Was Jesus Michael or God?

"New age thinking" is just a less formal post-structuralism (that brainless junk that passeth off as contemporary philosophical thought).

I much prefer Laotze or Chuangzi or even Ueshiba or (heavens forbid) Rajneesh.
 
The resurrection speaks to mans fear of death, it says we can overcome death.

What is interesting is in the oldest gospels, it simply didn't happen, we leave Jesus on the cross, dead...

It seems to be something added later.

This seems to be what man does to all spiritual figures, create something outlandish to prove he is special.

Just more imaginings that serve no purpose in reality.

Again, "Whoever tries to keep their life will lose it, and whoever loses their life will preserve it."

It is in letting go of all that can die that we see what is truly alive.

That which remains was never born, so is not subject to death.

To give the Christians the benefit of the doubt - rather than accusing them of simply preying on the fear and gullibility of the masses - I see the crucifixion and resurrection as purely symbolic of this Bible quote.

Jesus suffered on the cross because he wanted to live, thus saying "why hast thou forsaken me", but once he sees the point, that he is not the body, suddenly his tone changes, now he says "in your hands I commit my spirit". He has accepted death of the body, for what he is cannot die.

This is the true moment of his enlightenment.

We too must find within ourselves that which doesn't die, that is salvation.

Yet, it doesn't die because it isn't alive, it is the source of life yet non-existent in the manifest world.

This is why the religions can't agree, there are a million ways to come to this.

Yet nothing can be said directly about it, for there is nothing there to speak of.

It is just empty, void, no-thing-ness.

Yet upon returning to the world, there is a new vitality.
Nobody is any more special than anyone else in gods eyes. I am simply saying that heavenly beings were sent. Heavenly beings are no more special than human beings. Your getting the wrong idea.
 
"New age thinking" is just a less formal post-structuralism (that brainless junk that passeth off as contemporary philosophical thought).

I much prefer Laotze or Chuangzi or even Ueshiba or (heavens forbid) Rajneesh.

For me, Osho is a modern Chuangzi.

Laotze and the Tao Te Ching are miracles that few can touch.

Everything is said that can be said, others have tried to expound but something is lost.

The simplicity is made more complicated.

Yet it is because people haven't understand Laotze.

It seems to have been necessary, for now Osho is waking up millions merely through explaining him, and a few others who have added to consciousness.

Laotze stands tall above all though.
 
Nobody is any more special than anyone else in gods eyes. I am simply saying that heavenly beings were sent. Heavenly beings are no more special than human beings. Your getting the wrong idea.

You speak to a heavenly being.

He tells you to come back down to earth.

Truth is far greater than you can imagine, but your imagination will cause you not to see.

Simply know that it cannot be found through thought.

Thoughts are merely a particular arising in it.

What can this be?
 
For me, Osho is a modern Chuangzi.

Laotze and the Tao Te Ching are miracles that few can touch.

Everything is said that can be said, others have tried to expound but something is lost.

The simplicity is made more complicated.

Yet it is because people haven't understand Laotze.

It seems to have been necessary, for now Osho is waking up millions merely through explaining him, and a few others who have added to consciousness.

Laotze stands tall above all though.
Consciousness has an effect on an individual. Everything is an extension of consciousness. You should always treat others as you would want to be treated otherwise it is abuse of the individual specifically if you are doing that as a group.
 
You speak to a heavenly being.

He tells you to come back down to earth.

Truth is far greater than you can imagine, but your imagination will cause you not to see.

Simply know that it cannot be found through thought.

Thoughts are merely a particular arising in it.

What can this be?
Do not forget to show hospitality to strangers, for by so doing some people have shown hospitality to angels without knowing it. Hebrews 13:2
 
Consciousness has an effect on an individual. Everything is an extension of consciousness. You should always treat others as you would want to be treated otherwise it is abuse of the individual specifically if you are doing that as a group.

I am consciousness.

The individual you think you are addressing merely is existing in me.
 
The resurrection speaks to mans fear of death, it says we can overcome death.

What is interesting is in the oldest gospels, it simply didn't happen, we leave Jesus on the cross, dead...

It seems to be something added later.

This seems to be what man does to all spiritual figures, create something outlandish to prove he is special.

Just more imaginings that serve no purpose in reality.

Again, "Whoever tries to keep their life will lose it, and whoever loses their life will preserve it."

It is in letting go of all that can die that we see what is truly alive.

That which remains was never born, so is not subject to death.

To give the Christians the benefit of the doubt - rather than accusing them of simply preying on the fear and gullibility of the masses - I see the crucifixion and resurrection as purely symbolic of this Bible quote.

Jesus suffered on the cross because he wanted to live, thus saying "why hast thou forsaken me", but once he sees the point, that he is not the body, suddenly his tone changes, now he says "in your hands I commit my spirit". He has accepted death of the body, for what he is cannot die.

This is the true moment of his enlightenment.

We too must find within ourselves that which doesn't die, that is salvation.

Yet, it doesn't die because it isn't alive, it is the source of life yet non-existent in the manifest world.

This is why the religions can't agree, there are a million ways to come to this.

Yet nothing can be said directly about it, for there is nothing there to speak of.

It is just empty, void, no-thing-ness.

Yet upon returning to the world, there is a new vitality.
I died when I was born. The doctor spent a long time trying to bring me back. I remember looking down at my baby body while talking to someone. I do not remember what was said.

On the subject of JESUS. He took a human body which was raised up and then ascended to heaven to save people from death. This is why a lot of texts call him the last man adam. If the body was not important he would have remained dead.
 
Can you phrase your question differently?

What is it which is aware of your thoughts, your ideas, your imaginings and your story?

In finding this out, any answer that comes is just another arising in it.

From where does it all come?
 
What is it which is aware of your thoughts, your ideas, your imaginings and your story?

In finding this out, any answer that comes is just another arising in it.

From where does it all come?

It comes from historical and theological and scriptural proof. At first I was just talking not providing and documentation as proof of what I was saying. I now provide the knowledge and information from religious sources to prove that what I am saying isnt just stuff I made up in my own head but is scriptural sound. There is a god and god really is love. The only one I know who would disagree with me on that is athesists.
 
It comes from historical and theological and scriptural proof. At first I was just talking not providing and documentation as proof of what I was saying. I now provide the knowledge and information from religious sources to prove that what I am saying isnt just stuff I made up in my own head but is scriptural sound. There is a god and god really is love. The only one I know who would disagree with me on that is athesists.

No.

For whom do these ideas arise.

Who is aware of all these thoughts, including the thought that you are, that you exist.

In whose presence does all happen?
 
I am not concerned with the ideas themselves, but rather the witness of them.
 
No.

For whom do these ideas arise.

Who is aware of all these thoughts, including the thought that you are, that you exist.

In whose presence does all happen?

Your thoughts are very philosophical.
 
No.

For whom do these ideas arise.

Who is aware of all these thoughts, including the thought that you are, that you exist.

In whose presence does all happen?

Well I say yes. These are not just ideas but truths based on centuries of documentation of the truths. We all exist. God exists. The heavenly host exist. Human beings exist. I also believe life on other planets exist. Miracles that have happened on earth and are documentation like the life of jesus are witness to gods existence. Everyone wants to live in a world where death , sorrow and pain does not exist. It doesnt exist in the kingdom of heaven so knowledge of it is part of collective enlightenment. Then there is personal enlightenment. I wish you well on your journey to personal enlightenment.
 
Well I say yes. These are not just ideas but truths based on centuries of documentation of the truths. We all exist. God exists. The heavenly host exist. Human beings exist. I also believe life on other planets exist. Miracles that have happened on earth and are documentation like the life of jesus are witness to gods existence. Everyone wants to live in a world where death , sorrow and pain does not exist. It doesnt exist in the kingdom of heaven so knowledge of it is part of collective enlightenment. Then there is personal enlightenment. I wish you well on your journey to personal enlightenment.

Truth is that which is here now.

Human speculation on truth is irrelevant.

It is here, why look there for it?

It is like the old lady looking for her keys under the street lamp. A man came by and asked her what she lost, "my keys", "where did you lose them" he asks, "in the house". "Then why are you looking out here for them" he replies, "because there is light here".

The mind thinks reading about it will help, but you're simply looking in the wrong place.

Truth is within, even if you read something detailing truth, still it isn't it because it is including the shortcomings of language and whatever interpretation you have of that language... already it is third hand.

Find out a method that works to let you experience it yourself.

You will see clearly how shallow all words have been.
 
Truth is that which is here now.

Human speculation on truth is irrelevant.

It is here, why look there for it?

It is like the old lady looking for her keys under the street lamp. A man came by and asked her what she lost, "my keys", "where did you lose them" he asks, "in the house". "Then why are you looking out here for them" he replies, "because there is light here".

The mind thinks reading about it will help, but you're simply looking in the wrong place.

Truth is within, even if you read something detailing truth, still it isn't it because it is including the shortcomings of language and whatever interpretation you have of that language... already it is third hand.

Find out a method that works to let you experience it yourself.

You will see clearly how shallow all words have been.
The kingdom of heaven is within you and all around you. The Gospel of Thomas.
 
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