Is Britain no longer a 'Christian' country?

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Devils' Advocate said:
Perhaps not. But an awful lot of folks do. If I hear someone carry on one more time about how America is a Christian nation, always has been, and always shall be, I and am going to puke. Hopefully on the person making the statement!
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Take a look at the founding Fathers of the United States and tell me what their religious beliefs were. Then look at our Constitution and tell me what the very first amendment reads. Though the United States may not be considered a Christian Nation by most any more I believe that our Constitution was based on Christian Morals. I hope you have a barf bag, you won't get close enough to eject on me....lol
 
Richard Pickett said:
Take a look at the founding Fathers of the United States and tell me what their religious beliefs were. Then look at our Constitution and tell me what the very first amendment reads. Though the United States may not be considered a Christian Nation by most any more I believe that our Constitution was based on Christian Morals. I hope you have a barf bag, you won't get close enough to eject on me....lol
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And Yet Jefferson was clear in his statement that the constitution was made solely for the betterment of all man, not just the Christian. You ever research what some of his favorite books were? 1 was a Quran, of which the same ideas could be derived. George Washington was staunch in his condemnation of a country controlled by a single religion. Which is the reason a lot of people came from Europe in the first place.
 
Read Jefferson's bible and most will say he was not a Christian (removed all the miracles, virgin birth, resurrection) most of our founding fathers were deists....and drunks...
 
DA, I agree with you that we need to stop saying America is a Christian country, England is a Christian country, etc.
 
Lol... We've stopped saying it... Tis the others... Who Trump us in this regard, they Cruz through with their rhetoric and the world thinks we are just a bunch of Huckabees cause we can't Kasich for ourselves.
 
Devils' Advocate said:
If I hear someone carry on one more time about how America is a Christian nation, always has been, and always shall be, I and am going to puke.
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I would agree that America is not strictly a Christian nation. It is however a Godly nation founded on the simple premise that all men are endowed by their Creator with certain inalienable rights. Ironically, it is this very idea that gives non-believers and other detractors a voice. Make no mistake though, as the pledge of allegiance states, this is one nation under GOD. A fact driven home by the very currency we carry; In GOD We Trust!

When this simple ideal is abandoned is when America will fall. Until then, vomit away! That is a right granted you by the Creator.
 
Surely you are aware that God was added to our coins and our pledge during a very dark time in our country... When senator McCarthy was redlisting people and making wild accusations...witch trials they were.

For almost 200 years that didn't exist in our govt and goes against our constitution and forefathers
 
Typical response, but it matters not. The addition of the word GOD only serves to support the premise the country was founded on.
 
Namaste Jesus said:
Typical response, but it matters not. The addition of the word GOD only serves to support the premise the country was founded on.
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No. You miss the point entirely. The Pledge did not include the phrase 'under God' until the 1950's, which was when it was added. For 150 years that term was not in the pledge. It cannot be used to support a premise that the country was founded on a Godly nation, when the phrase was not added until 150 years after the founding of the country.

If anything, it suggests quite the opposite.
 
Devils' Advocate said:
It cannot be used to support a premise that the country was founded on a Godly nation, when the phrase was not added until 150 years after the founding of the country.
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Pretty funny mate. Let's see, I'm not from the states, but if I remember right and correct me if I'm wrong, one of the lines in the US declaration of independence reads, "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights..." Now who do you suppose the founding fathers were referring to with words like created and Creator? Seems to me NJ's right. Adding the word God to legal tender and the pledge supports the original premise. When it was added has no relevance. The idea was there from the beginning.
 
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No relevance? It was in specific response to the communist atheistic position.

Why do you think it took 150 years? Because umpteen senates, umpteen presidents and umpteen congresses did not see it that way...did not see the need to broach the separation of church and state..

It was born from the better dead than red keep the fear alive McCarthy era, a very dark time in US political attack days...

These arguments are not new, and not ours, this is fairly straightforward history...
 
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