agnosticism

If you are claiming to know this as well as beleive it as truth... what proof is there for the existence of this language? None, nada, zip, zilch. Please say what you know and use things like IMO and IMHO.

Panta Rhei! (Everything Flows!)
 
If you are claiming to know this as well as beleive it as truth... what proof is there for the existence of this language? None, nada, zip, zilch. Please say what you know and use things like IMO and IMHO.

Panta Rhei! (Everything Flows!)

Look I am sorry if you dont LIKE this fact but its really unchangeable. These are just the laws of life and no one not even god can change the laws of life.
 
Nope. Just (once more) more babble about your beliefs. I would point out that you now put your opinion over god (read your post).

Science is there to explain things and help correct things. I never put anything above god , sir you have me wrong.
 
Much like ending a sentence with a preposition have I treated the verb "can't" in light of the verse "With God, all things shall be possible." (and the fact that we can pray)
Ok: I could kill someone or commit suicide, to prevent someone from killing me. Kill or be killed, right? :(

If you are a thing, then you "can't" do a lot of things. If you are not a thing, then you ultimately can't make someone else do some thing, or not do some thing, and if you try then it is you doing that thing. Yes? A strong worded example: God can NOT make you sin, and God can NOT make you NOT sin. Do you think I error? Do you think that is a presumptuous statement? :D

By saying that God can prevent someone from killing, I mean that God can quite literally do that prevention, which is not the same as making someone willfully NOT kill. When God is doing this, you can quite literally hand a mortal enemy a gun, or a knife, and there is absolutely nothing that they can do to harm you. Whereas, I could spend my entire life trying to prevent others from killing me, and will have removed from this life as a result.

The distinction is the profound difference between a man, and God. A man can kill a man, but what man can kill God, taking him away from another man? A man can kill, and afterwards do nothing more to that person. Whereas God can kill, and afterwards do more. A power above all definitions of power.

If your definition of kill is such that Jesus was never killed: similar case, different lingo.

Prayer? I do not regard pray-ing for someone else to do a thing, as doing that thing. Do you?

Because Gabriel spoke those words in prophecy, I often cite those who use the word "can't" as suffering from 'Gabrielitis'.
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Ok: I could kill someone or commit suicide, to prevent someone from killing me. Kill or be killed, right? :(

If you are a thing, then you "can't" do a lot of things. If you are not a thing, then you ultimately can't make someone else do some thing, or not do some thing, and if you try then it is you doing that thing. Yes? A strong worded example: God can NOT make you sin, and God can NOT make you NOT sin. Do you think I error? Do you think that is a presumptuous statement? :D

By saying that God can prevent someone from killing, I mean that God can quite literally do that prevention, which is not the same as making someone willfully NOT kill. When God is doing this, you can quite literally hand a mortal enemy a gun, or a knife, and there is absolutely nothing that they can do to harm you. Whereas, I could spend my entire life trying to prevent others from killing me, and will have removed from this life as a result.

The distinction is the profound difference between a man, and God. A man can kill a man, but what man can kill God, taking him away from another man? A man can kill, and afterwards do nothing more to that person. Whereas God can kill, and afterwards do more. A power above all definitions of power.

If your definition of kill is such that Jesus was never killed: similar case, different lingo.

Prayer? I do not regard pray-ing for someone else to do a thing, as doing that thing. Do you?

:(

Didnt jesus expell demons from mary mag in scripture? So was the sin her fault?
 
Didnt jesus expell demons from mary mag in scripture? So was the sin her fault?
According to scripture . . . King James Bible (Cambridge Ed.)
Now when Jesus was risen early the first day of the week, he appeared first to Mary Magdalene, out of whom he had cast seven devils.

Seven is an interesting number in mythology. This number appears all over in almost every religion. But here are the first mentions of seven and the association with demons, devils, etc.

Egyptian Cosmology:
After the murder of Osiris, Isis was taken prisoner by Seth and put in a weaving house. As she sits and weaves the mummy wrappings for Osiris, Thoth liberates her and advises her to find a hiding place for her young son Horus. Isis wanders, looking for a hiding place from Set, carrying her baby son in her arms. For her protection Thoth sent seven scorpions to go in front of her.

Sumerian Cosmology:
The majority of Sumerian deities belonged to a classification called the Anunna (“[offspring] of An”), whereas seven deities, including Enlil and Inanna, belonged to a group of “underworld judges" known as the Anunnaki


It is quite feasible to find the number seven, later in Christianity, to represent seven demons of which Jesus expelled from Mary Magdalene, this action could represent the ridding once and for all of older Pagan deities and Goddess worship . . . but this may be going too far out on a limb. ;)
 
According to scripture . . . King James Bible (Cambridge Ed.)
Now when Jesus was risen early the first day of the week, he appeared first to Mary Magdalene, out of whom he had cast seven devils.

Seven is an interesting number in mythology. This number appears all over in almost every religion. But here are the first mentions of seven and the association with demons, devils, etc.

Egyptian Cosmology:
After the murder of Osiris, Isis was taken prisoner by Seth and put in a weaving house. As she sits and weaves the mummy wrappings for Osiris, Thoth liberates her and advises her to find a hiding place for her young son Horus. Isis wanders, looking for a hiding place from Set, carrying her baby son in her arms. For her protection Thoth sent seven scorpions to go in front of her.

Sumerian Cosmology:
The majority of Sumerian deities belonged to a classification called the Anunna (“[offspring] of An”), whereas seven deities, including Enlil and Inanna, belonged to a group of “underworld judges" known as the Anunnaki


It is quite feasible to find the number seven, later in Christianity, to represent seven demons of which Jesus expelled from Mary Magdalene, this action could represent the ridding once and for all of older Pagan deities and Goddess worship . . . but this may be going too far out on a limb. ;)

Well I have heard the term as above so below are you referring to this?
 
Well I have heard the term as above so below are you referring to this?
Nope, "as above, so below" is a Hermetic phrase signifying that what is the macrocosm is also the microcosm. Such as the orbits of planets (macrocosm) can be seen in the orbits of molecular structures (microcosm).
 
Nope, "as above, so below" is a Hermetic phrase signifying that what is the macrocosm is also the microcosm. Such as the orbits of planets (macrocosm) can be seen in the orbits of molecular structures (microcosm).

Oooo fractals!
 
If your "soul" is in conflict with logic (which by your posts it is)

Your post #427 began with a lie - "Logic demands". What possible good can you expect to achieve by expounding on that? It is written, "An evil and adulterous generation demands a sign." Interpolating that with respect to your erroneous premise, you make logic, which you admit in writing to be a gift, into a work of wickedness, yet Christ teaches that a good tree cannot bear bad fruit. So the overall gist of the lie is in fulfillment of Luke 2:34, "a sign to be spoken against". (speaking of conflict, radar-mark)

I have heard a sermon by David Ring against complaining (which is a kin of demanding), and read of further elucidation concerning submitting to Divine Providence that places such flights of fancy into the realm of mere ear-tickling for self-satisfaction.
 
Ok: I could . . . right?

The included excerpt in this topic against all manner of killing from Book VI:20 of the Divine Institutes addresses this better.

. . . and if you try then it is you doing that thing. Yes? A strong worded example: God can NOT make you sin, and God can NOT make you NOT sin. Do you think I error? Do you think that is a presumptuous statement?

It is one trying, yes. But Christ has taught "Pray that you be delivered of these things." Your logic on the whole, however, does not give full sway to "with God, all things shall be possible". It is in our recognizing God's mercy and goodness that we can be thankful to Him.


. . . but what man can kill God, taking him away from another man?

Beautiful - that is like St. Paul writing of his firmness that nothing can seperate us from the love of God.


Prayer? I do not regard pray-ing for someone else to do a thing, as doing that thing. Do you?

Christ said, "Without me, you can do nothing." We are forever not alone in what we otherwise would consider as our own exploits. As such, a prayer is something new and something old, just as Christ described His Kingdom. There is a definite distinction between asking another to do something and its being done.
 
Your logic on the whole, however, does not give full sway to "with God, all things shall be possible". It is in our recognizing God's mercy and goodness that we can be thankful to Him.
I do not give sway to the ambiguity of the word 'with', coming from both the words 'para' and 'meta'.

Christ said, "Without me, you can do nothing."
Same ambiguity. I do not think that is what Jesus said.
 
I do not give sway to the ambiguity of the word 'with', coming from both the words 'para' and 'meta'.

Same ambiguity. I do not think that is what Jesus said.

Through him all things are possible. GOD is really merciful and loving.
 
Through him all things are possible. GOD is really merciful and loving.
We empower this god, not the other way around.
Which Abrahamic god are you talking about being merciful and loving? Surely not the one in the Christian bible?
 
We empower

Only so far as we are allowed because there is only One God, from whence we can see there is One Faith and One Religion, because there is only One Source.

Yet, our One and only God has called us "gods".
 
Only so far as we are allowed because there is only One God, from whence we can see there is One Faith and One Religion, because there is only One Source.

Yet, our One and only God has called us "gods".
Being this is a thread on Agnosticism, I would have to say that I, nor you, would know for sure if there is a god/ one faith / one religion and one source.

No one has found any evidence throughout history that points that what you are saying is true, the probability is next to nothing that there is a god or intelligent designer of life.

If you have any evidence towards this Creator other than myth, do tell.
 
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