Jesus and the bride

Hair does not have nano-groups. Hair follicles do have DNA. It does not matter is you dye it or have a sex change operation or bleach yourself white or dye yourself black, the DNA (what is used in full genome sequencing) does not change.

Now we are trying to provide changes via gene therapy and some natural changes (which lead to natural selection and evolution) but those are pretty localized. So if you get some DNA from, say the skin between the toes and behind the ears, you should just get one sequence. In fact, these kind of changes are so small, that you can still identify the the individual (to the odds of several billion to one).
 
I'm sorry donnann, but I simply don't follow at all. I'm sorry to give up, I was hoping to understand you better.
 
Oh, Big Bang is one of my favs. Who else could get Stephen Hawkins as a guest voice? And the scienc is primo (I have to look up comments sometime, but in large they are part of the broad discipline of the sciences).

Indeed a nano is "one billionth". I found no listing for "Nano Group" on wiki and only two in google scholoar (Meng, Huan, et al. "Ultrahigh reactivity provokes nanotoxicity: explanation of oral toxicity of nano-copper particles." Toxicology letters 175.1 (2007): 102-110 AND Chu, Xue-Hui, et al. "In vitro evaluation of a multi-layer radial-flow bioreactor based on galactosylated chitosan nanofiber scaffolds." Biomaterials 30.27 (2009): 4533-4538). I do not beleive donnann means "groups of nanofibers or surfaces".

The term is often used to refer to the scientists and companies ("Nanogroup of the Low Temperature Laboratory of Lounasmaa") that are developoing "nano-technology". No boys and girls, there are no nanobots yet.

The nucleosides (ATP, CTP, GTP, and UTP) are the "crossmembers" on the nucletic acids like DNA and RNA (see the straight lines on the figures on the right). There are typically 10-100 million of these bonds in a gene and 50-100 possible genes in the human being. So there is something like .5-10 billion of these individual bonds in a human being and mapping them to a location and order is what a full geneome sequencing is.

Some plants and animals are less complicated (that is why students study fruitflies or roundworms or mice) some about the same.

Bottom line, in scientific, empirical terms, ACOT, the thread is meaningless.

I saw Stephen in a Star Trek episode the other day, such a camera hog! But he seems to have a great sense of humour.

Thanks for coming and checking my comments, was a while since I needed to remember any of that. But I have to say, I knew alllll of those things. Mhmm!
 
I saw Stephen in a Star Trek episode the other day, such a camera hog! But he seems to have a great sense of humour.

Thanks for coming and checking my comments, was a while since I needed to remember any of that. But I have to say, I knew alllll of those things. Mhmm!
One billion cubed.
 
That's not even a sentence, I don't understand how you want me to interpret that.
 
elumin8 said:
I just thought as long as we were getting our metaphysics from movies ...
We left discussion of the Bible early in the thread, so I thought we needed a common reference. 5th Element is a surprisingly well known myth even rivaling Star Wars, Master No-Duh.
 
We left discussion of the Bible early in the thread, so I thought we needed a common reference. 5th Element is a surprisingly well known myth even rivaling Star Wars, Master No-Duh.
Feel the force
 
In The Fifth Element it could perhaps be said that love saved the world. The one thing that could not be handled or measured by men (invisible in a sense) turned out to be the final key. That such mythology exists in art forms and can be born from the human heart is, to me, telling. To me it speaks of a deeply ingrained "knowing" in man, a recognition at some level of the power and beauty of love, as well as it's potential to save -- to make, in the end, after a long journey, all things right.

Sometimes movies speak to us like that. It could just as easily be a poem, a painting, a song, a sunrise. Where we find the shadows of love often seem to be beyond our control. Where one might be moved to tears by a movie or a sunrise, another might see only an average film or a natural occurrence.

A few days ago I saw the movie "Cloud Atlas" and was crushed by it. I can't explain how or why, but it haunts me still. Did I catch a glimpse of the Bride and Bridegroom in some of the characters, such as Onmi-451 and Chang? I think so. Can I prove anything there, measure anything, make all the metaphors fit perfectly? No. But I treasure what I experienced there and I won't ruin it by trying to hold it too tightly with the mind.

In time the flow of life will carry away all but the residual effects of such experiences, but it is my belief that we are not quite the same afterwards, that we have taken another step forward, if only a small one. The Bride and Bridegroom remain mostly unfathomable, but as we walk, we will know. Through pain, through failure, through darkness... beset by weaknesses, fatally flawed, we walk on. Through it all, does not love yet reach for us? I think so. And so tomorrow I will again put one foot in front of the other.
 
In The Fifth Element it could perhaps be said that love saved the world. The one thing that could not be handled or measured by men (invisible in a sense) turned out to be the final key. That such mythology exists in art forms and can be born from the human heart is, to me, telling. To me it speaks of a deeply ingrained "knowing" in man, a recognition at some level of the power and beauty of love, as well as it's potential to save -- to make, in the end, after a long journey, all things right.

Sometimes movies speak to us like that. It could just as easily be a poem, a painting, a song, a sunrise. Where we find the shadows of love often seem to be beyond our control. Where one might be moved to tears by a movie or a sunrise, another might see only an average film or a natural occurrence.

A few days ago I saw the movie "Cloud Atlas" and was crushed by it. I can't explain how or why, but it haunts me still. Did I catch a glimpse of the Bride and Bridegroom in some of the characters, such as Onmi-451 and Chang? I think so. Can I prove anything there, measure anything, make all the metaphors fit perfectly? No. But I treasure what I experienced there and I won't ruin it by trying to hold it too tightly with the mind.

In time the flow of life will carry away all but the residual effects of such experiences, but it is my belief that we are not quite the same afterwards, that we have taken another step forward, if only a small one. The Bride and Bridegroom remain mostly unfathomable, but as we walk, we will know. Through pain, through failure, through darkness... beset by weaknesses, fatally flawed, we walk on. Through it all, does not love yet reach for us? I think so. And so tomorrow I will again put one foot in front of the other.
Nicely said :)
 
Glad to see you back home and posting again Donnan. :)
 
It is a comparison between and husband and wife, whereas they become one flesh. The church, becomes one with Yeshua, and therefore the church members become one with each other. The parallel aspect of Yeshua being the head of the church will not be received well by our modern women libbers, so I won't comment on that aspect.

Jesus is the saviour , females are brides. The bible says so. Any comments on this?
 
It is a comparison between and husband and wife, whereas they become one flesh. The church, becomes one with Yeshua, and therefore the church members become one with each other. The parallel aspect of Yeshua being the head of the church will not be received well by our modern women libbers, so I won't comment on that aspect.

True we are all interconnected and all part of one big collective body. However the male and female aspect is important. In the beginning a human being consisted of two parts: One female and one male. Like left and right brain. The two were also one as well as being three. A threefold consciousness. This meant the two were literally one being. The fall caused a split of the male and female which caused mortality and a separation of the soul from the bodies. All living beings really are designed this way to include jesus. Each of us has a counterpart somewhere.
 
True we are all interconnected and all part of one big collective body. However the male and female aspect is important. In the beginning a human being consisted of two parts: One female and one male. Like left and right brain. The two were also one as well as being three. A threefold consciousness. This meant the two were literally one being. The fall caused a split of the male and female which caused mortality and a separation of the soul from the bodies. All living beings really are designed this way to include jesus. Each of us has a counterpart somewhere.

Dear Donna,
My phasing wasn't that "we are all interconnected". I was referring to the "body of Christ" so to speak, whereas the children of God, those who do the will of God, are of that one body. As for a split between man and woman after the "fall". Not so. A husband and wife, who are both children of God, in that they do the will of God, are of one body, mind and heart. One can feel and think what the other feels and thinks. The closeness is dependent on how close each are to doing the will of God.
As for Yeshua, he actually has 7 wives, in the sense that there are 7 churches. Some of the wives are faithful, and most are not. Yet he remains the head of the churches, whether they are faithful or not. (Rev 1, 2, & 3)
I think you might want to do a semantics search for the term "soul". Possibly your idea of "soul" is mainstream, but I am sure there are better written concepts with respect to that term.
 
Dear Donna,
My phasing wasn't that "we are all interconnected". I was referring to the "body of Christ" so to speak, whereas the children of God, those who do the will of God, are of that one body. As for a split between man and woman after the "fall". Not so. A husband and wife, who are both children of God, in that they do the will of God, are of one body, mind and heart. One can feel and think what the other feels and thinks. The closeness is dependent on how close each are to doing the will of God.
As for Yeshua, he actually has 7 wives, in the sense that there are 7 churches. Some of the wives are faithful, and most are not. Yet he remains the head of the churches, whether they are faithful or not. (Rev 1, 2, & 3)
I think you might want to do a semantics search for the term "soul". Possibly your idea of "soul" is mainstream, but I am sure there are better written concepts with respect to that term.
The soul is a literal part made up of a pattern of different colors that look like paint splatters that is an essence. You can on feel your soul on the level of the senses which comes out as emotion. This is because you are not one with your soul. There are 4 parts that make up each one of us. Spirit that is a white light that is a pattern that is pure consciousness, whole body consciousness. The soul is patterned after that and then the body is patterned after that. The fourth thing is black light spirit which is pure sexual consciousness, whole body as well. Because this is a pattern that has codes like genetics have codes your one true opposite will have the same codes but opposite like a mirror image based on the spirit pattern which is holy spirit. Each of us has an opposite and that also goes for god as well. If you study history the Hebrews originally worshiped with this concept but the priesthood became male dominated so they wrote the female counterpart out of their books and it became a crime to acknowledge her. An infinite being always consists of two halfs that are also one whole. I am well aware of what the soul is. There is individual soul and then the collective soul that everyone fits into. Before the fall the whole universe was one collective soul that was one not only with the body but also the elements themselves.
 
In The Fifth Element it could perhaps be said that love saved the world. The one thing that could not be handled or measured by men (invisible in a sense) turned out to be the final key. That such mythology exists in art forms and can be born from the human heart is, to me, telling. To me it speaks of a deeply ingrained "knowing" in man, a recognition at some level of the power and beauty of love, as well as it's potential to save -- to make, in the end, after a long journey, all things right.

Sometimes movies speak to us like that. It could just as easily be a poem, a painting, a song, a sunrise. Where we find the shadows of love often seem to be beyond our control. Where one might be moved to tears by a movie or a sunrise, another might see only an average film or a natural occurrence.

A few days ago I saw the movie "Cloud Atlas" and was crushed by it. I can't explain how or why, but it haunts me still. Did I catch a glimpse of the Bride and Bridegroom in some of the characters, such as Onmi-451 and Chang? I think so. Can I prove anything there, measure anything, make all the metaphors fit perfectly? No. But I treasure what I experienced there and I won't ruin it by trying to hold it too tightly with the mind.

In time the flow of life will carry away all but the residual effects of such experiences, but it is my belief that we are not quite the same afterwards, that we have taken another step forward, if only a small one. The Bride and Bridegroom remain mostly unfathomable, but as we walk, we will know. Through pain, through failure, through darkness... beset by weaknesses, fatally flawed, we walk on. Through it all, does not love yet reach for us? I think so. And so tomorrow I will again put one foot in front of the other.

There is nothing in the whole world that can touch us so much as the love between a man and a woman. Look at the song of Solomon. The whole book is so romantic and touching. Its the same with movies. The fifth element is a movie where his love saves the woman and their love saves the world. It touches us because that is what we are all looking for and goes to the very core of who we really are.
 
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