Truth

Aupmanyav said:
Many things which have no existence in reality, just imagination. The truth is that universe is constituted by 'physical energy'. That is the truth of the moment. No truth other than that.
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This is simply false, according to science and religion.

There exists nothing actually physical, what is perceived as physical is merely repellent forces interacting. You have called yourself Hindu I believe on these forums, the Om sound is - according to the ancient seers - the nature of this energy.

Aupmanyav said:
Moment, what is that? How many nano-seconds? Bigger or smaller than Planck's time. One cannot live here in this moment. The neurons do not work that fast (119 meters/second max. for muscular activity). We can only live in past. There is no present.
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The mind is constantly 0.3 seconds beyond what is actually happening, we must go beyond the mind to experience reality. This is the whole purpose of meditation, but I am merely pointing at the illusion of past and future, that they are only thoughts, not something existential.
 
radarmark said:
The present is not a time in nano- or pico-seconds. It is an experience that is extended in time.
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The present does not exist in time, only past and future are time based.

Time is a construct of the mind, it puts our experiences in order so that we can make sense of them. Without mind, we are perpetually present.
 
luecy7 said:
Is there a person that can Truth-fully interact with another person in a single moment? Communicate instantaneously, faster than the speed of light?

As some of you go off on your entanglement tangent, information there is not conveyed faster than the speed of light.
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There is no other in Truth, all are merely arising in this Mind, we are all happening in the universal consciousness and in realizing this we come to know Oneness, that we are that consciousness and not what is arising in it.

I know you won't like this.
 
radarmark said:
Fine, I do not agree.
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The great thing about Truth, it doesn't matter whether we agree, it is simply the case.

What I say is why God is said to be timeless, eternal.

Identifying with something in time is maya.
 
radarmark said:
Sorry, I do not agree with that post either. Feel as good as you want, just do not mistake beliefs for truths.
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Don't assume, at the same time, that just because YOU don't know something, radar, that others around you do not know. Take off the glasses of ignorance and Lo! There were smart people all around, all of the time, who knew a whole lot more PHYSICS, as well as LIFE, than you.

It's called Humility

and it's the antidote to a smug certainty, or confusion of yourself and your ego with those who actually do know, or have a clue.

PRIDE is the cardinal vice, or sin
Forsake that growing intellect, if otherwise you must remain SHIPWRECKED

Sink like a stone, if you can see none but your own

This stuff is pithy; what a pity to remain so alone
 
radarmark said:
Sorry, I do not agree with that post either. Feel as good as you want, just do not mistake beliefs for truths.
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Just look at your own reality right now, without bringing anything in.

You will see exactly what I am saying if you can simply see that even thoughts are objects in consciousness. You are that source of consciousness, and everything I say is simply to show you this.

This isn't a belief, it is life as it is, utterly naked.
 
Is there a level of consciousness where I can transcend I, me and mine, and even the objects of my own consciousness, the modifications of my thinking principle, resolve and fade into ... ? (me included) ?

do tell
 
Ecumenist said:
Is there a level of consciousness where I can transcend I, me and mine, and even the objects of my own consciousness, the modifications of my thinking principle, resolve and fade into ... ? (me included) ?

do tell
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You are already transcendent of all these things, this is evident since you are aware of them.

Seeking the cessation of these things which arise for you, seeking something higher than what we are, seeking something better than what is here... it is only chasing thoughts.

Stop this and settle back into being - this is true meditation.

It doesn't mean anything actually stops, it simply allows us to see our true position, and that nothing can touch what we actually are. It is only a total change of perspective, yet suddenly suffering is overcome because expectations are dropped.
 
AdvaitaZen said:
You are already transcendent of all these things, this is evident since you are aware of them.

Seeking the cessation of these things which arise for you, seeking something higher than what we are, seeking something better than what is here... it is only chasing thoughts.

Stop this and settle back into being - this is true meditation.

It doesn't mean anything stops, it simply allows us to see our true position, and that nothing can touch what we actually are.
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It seems like such a notion, such a practice, would be fundamentally empowering. If who and what we are is already capable, more than able, to cope with most situations given precisely what we have - perhaps all else will solve itself, or come to Light, once a person plugs in, say `RELATIONSHIP' as luecy7 just said.

I like being empowered, or at least, knowing that I am AND feeling it, when undertaking Spiritual WORK, or Dharma.

Service as a Living Ethics ... I like it! :)
 
luecy7 said:
Only in accepting being utterly alone can we offer anything worthwhile to another.
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Rofl, yes, and being alone is not the same as being loneLY. As one Sage puts it, "The Soul that cannot stand alone has nought to give." :eek:

Relationship isn't an option. Rather, it's one of those important HOW questions ... ;) :)
 
Ecumenist said:
It seems like such a notion, such a practice, would be fundamentally empowering. If who and what we are is already capable, more than able, to cope with most situations given precisely what we have - perhaps all else will solve itself, or come to Light, once a person plugs in, say `RELATIONSHIP' as luecy7 just said.

I like being empowered, or at least, knowing that I am AND feeling it, when undertaking Spiritual WORK, or Dharma.

Service as a Living Ethics ... I like it! :)
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What I have described IS Dharma.

Dharma means nature, I am merely pointing at the true nature of sentience.
 
Ecumenist said:
Rofl, yes, and being alone is not the same as being loneLY. As one Sage puts it, "The Soul that cannot stand alone has nought to give." :eek:

Relationship isn't an option. Rather, it's one of those important HOW questions ... ;) :)
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Loneliness is the longing for other, the refusal to be alone.

Yet, all people we encounter merely mirror something in us, they are us projected into consciousness. We can learn from all we encounter in this way, we only need to see what they represent in us.

As they say, life itself is the true scripture, we only need to learn how to read it.
 
Ecumenist said:
As long as we remember to Practice the DHARMA, yes.
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Is it possible to ever escape Dharma?

Buddha speaks of Adharma, but still it is not contrary to our nature, it is simply that ideas of Dharma and Adharma are additive, they are not original to us.

BEING Dharma, realizing the Dharmakaya, there is no need to attempt to act in accord with Dharma because there is no separation, you ARE That, call it the Self if you please, for all definitions too are additive. Simply be what you are, yet in ignorance to our nature, much evil or sin is committed.

We are the Whole, and as the whole, nothing in our nature will cause something bad. The best word, perhaps, for Dharma is Love. Love is the dropping of ego, the ceasing of separateness, the removal of any need to protect ourselves from anything. Yet still, directed love causes us to protect it, a detached love must be fostered, a love for everything we encounter.

Yet, it is only mind that causes something other than love to arise, we lack trust only because memories tell us it is dangerous, that we have something we must protect. Nothing was ever lost though, no matter how much we hurt, we remain always exactly as we are... they are just thoughts we have given attention to, ideas we believe in.
 
Note what most call love, for me, is merely either lust, infatuation or dependency.

Love should not depend on other, and the start of this begins with loving yourself utterly. It means the start of all practice should be looking at ourselves and utterly accepting what we find without judgment. When we can do this, it becomes trivial to never judge others, and yet also it is clear that all want their freedom.

This is the problem with most love today though, it does not permit freedom because we fear losing the object of our love.
 
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