Happiness

[Lunitik]

i am closed I am just waiting for the flood gates to open so to speak where my body is filled with whole body consciousness. Thats the golden lotus opening. Dont know when that will happen. I have a feeling that wont happen for years. I am still spiritually young yet.

My consciousness is not even as limited as your 'whole body consciousness', it spans even beyond this universe. Still further, I am not limited to consciousness even, for I am aware of consciousness and unconsciousness, simply watching both. When this body sleeps, still I simply watch, it needs rest but I do not.

 

[donnann]

My consciousness is not even as limited as your 'whole body consciousness', it spans even beyond this universe. Still further, I am not limited to consciousness even, for I am aware of consciousness and unconsciousness, simply watching both. When this body sleeps, still I simply watch, it needs rest but I do not.

This consciousness goes beyond the heavenly realm where the angelic beings live. It goes to the source of all life that exists to include the creation of heaven itself. So this is the consciousness I am talking about. It created the heavens and the earth.

 

[donnann]

This consciousness goes beyond the heavenly realm where the angelic beings live. It goes to the source of all life that exists to include the creation of heaven itself. So this is the consciousness I am talking about. It created the heavens and the earth.

I shouldnt say realm the heavenly universe is a universe that exists outside this one. Its not a realm.

 

[Lunitik]

In your statement that you are spiritually young, I must even question whether the heart chakra has opened, whether any integration has taken place at all of it. I must wonder what you mean by your metaphysical experience too, for I have assumed you intended a satori. Ultimately, all is one, young and old only apply to physical reality, progress itself is just another notion - what you truly are can never change.

 

[Lunitik]

This consciousness goes beyond the heavenly realm where the angelic beings live. It goes to the source of all life that exists to include the creation of heaven itself. So this is the consciousness I am talking about. It created the heavens and the earth.

Yet you have said you are waiting for this, so your ideas about it are not worth much. Look at what I just said and see whether it is different... I only say it without notions thrown on top.

 

[Lunitik]

This universe is as an atom to something else, and again infinitely higher this goes.

It is the same for our atoms, you will find that what we call quirks contain more and more subtle realities.

All of this is within this awareness, yet it all blends together to create the now.

You are the very center of all ideas, left/right, up/down, greater/smaller, it goes on and on, you must find that very center point and live through it but mind cannot live there.

 

[donnann]

Yet you have said you are waiting for this, so your ideas about it are not worth much. Look at what I just said and see whether it is different... I only say it without notions thrown on top.

Well I cant say something has happened when it hasnt yet. Will but Idont know when.

 

[Lunitik]

Well I cant say something has happened when it hasnt yet. Will but Idont know when.

This is a projection into the future...

It is already the case right now, you just have to be aware of it.

The problem is you know nothing about the now, you only know about the minds conclusions about it, but the mind doesn't permit you to enter it.

It is the narrow gate of Jesus, there is nothing smaller than the now.

Yet all is contained in it.

 

[donnann]

This is a projection into the future...

It is already the case right now, you just have to be aware of it.

The problem is you know nothing about the now, you only know about the minds conclusions about it, but the mind doesn't permit you to enter it.

It is the narrow gate of Jesus, there is nothing smaller than the now.

Yet all is contained in it.

Now is like a gestation period.

 

[Lunitik]

Now is like a gestation period.

Not at all, because gestation is a process, it is heading somewhere.

Now is simply now, it has no purpose, no meaning, no concept can be created about it because it is absolutely the lack of mind activity.

It is simply absolutely pure.

 

[donnann]

Not at all, because gestation is a process, it is heading somewhere.

Now is simply now, it has no purpose, no meaning, no concept can be created about it because it is absolutely the lack of mind activity.

It is simply absolutely pure.

There is plenty of mind activity just not the kind i really want right now

 

[Lunitik]

There is plenty of mind activity just not the kind i really want right now

This is because you have not found the now, or if you have you have allowed mind to bring you away from it. Now mind is again the captain of the ship, it is a useful mechanism but you cannot separate yourself from it. It should be used to gather data which you want to utilize, but you make it absolutely inefficient because you enjoy it being around, it is entertaining.

You are too friendly with your employee, you are not the boss of him any more, and your bottom line - your life force - suffers.

 

[donnann]

This is because you have not found the now, or if you have you have allowed mind to bring you away from it. Now mind is again the captain of the ship, it is a useful mechanism but you cannot separate yourself from it. It should be used to gather data which you want to utilize, but you make it absolutely inefficient because you enjoy it being around, it is entertaining.

You are too friendly with your employee, you are not the boss of him any more, and your bottom line - your life force - suffers.

Its because my daughter is being horrible. Shes 16 and trying to get away with stuff she knows she isnt suppose to do.

 

[Lunitik]

It is no good fighting the mind, it will think its a game.

Simply stop all involvement with it when it is not behaving itself, ignore it utterly. Now you can get on with the business of life.

 

[donnann]

It is no good fighting the mind, it will think its a game.

Simply stop all involvement with it when it is not behaving itself, ignore it utterly. Now you can get on with the business of life.

I do need to ignore it for a while that would probably help.

 

[Lunitik]

Its because my daughter is being horrible. Shes 16 and trying to get away with stuff she knows she isnt suppose to do.

It is natural that the child rebels, it shows she is becoming mature.

Allow her, continue as a guide but only when she comes to you, it is a good example for the mind: the more we say to the mind "be quiet", the more it rattles on. So it is for the child, you tell her not to do this and that and she will gravitate more towards it - you are just giving her new ideas.

You should embrace her curiosity, give her a safe environment for any experimentation, and eventually it will pass. If it remains a rebellion it won't pass because it becomes identified with her individuality, she has to go against you to show she is her own person.

She is growing up, you should be happy about that, but it means you can no longer approach her so much as a mother, you have to start transitioning towards the friend. Both are merely roles, identifications of the mind, you have to learn to respond directly and intelligently. She will go against you in every way she can until she moves out, yet is this not desirable, that she go into the world and make something of herself?

You will look at her as the young child you raised still, but she is allowing life to take its course, she is moving forward naturally, do not fight it.

 

[Lunitik]

I do need to ignore it for a while that would probably help.

"I" is part of the mind, "you" cannot ignore it.

Simply stop fueling its nonsense

 

[donnann]

"I" is part of the mind, "you" cannot ignore it.

Simply stop fueling its nonsense

True Its the nonsense that gets you in trouble.

 

[Bhaktajan II]

This Picture is for La Donna Donnann

 

[Bhaktajan II]

And one more the road