:9), the occult fake Jewish bankers of that time and in time today, directly connected to Jesus death by Satanic collusion as children of the Devil, directly connected to Judas betrayal as a foremost example of the "son of destruction" the seed of Satan.

Where are they today, as we see Jesus considered them very real?



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Jesus Christ's Death - Dual Significance: Two Ultimate Meanings.
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What do we know about Jesus death?

1. We know he was a sacrifice offered by God for mankind, by Jesus own offering of himself as that sacrifice of perfect blood, body his perfect spirit.

2. We know Jesus by freewill gave his life up, under circumstances which he had full power to relieve himself of by God's power, his own power and angelic power such as the 12 legions of angels. (Jesus truly delivered himself up, willingly.)

3. This sacrificial offering was a complete emptying of all power which the Christ had for the service of the will of his father, not himself, to the death and under false charges and public reproach.

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But who was doing the murdering? (It was not God. This was not a suicide mission.)

1. The chief architect of this murder was Satan employing his seed, he is the originator. (1John3:12)

2. The chief agency from that conspiracy was the rulers of Israel, those who conspired over time to do away with Jesus (John 8:44).

A. In cooperation with a Gentile military judicial system, the Romans, a religious and secular conviction and sentencing.

B. This also pictures complete worldly guilt, not just Israel's rulership, but also world rulership.

(The typical collusion for "super-power": Satanic seed religious order, administrative and judicial collusion, and military force)

3. The human agent of the initiation of the events, was the betrayer Judas, who was entered by Satan as his seed.

Big Question:

Are we to gather that the religious leaders of Israel had no contact with Satan. That there was no guidance or covenant? That this foremost act of Satan worship was not for some reward?

No.

1. Infiltration: Much evidence points to the fact that the first destruction of Jerusalem had much to do with Satan's infiltration of that house through the religious leaders, and the second destruction of Jerusalem is related to that continuation of dealings with Satan and the demons.

2. Objective: Much evidence points to the infiltration of Satan into the key religious rulership in the house of Israel also in Jesus time, resulting in the ultimate of transgression against that house, direct blood-guilt against God himself in the murder of his only firstborn son.

A. Since this fake counterfeit religious rulership has no faith in the sacrifice, therefore that blood which saves many from God's standpoint, is for the opposite effect against those who murdered for reward, the preservation and extension of their own evil system of worship, to them it is great blood guilt, convicting Satan's seed legally for eventual termination.

B. At this time, the religious house of Israel truly became the house of Satan's ultimate sin, and their own.


The Ultimate Sacrifice:

For those who put faith in that sacrifice of God's son, God has accepted that faith as being free from the guilt of what the murder of God's son on earth will mean in due time, divine rightful vengeance of that blood. a covering sacrifice or a indelible sin, people will be deciding now, and for 1000 years to come.


Satan Defeated (Heb2:14):

Satan was ignorant of the full meaning of the death of Jesus, and was not attempting to orchestrate man's deliverance from sin, no, he was murdering the son of God, from his own standpoint of darkness and was put in checkmate by God, by Jesus willingness to be the pawn.


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Some Big Questions:

So what have the "Pharisees", this occult counterfeit Jewish Religious Order received from the murder of Jesus in the service and worship of Satan?

Did the seed of Satan perish at the destruction of Jerusalem in 70CE?

Did this seed of Satan receive a form of world rulership, similar to the one Satan offered Jesus?

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Court Date Armageddon (Rev1:7):
The issue will be what it was then, and what it is now, an issue of Kingdom, God's Kingdom vs. Satan's attempt.

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I am proving that Jesus death, was the ultimate turning point for mankind for good and for evil.

It has established the legal precedent as to which side of the issue of that death a human will stand, for repentance, obedience and everlasting life, or for continuation on the course to death, and without repentance to the full the Lake of Fire, eternal extermination.

The issue will also be raised as Satan's release from abyss, at that time Jesus blood will not be the issue, each individuals blood though, will be, a true freewill time of decision, based on the same issues of selfishness which Satan raised, and the finale of a long story, to the final execution of Satan by legal established right before man and angel, for this final terminating purge will be in both realms, and will completely remove all traces of Satan's seed in spirit and fleshly realms.


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Satan the bible perspective of him and his "government".
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Let's analyze this Satan person from the bible.

1. Satan is an angel. An anointed Cherub.

(Ezekiel 28:14) . . .You are the anointed cherub that is covering, and I have set you. On the holy mountain of God you proved to be.. . .

2. Though originating with the sons of the true God, he has fallen from the truth, becoming a demon angel.

(Job 1:6) . . .Now it came to be the day when the sons of the [true] God entered to take their station before Jehovah, and even Satan proceeded to enter right among them.

3. Satan is the original liar.

(John 8:44) . . .That one was a manslayer when he began, and he did not stand fast in the truth, because truth is not in him. When he speaks the lie, he speaks according to his own disposition, because he is a liar and the father of [the lie].


(1 John 3:8) . . .the Devil has been sinning from [the] beginning. . . .

4. By that Satanic lie man has been compromised into powers under Satan, sin, slavery and death:

(Hebrews 2:14) . . .Therefore, since the “young children” are sharers of blood and flesh, he also similarly partook of the same things, that through his death he might bring to nothing the one having the means to cause death, that is, the Devil;

(Romans 5:17) 17 For if by the trespass of the one [man] death ruled as king . . .



5. There by the name Satan the Devil, the resisting slanderer was self given.


6. Satan received the death sentence directly for this action, it was an internally motivated freewill attack on God by principle.

A. The first prophecy in the bible states Satan's execution will result from the vanquishing seed, Jesus Christ.

(Genesis 3:15) . . .He will bruise you in the head . . .

7. Satan has a seed in heavenly places and on earth:

(Genesis 3:15) . . .And I shall put enmity between you and the woman and between your seed and her seed. He will bruise you in the head and you will bruise him in the heel.” 8. Satan is a temporary world ruler:

(1 John 5:19) . . .the whole world is lying in the [power of the] wicked one.

A. Cast into abyss then destruction:

(Revelation 20:1-3) . . .And I saw an angel coming down out of heaven with the key of the abyss and a great chain in his hand. 2 And he seized the dragon, the original serpent, who is the Devil and Satan, and bound him for a thousand years. 3 And he hurled him into the abyss and shut [it] and sealed [it] over him, that he might not mislead the nations anymore . . .


(John 12:31) . . .Now there is a judging of this world; now the ruler of this world will be cast out.

(Revelation 20:10) . . .And the Devil who was misleading them was hurled into the lake of fire. . .

B. Judged:
(John 16:11) . . .the ruler of this world has been judged.

9. But Satan is ruling by means of a power structure over this earth:

(Ephesians 6:11-12)...stand firm against the machinations of the Devil; 12 because we have a wrestling, not against blood and flesh, but against the governments, against the authorities, against the world rulers of this darkness, against the wicked spirit forces in the heavenly places.


A. The symbolic seven heads of Satan also have a direct correlation with human governance of the planet:

(Revelation 12:3-4) ...a great fiery-colored dragon, with seven heads and ten horns and upon its heads seven diadems; 4 and its tail drags a third of the stars of heaven, and it hurled them down to the earth. . . .


(Revelation 13:1) . . .And I saw a wild beast ascending out of the sea, with ten horns and seven heads, . . .

B. So by this invisible government of Satan and the demons in an organized governmental authority over earth, must also have the counterpart on earth, and how do we know for certain?


C. Because Satan does not give the power for free, and the power is his to give:

(Luke 4:5)

Satan: “I will give you all this authority and the glory...to whomever I wish I give it."

D. The price is worship, working for the Devil in service:


(Luke 4:7)

Satan: " if you do an act of worship before me..."


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We know some of the Pharisees worked for Satan as his children:

(John 8:44) . . .YOU are from YOUR father the Devil, and YOU wish to do the desires of YOUR father.. . .

And Judas as well:

(John 13:2) . . .the Devil having already put it into the heart of Judas Is·car′i·ot. . .

(Luke 22:3) . . .But Satan entered into Judas. . .


That religious order was abandoned by God (Mat23:38), and taken in by Satan in that seed:

(Revelation 2:9) . . .the blasphemy by those who say they themselves are Jews, and yet they are not but are a synagogue of Satan.
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But at that time no sacrifice was available with the above stipulation, the Mosaic system was not in accurate truth yet.

Judas appears to have been from a particular set, which was destined for Gehenna from the get go:

(Matthew 3:7). . .When he caught sight of many of the Pharisees and Sadducees coming to the baptism, he said to them: “YOU offspring of vipers, who has intimated to YOU to flee from the coming wrath?

If you notice, John was mocking the children of satan (John8:44)

and Jesus pointed to a statement which may be more real than it is often accepted to be:

(Matthew 23:31-33). . .Therefore YOU are bearing witness against yourselves that YOU are sons of those who murdered the prophets. 32 Well, then, fill up the measure of YOUR forefathers. 33 “Serpents, offspring of vipers, how are YOU to flee from the judgment of Gehenna?

So it does not take much imagination that these are Satan's seed, and had been involved in the Devil worship in Jerusalem even in the times of Isaiah, Micah, and Jeremiah among other prophets who confronted that seed on occasion, for it is not systemic, but present throughout the Jewish history:

(John 8:43-44) 43 Why is it YOU do not know what I am speaking? Because YOU cannot listen to my word. 44 YOU are from YOUR father the Devil, and YOU wish to do the desires of YOUR father.. . .

They did not know what Jesus was speaking in truth, because they could not.

We know by Nicodemus example and others, not all the religious groups associated with Judaism were Satanic seed, but some had definitely infiltrated to murder God's son, and Jesus ID'd them as counterfeits:

(Revelation 2:9). . .the blasphemy by those who say they themselves are Jews, and yet they are not but are a synagogue of Satan.

Since that was AFTER the second Jerusalem destruction of 70CE, it shows that element continued to survive. They are present in that same lineage today, and have spread to others:

(1 John 3:8). . .He who carries on sin originates with the Devil, because the Devil has been sinning from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was made manifest, namely, to break up the works of the Devil.

We may recall also how bad this seed infiltration was allowed to become when Noah's world was purged for good reason.

So that seed is out there, and at it's top interface to satan it is ruling the world.

Satan's Invisible Government (Eph6:12)

Seed of Satan: Where? - Topix

Armageddon is Different than the Great Tribulation? Part 1 | bibleresearchfiles

Heres the facts. Demons are no different than viruses. They are not living things but consciousness that is viral. Their only purpose is like a virus to attack healthy hosts. Virus appear to be alive , function that way , but they are not. So whats the cure? On any level its the good things to combat it. Love, compassion, and these things are all contained in acts of kindness.

 

[donnann]

Bible Seed Systems (Genesis 3:15 - The First Prophecy)

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What do we know about this "seed" symbol from real seeds on earth?

1. It is "planted", it is "watered", it "grows".

2. It is a pattern which becomes according to it's individual master design.

3. The symbol is referenced in the first biblical prophecy:

***(Genesis 3:15).."And I shall put enmity between you and the woman and between your seed and her seed. He will bruise you in the head and you will bruise him in the heel."


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What can we gather from these two "seeds"?

1. They would be representations of two powers, from super origins of God and Satan; there are two "seeds" identified, the truth and the lie, clearly related to the Edenic sin.

2 They would become present undeniably within the human system, at enmity, warring with each other through out human history (Eph6:12).

3. They would have a ruling identification in human systems since Adam, and would render injury to each other, Satan's "seed" injury is eternally fatal, crushed "he will crush you in the head"; God's "seed" was "bruised in the heel". (Rom16:20)

4. Satan's intelligence "head" is involved with the development of his "seed's" evil purpose. (Rev12:3; Eph6:12)

5. Satan's "head" would be crushed (Gen3:15; Num24:17; Rom16:20; Heb2:14), and the seven heads of his Dragon/Wildbeast power structure over earth (Rev12:3) would also be crushed (Dan2:44).

6. The "seed" of God is identified as a male, "he" (Luke1:31; Isa66:7; Rev12).

7. God's "seed" performs God's will, Satan's "seed" is opposed to this will for his own.

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What more do we know about God's "seed"?

1. God would bring the "seed" through Abraham's lineage by a promise and an oath. (Gen12, Gen22).

2. The "seed" would mean a blessing of earth's national groups; "nations of the earth", and the "families of the ground"; (Gen12, Gen22).

3. The curse of Adam would be lifted by this "seed's" power from God. (Rev22:3)

4. The "seed" would give birth to a human nation, and a spiritual spirit nation. (Rev12:2; Gal6:15,16; 1Pet2:9)

5. The "seed" became in primary form Jesus Christ, the foremost of many brothers. (Heb1:10-18; Rom8:29)

6. The "seed" would give birth to the Kingdom of God through the symbolic "Woman" of God's powerful heavenly organization and system. (Rev12)

7. That "seed's" fruition is the Kingdom of God which will rule heaven, and earth, thereby by it, the will of God will be completed on earth as in heaven, removing Satan's purpose, with God's purpose for these systems. (1Cor15:24-28)

A. Death, the "Last Enemy" would be removed from earthly systems where it uniquely is present as "King" (Rom5:17). (1Cor15:26; Heb2:14; Rev21:3,4)

B. The power Satan wields through death would be vanquished. (Heb2:14)

C. Satan, Satan's spirit "seed" the demons, and the earthly "seed" of these sinners would be annihilated and erased forevermore. (Rev20:10-14)

D. The "seed" would fulfill the first prophecy, and the last prophecy of the bible, and all prophecies in between, liberating willing mankind to eternal life, as Satan's seed by sin, lie and death stole from humans. (Rev19:10; 2Pet1:19)

E. The "seed" is involved with God's Kingdom, it's foremost Representative, Jesus Christ tit's King.


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Have you seen these "seeds"?

Yes and no. Both are working invisibly, but their influence is felt and seen.

Just as God has chosen his "seed" to present his truth and Kingdom through Jesus Christ, Satan also has chosen his "seed" to present his kingdom and the lies which it runs on, as truths. Satan's lie is the cornerstone of his kingdom deception, Rev22:15; Luke4:6,7.

Jehovah's truth, Jesus is the cornerstone of his Kingdom truth, and these Kingdom's will be going at it head on very shortly at Armageddon.

In the meantime, the purpose of Satan's power system will soon give birth to Great Tribulation, and the entire system of mankind will be involved, only God's Kingdom shall remain. Dan2:44

It seems invisible, but it is very very real.

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What is the illustration?

Both seeds have a system of belief.

God's seed must publicly identify itself.

1. Satan's seed is related to the original sin, a deceptive lie, and his technique continues to today.

2. Both seeds have a human interface through human beings, a small group, by which the rest are taught the truth, or the machinations and strategies of the lie, throughout time both seeds have been active, and today with insight from God's seed, both seed systems can be clearly identified.

So for example how does Satan's seed operate from his heavens governance to his earthly key group? (Eph6:12)

1. By communication of knowledge from the demon governance to the earthly governance:

A. The representation of this communication of intellect is seen in these scriptures:

***(Ephesians 6:11-12).."Put on the complete suit of armor from God that YOU may be able to stand firm against the machinations of the Devil; 12 because we have a wrestling, not against blood and flesh, but against the [governments], against the [authorities], against the [world rulers] of this darkness, against the wicked [spirit forces] in the heavenly places."

***(Revelation 12:3).."a great fiery-colored dragon, with seven heads and ten horns and upon its heads seven diadems;


***(Revelation 13:1).."And I saw a wild beast ascending out of the sea, with ten horns and seven heads, and upon its horns ten diadems.."

Seeing the relationship between the seven headed dragon Satan (Rev12:3), and the seven headed wild beast(1) (Rev13:1) is apparent in the symbol of "seven heads" and "ten horns" being present in both the dragon and the beast, and the statement "And the dragon gave to the beast its power and its throne.."

B. This is why Satan and the demons have a common goal with the Wildbeast human societal and government system, they are empowered by Satanic inspired intellectual principles:

***(Revelation 16:13-14) . . .And I saw three unclean inspired expressions [that looked] like frogs come out of the mouth of the dragon and out of the mouth of the wild beast and out of the mouth of the false prophet. 14 They are, in fact, expressions inspired by demons and perform signs, and they go forth to the kings of the entire inhabited earth, to gather them together to the war of the great day of God the Almighty.


With a catastrophic goal of destruction for all misled by this current deceptive power system which is in force today:

***(Revelation 16:16) 16 And they gathered them together to the place that is called in Hebrew Har–Magedon.

There is NO demon governance. They do not have free will to decide to be good or bad , they are simply viral conscioiusness. Look at hitler. He was infested with them. Look at healing by jesus to cast out demons. He was getting rid of the viral consciouness. Hitler would fall on the ground and chew on the carpet. He was sick with that stuff.

 

[donnann]

Actually the name for the angel is lucifel hes a male venus represents the female he is jelious of the female thinking hes more beautiful than she

Lucifel is actually the heavenly name for the fallen angel in his wholeness. Lucifer is a tricky word referring to the body of the angel separated from the spirit and soul parts.

So how does the human community cure itself. The same way exorcists do it and jesus did it. By bringing in good consciousness. It destroys the virus.Its like a doctor saving someone from an illness, same thing. Its about healing.

 

[wil]

I see Satan, Lucifer, Fallen Angels....all as our egos way of saying "not me"

Who remembers Flip Wilson in drag as Geraldine...."The Devil made me do it"

We spend our lives either trying to make ourselves look good or trying to not make ourselves look bad, when we don't know something, it is always convenient to blame something no one can see. Sometimes we blame G!d, other times the devil, or our fellow man, whatever it takes to get around it.

The stories in the bible are ripe with these examples, examples of primitive man trying to explain away the unexplainable and surely not place the blame on himself.

The adversary is in our own mind, trying to get us to take the perceived easy way, when only to find years later the only one we ever truly fool in this regard is ourcellves.

 

[donnann]

I see Satan, Lucifer, Fallen Angels....all as our egos way of saying "not me"

Who remembers Flip Wilson in drag as Geraldine...."The Devil made me do it"

We spend our lives either trying to make ourselves look good or trying to not make ourselves look bad, when we don't know something, it is always convenient to blame something no one can see. Sometimes we blame G!d, other times the devil, or our fellow man, whatever it takes to get around it.

The stories in the bible are ripe with these examples, examples of primitive man trying to explain away the unexplainable and surely not place the blame on himself.

The adversary is in our own mind, trying to get us to take the perceived easy way, when only to find years later the only one we ever truly fool in this regard is ourcellves.

Its always the devil and satan to blame but what is it? Its evil consciousness that is literally like a virus and satan is the lie about what is good for you. get it. So again it goes back to knowledge and acts of kindness and righteous men stop unrighteous men from doing those things by using the cure. The cure is acts of kindness. A global enlightenment through knowledge of paradise , the real one not some fake one where anything goes.

 

[bob x]

Lucifel is actually ...

a bastardized word of your own creation, mixing up Latin and Hebrew because you don't understand either.