Why do you need Jesus? He saves you from what?

[Longfellow]

More to it of course, but salvation is the cornerstone of Christianity. That's why it is sometimes stressed over all else. The point I was trying to make in the post you quoted part of is, however great the need for salvation may be, not everyone wants or will except it and the more they are pushed to do so, the less likely they will. So yeah, it's that accept Jesus or else attitude of some individuals and church structures that puts people off. IMO at least.

Actually, that was my clumsy way of trying to start a conversation with you about my understanding of the gospel of Jesus.

(later) It doesn't have to be about that. I got the idea today that I might like having some kind of discussion with you about something, and this topic looked like a good place to start.

(later) I guess it would be better to go back and respond to what you've been saying in this thread.

 

[Namaste Jesus]

I got the idea today that I might like having some kind of discussion with you about something

You can PM me if there's something you want to discuss.

 

[Aupmanyav]

Actually, that was my clumsy way of trying to start a conversation with you about my understanding of the gospel of Jesus.
(later) It doesn't have to be about that. I got the idea today that I might like having some kind of discussion with you about something, and this topic looked like a good place to start.
(later) I guess it would be better to go back and respond to what you've been saying in this thread.

Keep your brain engaged otherwise you make such posts.

 

[RJM]

I believe Jesus was a great prophet.

Christians believe Jesus the Christ was far more than just a great prophet

God saved his prophets.

Only the Biblical prophets that the Quran chooses to acknowledge. Jeremiah was stoned to death. Isiaah was cut in two under the orders of Manasseh. They are two of the most important Old Testament prophets.

according to their view, Jesus can not save himself from the cross.

You continue to misunderstand the whole message of the incarnation, crucifixion and resurrection of Jesus the Christ

 

[Yahweh kid]

We don't like this sort of posting here. Nobody is tilting at you for your beliefs. Others are entitled to theirs, without being subjected to veiled insults comparing them to animals

I understand, I will not be posting here anymore. All the best....

 

[RJM]

I understand, I will not be posting here anymore. All the best....

That's up to you. It's about discussion and learning, not preaching and insulting the beliefs of others

 

[Ijaz Ahmad Ahmadi]

Reply to post #164.
The Holy Bible says:
Deuteronomy 21:22
Revised Standard Version (RSV)
22 “And if a man has committed a crime punishable by death and he is put to death, and you hang him on a tree,
23 his body shall not remain all night upon the tree, but you shall bury him the same day, for a hanged man is accursed by God; you shall not defile your land which the Lord your God gives you for an inheritance.
Deuteronomy 18:20
(New International Version)
But a prophet who presumes to speak in my name anything I have not commanded, or a prophet who speaks in the name of other gods, is to be put to death.”
Please read again the words "to be put to death".
our topic is about Jesus. So, If you believe that Jesus died on the cross then according to the above verses of the Bible (God forbid me) his death is accursed death. Jesus was a true prophet and God saved him as God saved Jonah, Ibraheem, Moses, the Prophet of Islam, and other his true prophets.

 

[RJM]

Our topic is about Jesus. So, If you believe that Jesus died on the cross then according to the above verses of the Bible (God forbid me) his death is accursed death. Jesus was a true prophet and God saved him as God saved Jonah, Ibraheem, Moses, the Prophet of Islam, and other his true prophets.

Jesus Christ was not a prophet

 

[Longfellow]

Jesus Christ was not a prophet

Look again.

Maybe you meant, not only a prophet?

 

[RJM]

Look again.

Maybe you meant, not only a prophet?

He was more than (just) a prophet

 

[Longfellow]

He was more than (just) a prophet

He is more than a prophet, but God tells us He was a prophet, and God has reasons for what He tells us.

 

[RJM]

He is more than a prophet, but God tells He was a prophet, and God has reasons for what He tells us.

Ok. Quote the passages please?

 

[Longfellow]

Ok. Quote the passages please?

Seriously? You don’t believe that?

(later) Why am I surprised?

 

[RJM]

Seriously? You don’t believe that?

Actually I do. But instead of going to Google, I am asking you?

 

[Longfellow]

Actually I do. But instead of going to Google, I am asking you?

?

What is this, some kind of test, or game?

Oh. For the context?

 

[RJM]

?

What is this, some kind of test, or game?

No. It's a simple request
I'm here to learn

 

[Aupmanyav]

Again, the Christian Bahai conundrum as with Bahai conundrum with all other religions.
For Christians, Jesus is the anointed son of God expressly sent to save humankind from the original sin with the sacrifice of his life. For Bahais, he is just another prophet whose message has been corrupted, so people must now follow the 19th Century uneducated Iranian, Bahaollah, who brings the latest message from Allah or face the consequences.

"Terrible is the retribution of Allah"

 

[RJM]

For Bahais, he is just another prophet whose message has been corrupted

We need to see where God refers to Jesus as a prophet?

 

[RJM]

God saved Jonah, Ibraheem, Moses, the Prophet of Islam, and other his true prophets.

Repeat:

Jeremiah was stoned to death. Isiaah was cut in two under the orders of Manasseh. They are two of the most important Old Testament prophets.

 

[Aupmanyav]

Nothing lost, I suppose. Their souls are under the care of God.