What I believe.....

radarmark said:
Not bad, Thomas. However, just realize how dated this observation is; he is in contemporary terms discussing the Shadow and Substance of Jung or Joanie Mitchell.
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Well ... there's no 'sell-by' date on insight in my book (in fact, its usually the opposite). I read him to point at something quite profound, something that Jung perhaps missed ... I can't speak for Mitchell!
 
I believe in Oneness....not gods or goddesses... I believe G!d does not have a sex...the (S)He being simplyconvenient to the speech that fails us so....that and the machinations of a paternalistic society.

But language....when you sit in awe of a situation or someone...when you sit looking into the eyes of a loved one...or watching you child sleep...the best authors in the world have attempted to descibe these moments but they have all fell short reality...
 
wil said:
.. I believe G!d does not have a sex ..
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That is why 'advaitist' Hindus say 'it' (you may capitalize I to say 'It', Brahman, because we do not fully know It's nature, 'neti, neti', 'not this, not that'), whether God or something else. :)
 
What I see, the real thing, but sometimes I hear there exists evil powers, would it true, consulted to the online astrologer, there I get there exists everything in this problem
 
Nick the Pilot said:
Aup,

I think what you are saying pertains to Parabrahman, not Brahman.
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Hahahaha, this is the greatest thing I've seen this year, and so typically interfaith.org. Your lecturing a Hindu on Hinduism, just as he lectured a Catholic on on Catholicism. The irony is so sweet.
 
Nick the Pilot said:
Aup, I think what you are saying pertains to Parabrahman, not Brahman.
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With me, it is just one species. Parabrahman is for the theists (like Hare-Krishnas). When the 'advaitists (believers in non-duality) talked of Brahman, theists came up with Parabrahman, one up.
 
Nick the Pilot said:
"...theists came up with Parabrahman..."

--> I guess we just have to agree to disagree on this one.
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I believe that each of us has a counterpart. That the two of us make us one and that we are love literally. I believe we are all looking for this. God is love.
 
I have no problems with what others 'believe'. The question I asked myself many years ago is:

What am I looking for? Is there a way to get an answer. An answer which I know is the 'reality'. I spent many years...and I was much the same. Questions and hope to find something. Until...

I realised there is nothing to know and find. All questions that arise and eloquent, scientific language you use to communicate and understand...there is no way for the human mind to find an answer...because there is nothing to know. Even if there is something the preconditioned mind will be unable to grasp this.

God, religion and science will all lead us to the same end...there is nothing to know. So stop asking questions for which there are no answers.

I have lived this way for 10 yrs now and feel myself more at ease. I call it the 'natural' way (animal way) of existence.
 
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I think if 6000 or so years ago my soul and the earth was magically formed and I have been dieing and returning hundreds of times, I beg someone to stop pressing the reset button I don't want to do this again.

On the other hand if my soul is eternal and this is only a 80 or 90 year road bump, I think I would perhaps do it once or twice more ( not a gambling kind of guy, but I believe in three strikes.) before drifting away from here.
 
wil said:
You believe in reincarnation and a short earth?
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Wil

OK, you really want to know what I believe. I believe the earth to be what science has predicted it to be 4.5 billion years old and I also believe the universe is 13.8 billion years old. The 6000 year comment was me trying to be a little funny.

I believe that after the earth coalesced and environmental conditions were ideal life began to form, Once life started energy was released this energy formed into a simple soul object evolving as life evolved.

I believe in the veil or a place where this energy moves to after death, perhaps an alternate reality or a different phase of existence. As evolution continued to advance forward man and his conscious mind was introduced and a new chapter in earths evolution began. I believe Gaia was proud of this and like any mother she created a special bond with this new conscious soul. I think that every once in awhile the veil comes close to earth, projected through the sun during the 11 year solar cycle.

I am working towards a theory that when our galaxy began it started as a large solar star, When this object began to collapse towards the end of its life the mass compressed space and time pressing into a pocket of sorts. I think the star exploded half in and half out of the veil, the preceding explosion formed a balloon type universe below ours, half the universe you see and half you don't see. this might account for the missing mass and the size and shapes of other galaxies and their movements. If you watch a galaxy waltz you can almost see how everything is moving around these objects, maybe its just my imagination but what the hell. I believe that the sun sometimes comes close to this veil or the frequencies are just right allowing her to make small changes that influence evolution a pruning of sorts. If one follows a line back in time the 11 year cycle tends to align with allot of strange instances. 333, 666, 999 and pretty much all the angelical numbers.

I also believe that as man started to evolve she also evolved, she spared man and tried to groom his evolution but man evolved to fast between her times of adjustment, this is why Jesus was born to try and tell man that in order to evolve we needed to seek ascension through spirituality but only some men would be able to do this, in particular men and women who had been reincarnated. I think the church learned of this and in its greed and power they wanted to be the ones who held all the answers, not those who Jesus spoke of. The bible was changed many times and his teachings to the point people moved farther and farther from spirituality. Spirituality is not through the church it is through the soul have you ever been told how to reach your soul in church. Could have the crusades been a spiritual killing spree, along with the witch trials and the almost total annihilation of the jews.

As for reincarnation

I believe that when you die and are reincarnated the soul goes through a total sweep this destroys all memories of who you were during your past life. If you decided to stay within the veil then you will only have around 3/4 of that same time to remain in the veil so if you were a hundred when you died on earth you could remain in the veil for 75 years. More advanced races live longer and have more years to remain in the veil they also find a rhythm with there planetary soul object that harmonizes the planet and everything living.

gaia can choose who comes back but she can't choose the outcome or behavior of new souls.

I feel that there are both new souls and those that were chosen to come again. A soul can gain time in the veil by feeding off others this happens during times of great loss when Gaia is overwhelmed by the incoming souls, this also occurs because there are rouge groups that feed like vultures during deaths and inadequate means are used to retrieve these souls. The population is out of control and the problem is getting out of hand many times the losses match the saves. The soul will die if not returned to earth during this time and a soul will slowly separate into different forms of energy but not one that can think or act, till finally there is nothing but scattered remnants.

I have tried to briefly summarize my beliefs so there my be some holes or questions regarding these statements please feel free to comment.
 
Always interesting to understand some of what one believes, makes for easier discussion on various topics...and it is what this thread is about..

thanx
 
Aupmanyav said:
The energy remains very much here. It does not go to any other place. We are bound by Earth's gravity. And that is utilized to form new things.
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There are dimensions that exist in this universe . One dimension is the spirit place some refer to as heaven. However, the actual heavenly kingdom exists beyond this universe and is a place where the spirit soul and bodies are one. They are separate places but connected.
 
Aupmanyav said:
The energy remains very much here. It does not go to any other place. We are bound by Earth's gravity. And that is utilized to form new things.
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Aupmanyav

I hold a memory of a moment prior to birth where I stood in a hospital with an elderly man looking in from behind the veil. I have also had out of body experiences throughout my whole life starting when I was 12. I know people who have never had these experiences question them and the mind of the person experiencing this phenomenon, but I assure you this place exists. I have found that all these experiences fall into several categories all of which depend on the observer his mind set and beliefs, it is only when we go with no expectations we see the true veil, which matches with my early memory prior to birth.

You have probably heard others describe their experience with out of body but allow me to give my account of this process. I lie flat on my back, body completely straight and feet together preferably held that way by tucking them under the covers or sheet. I interlock my fingers and spreed my elbows as wide as as I can trying to achieve the most comfortable position possible. I then start at my feet and the base of my neck releasing all tension and relaxing the muscles while slowing my heart and breathing to their slowest rhythm. I only concentrate on my body and this process to maintain awareness this keeps me from accidentally falling asleep, not all attempts are successful but many are.

Once I have brought my body to this stage I will start to feel the vibrations I can achieve this level every time. The trick to the out of body part is to harmonize the vibrations and deep meditation bringing them together.
Alright so here is the point of me describing this, once I have achieved this point I will feel my soul lift from my body, and due to the consistency of my process I have witnessed many things, first of all the appearance of my soul. The soul in the veil appears to be made up of millions of dots not transparent just less dense and the energy that is most recognizable is that which flows through the frontal cortex, the environment around you will be completely as it should be, this is the raw experience. You will see in the veil what you want to see this is the reason for so many different experiences, everyone starts out with the same exiting feelings but their experiences are what they create.

I am yet to understand the veil and its correlation to earth since their are so many factors that have created this environment. I can't begin to explain all of the things I have witnessed in this place, only that it exists. Gravity is not the problem it is time that creates the biggest problem and all the energy goes back to her for it is the energy of the sole and the rest of the energy can be achieved through the sun.

During your time on earth you will consume the energy of the earth, this energy will be with you after death, and someday you all will find yourself behind the veil. I only hope everyone makes it to her, for this energy will go to making other souls and some will be reincarnated.
 
donnann said:
There are dimensions that exist in this universe . One dimension is the spirit place some refer to as heaven. However, the actual heavenly kingdom exists beyond this universe and is a place where the spirit soul and bodies are one. They are separate places but connected.
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Religious jargon, at least for me.
 
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