Yes. Man is a natural animal, but Man is Spirit too? It is the symbol of the crucifixion: Man tormented, and suspended on the horizontal between earth and heaven?
Is freewill real or just something we invented it ?
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The devil takes his due.
Better to be with God, imo
Come unto me, all ye that labour and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest. Take my yoke upon you, and learn of me; for I am meek and lowly in heart: and ye shall find rest unto your souls.
(Matt 11: 28-29)
Trust in the LORD with all thine heart; and lean not unto thine own understanding. In all thy ways acknowledge him, and he shall direct thy paths.
(Prov 3: 5-6)
Better to be with God, imo
Come unto me, all ye that labour and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest. Take my yoke upon you, and learn of me; for I am meek and lowly in heart: and ye shall find rest unto your souls.
(Matt 11: 28-29)
Trust in the LORD with all thine heart; and lean not unto thine own understanding. In all thy ways acknowledge him, and he shall direct thy paths.
(Prov 3: 5-6)
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Tony Bristow-Stagg
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I have read that we have been created on the edge of darkness and the beginning of Light.
That to me means that we each contain all the darkness and have the potential of light. I see that is in tune with what you have offered.
That is why Jesus offered we must be born again, be born from the material human self into the Holy Spirit that was Jesus the Christ. A birth that no death will overcome.
Regards Tony
Tony Bristow-Stagg
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If you say so . . .
Actually it was not RJM that this concept comes from, it was the Prophets and Messengers from God that offered that the Spirit is Life and Light and the flesh amounts to nothing.
Regards Tony
Darkness in nature is a place where light does not reach. Total darkness is the total absence of light, but light just gets brighter -- tens of millions of suns are never totality of light. The devil in nature is gravity that drags all nature down to fires of hell and renewal at the heart of the earth or of a black hole.
But the true fixed polarities of Spirit stand above and aloof of nature, silent and divine -- permeating the ever shifting mixed polarities of nature, that lead to change and life and death, and time and space, imo
But the true fixed polarities of Spirit stand above and aloof of nature, silent and divine -- permeating the ever shifting mixed polarities of nature, that lead to change and life and death, and time and space, imo
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I arrived at my thoughts independently however -- guided often by I Ching
We should not be too quick to take fixed positions about 'God' deriving from infallibility of our own scriptures or messengers* and our own passing, changing knowledge of life and the world, imo
We are all talking the same 'metaphysical' language. We are not trying teach or preach to one another?
Always, just my own thoughts
*They are all the 'finger pointing to the moon'
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Tony Bristow-Stagg
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I have always considered as to where my thoughts come from?
Ever noticed that when you have a good idea, that you find someone has already acted on that good idea!
So, for me if I think and do good, it is because that thought and ability has already been made available.
If I choose not to and bad results, we'll that was me not tapping into what was already available.
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Aupmanyav
Be your own guru.
Who's she?
Perhaps the ancient seers were more open to the interweaving of nature and Spirit than we are today, locked-in with the declarations of all our infallible messengers and scriptures?
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The greater wheel of Spirit turns the lesser wheel of nature, and is not turned by it, imo. Satanism eventually may be the rebellion of nature -- the belief that nature 'red in tooth and claw' is a law sufficient unto itself?
IMO
Belomancy, is the ancient art of divination by use of arrows.
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Belomancy was anciently practised at least by Babylonians, Greeks, Arabs and Scythians.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Belomancy
21 For the king of Babylon stood at the parting of the way, at the head of the two ways, to use divination: he made his arrows bright, he consulted with images, he looked in the liver.
22 At his right hand was the divination for Jerusalem, to appoint captains, to open the mouth in the slaughter, to lift up the voice with shouting, to appoint battering rams against the gates, to cast a mount, and to build a fort.
- Bible Ezekiel 21 -
Can you explain to me how I Ching is any different in principle to divining arrows?
I think the above quote from the OT condemns this practice as idolatry.
Divination is the entry point. Divination must fall away. The I Ching has a built-in block against abuse in that way.
However, the point is that it originated long before the Abrahamic scriptures and their various prohibitions*
*What to eat, what to wear, what to think -- or else
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Not (generally) about what I may read or think
I'm off to the ecumenical centre.
Our faith does not have to be a source of division, unless you make it so.
Some people there think that if you don't believe in the trinity, you shouldn't be there [ not a Christian ]
..others either are not interested in scripture/creed, or are more tolerant.
Our faith does not have to be a source of division, unless you make it so.
Some people there think that if you don't believe in the trinity, you shouldn't be there [ not a Christian ]
..others either are not interested in scripture/creed, or are more tolerant.