agnosticism

Etu Malku said:
Being this is a thread on Agnosticism, I would have to say that I, nor you, would know for sure if there is a god/ one faith / one religion and one source.

No one has found any evidence throughout history that points that what you are saying is true, the probability is next to nothing that there is a god or intelligent designer of life.

If you have any evidence towards this Creator other than myth, do tell.
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Being I am the patron saint of ferriers, I have a liking for interfaith as it reminds me of interstate.

Agnosticism has its roots as a philosophy. If agnosticism is allowed to go for a ride, however, it will only spread its darkness to surrounding hills. For your choice of title to your name here that might tickle your ears quite well. But you couldn't revel in such darkness if it weren't for the Light.
 
Edward Palamar said:
Being I am the patron saint of ferriers, I have a liking for interfaith as it reminds me of interstate.

Agnosticism has its roots as a philosophy. If agnosticism is allowed to go for a ride, however, it will only spread its darkness to surrounding hills. For your choice of title to your name here that might tickle your ears quite well. But you couldn't revel in such darkness if it weren't for the Light.
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I thank you for the insight as to what I can and cannot do ;)

Luciferianism embraces both Light & Dark equally, for without the one there is not the other.
 
Etu Malku said:
Luciferianism embraces both Light & Dark equally, for without the one there is not the other.
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Embrace is ambiguous. Is that,
"We perform good deeds and crime, for without the one..."
"We like to have knowledge and ignorance, for without the one..."
"We like to be honest and dishonest, for without the one..."
"We like to love a person and hate a person, for without the one..."
"We love the people who behave good, and who behave evil, for without the one..."
 
Etu,

My belief system also uses the symbology of darkness in two different ways. Of course darkness refers to evil, but it also refers to the darkness which moved over the face of the waters in Genesis 1:1. This is not an evil darkness, but a 'good' darkness from which the light emanates. I agree that there needed to be a darkness from which the light could emerge, and that both are good.
 
luecy7 said:
Embrace is ambiguous. Is that,
"We perform good deeds and crime, for without the one..."
"We like to have knowledge and ignorance, for without the one..."
"We like to be honest and dishonest, for without the one..."
"We like to love a person and hate a person, for without the one..."
"We love the people who behave good, and who behave evil, for without the one..."
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em·brace

[em-breys] -braced, -brac·ing, noun
verb (used with object) 1.to take or clasp in the arms; press to the bosom; hug.
2.to take or receive gladly or eagerly; accept willingly: to embrace an idea.
3.to avail oneself of: to embrace an opportunity.
4.to adopt (a profession, a religion, etc.): to embrace Buddhism.
5.to take in with the eye or the mind.
 
Nick the Pilot said:
Etu,

My belief system also uses the symbology of darkness in two different ways. Of course darkness refers to evil, but it also refers to the darkness which moved over the face of the waters in Genesis 1:1. This is not an evil darkness, but a 'good' darkness from which the light emanates. I agree that there needed to be a darkness from which the light could emerge, and that both are good.
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Other than referring to Darkness as the abyss / void, we use it as the polar extreme of Light, in other words it is important for Luciferians to experience and know both the Black & White of existence.
 
Fascinating. But I go with darkness as the void or non-existence. I see non-existence (darkness) as the polar opposite of existence (light) -- it makes sense to me.
 
Etu Malku said:
Luciferianism embraces both Light & Dark equally, for without the one there is not the other.
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We look at it as lack... darkness being the lack of light, light being metaphor for wisdom, darkness us pulling the blinds and choosing to ignore wisdom.

cold lack of hot...

lack being lack of abundance thinking...

choices
 
Etu Malku said:
em·brace

[em-breys] -braced, -brac·ing, noun
verb (used with object) 1.to take or clasp in the arms; press to the bosom; hug.
2.to take or receive gladly or eagerly; accept willingly: to embrace an idea.
3.to avail oneself of: to embrace an opportunity.
4.to adopt (a profession, a religion, etc.): to embrace Buddhism.
5.to take in with the eye or the mind.
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Another ambiguous statement would be, "I embrace evil." If I said, "I embrace a sinner", then it would be a bit more clear than if I said, "I embrace sin". The latter could have a different meaning. Do you agree?
 
luecy7 said:
Another ambiguous statement would be, "I embrace evil." If I said, "I embrace a sinner", then it would be a bit more clear than if I said, "I embrace sin". The latter could have a different meaning. Do you agree?
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Okay, I guess I can clarify for you.
A Luciferian will seek the balance of both extremes (Light/Dark e.g.) and not just one of them. Balance / Individuation is important to the LHP growth.
 
Allelyah said:
Evil, the moving and providing energy that is darkness, is the life that changes when change is being caused in activity locations where there is the thinking that humans or random events are doing it. The change either way is occurring and some are participating understanding what the big picture is.
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I'll give this comment a shot since it's somewhat short :cool:

Evil is not an energy, neither is darkness.
What are activity locations?
How do random events think?

Evil is a violation of a moral code of ethics.
 
You can go over to the hell area of dialogue. There is something there that is placed to Lunitik a little bit ago about the way certain life seeks to "cause" others to understand in a protracted way. It is really not able to be done within what is understood as tight regimes and sentence structures. Religion has tried to do this and what is the result? This is not what forms knowledge or experiences that are appreciated. There is also life that seeks to end new knowledge, feeling and misunderstanding it as threatening to them and to what they are doing that they can not continue to do, and this is not able to be done.
 
Edward Palamar said:
No way. Christ Who said, "I am the Way, the Truth, and the Life" cannot be evil for He also said the Son of Man (Christ) is the good seed.
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First of all, you have no idea what Yeshua said and didn't say, nothing has ever been documented by Him.
Second, there is much in the Testaments that is pure Evil, which of course would then be the work of Man, and not the Word of God.
 
Etu Malku said:
First of all, you have no idea what Yeshua said and didn't say, nothing has ever been documented by Him.
Second, there is much in the Testaments that is pure Evil, which of course would then be the work of Man, and not the Word of God.
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I know you can't come up with His body, you lie about Him, and you don't trust His friends.
 
Etu Malku said:
And how is this a lie?
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You are forgetting, he is John the Baptist and he was there. <wink> <wink> <nod> <nod>.

You have a choice Edward...answer a few questions as posed repeatedly or ridicule.

note to readers. I'm sorry to be so brash. The man stated he has walked and talked with Jesus, has lived in heaven, yet refuses to say where or what heaven is like? Tis the definition of a fraud. imo.
 
wil said:
The man stated he has walked and talked with Jesus, has lived in heaven, yet refuses to say where or what heaven is like?
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As Yahweh told Moses concerning the land He was leading him to :

"It is as far as the eye can see."

Christ, who has completed His Salvific work, is now King of the Universe, as far as the eye can see. The dimension of heaven is infinite, so are its joys. (I'll gladly make mention of a few : prime-rib, shrimp, scallops, pork, the arts and sciences . . .)
 
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