Ah, I see, short answer, no, that's not what's meant.Yes, I agree .. which to me, implies that it is "from Himself" .. nothing is nothing.![]()
Ah, I see, short answer, no, that's not what's meant.Yes, I agree .. which to me, implies that it is "from Himself" .. nothing is nothing.![]()
Regarding the feeling of oneness: yes, I have experienced it. However, my contemplations regarding it have steered my conclusions regarding the experiences towards a different explanation than what most other mystics have.
In a nutshell: everything you experience (sensory data, thoughts, feelings, communications, etc,) is subjectively processed. The Oneness of everything you experience, as well as the experience of Oneness, may just be due to the Oneness of your subjective mind.And what would that alternate explanation be? do tell.
It could be. But you would have had to have the experience to really understand it. It was essentially experience of an unmatched reality that does not fit into the human language for description.In a nutshell: everything you experience (sensory data, thoughts, feelings, communications, etc,) is subjectively processed. The Oneness of everything you experience, as well as the experience of Oneness, may just be due to the Oneness of your subjective mind.
But you would have had to have the experience to really understand it. It was essentially experience of an unmatched reality that does not fit into the human language for description.
the mind itself has not been conclusively defined by priest or scientist. What is not the norm is usually discarded by science especially if it cannot be understood empirically.
Lucid dreaming has been conclusively proved by science. It is recognized as a state different from waking and rem sleep.Yeah... I often wonder about the convincing power of such experiences.
Related example: Lucid dreaming. This type of dream is usually understood as a situation where the dreamer gains a level of awakeness to recognize they are in a dream, and subsequently gain a measure of "lucidity", becoming able to reflect on the nature if the dream, or ever gain control over the dream events.
A different interpretation, which I heard from a good friend with extensive experience in lucid dreaming, is that one may be dreaming to be in a lucid dream, including the sensations of being lucid and in control.
Yes. It also did not take place with the senses of this reality. Whatever it was I know that it was a conscious cognitive experience of the state of infinite being and infinite love. It lasted only a few seconds and when it ended, the senses of normal reality returned. I was back to tying my shoe.I don't know what you tapped into. Did it have a perceivable duration?
Lucid dreaming has been conclusively proved by science. It is recognized as a state different from waking and rem sleep.
Https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2737577/
it is possible to train yourself to trigger it
Yes. It also did not take place with the senses of this reality. Whatever it was I know that it was a conscious cognitive experience of the state of infinite being and infinite love. It lasted only a few seconds and when it ended, the senses of normal reality returned. I was back to tying my shoe.
I've never had a lucid dream but I came close by seeing myself wearing a T-shirt with the words "I am lucid dreaming" and STILL didnt get my rational circuits to jump. I may have gone into lucid dream state if I'd stuck with it longer but the training plays hell with sleep states so I quit trying to trigger after that example failed to make me realize I am dreaming. You need to trigger it by mentally saying "i am lucid dreaming" or words of that ilk in the real world so that you remember it inside the dream. Another method is to break the rules of this reality.e.g.try to push your fingers thru your hand in the real world. Wont work here but may work in dream where normal laws dont hold. The idea is that you are breaking the block on your rationality circuit while remembering about the real world inside your dream world. Real world not as a sense element but as a memory/thought in the dreamNice, thanks for the link.
What I was trying to say, however, is this: If I have a lucid dream tonight, can I be sure it is the real deal and not a dream about lucid dreaming? Without the schientific apparatus to measure brain activity?
How did you determine the sense of it having lasted a few seconds? did you have a sense of time passing or was it that the returning normal reality implied it?
Sounds like a profound experience either way, forgive my nosy prying.
Well that's not the Christian God, so I'm not sure what this refers to.If a separate god exists, I could never accept one that was conditional love even if that meant being assigned to a hell or some such. Especially then, in fact. Hate never breeds love.
Well the Christian God only accepts those who believe in him and follow his commands, so he is conditionally loving. And when many Xtians want their God to be cruel, they can dig up something in the OT. When they need him to be loving, they can dig up something in the NT. Hell is after all a staple control factor of the Xtian demographic.Well that's not the Christian God, so I'm not sure what this refers to.
Do share if possible...In reply to your 'Have you ever... "
Yes.
And yet the choice of salvation is offered to all. God is love and, as you say, love is unconditional.Well the Christian God only accepts those who believe in him and follow his commands, so he is conditionally loving...
The Straw Man argument is not really an argument.And when many Xtians want their God to be cruel ...
Much like the Tao, what can be spoken is not it.Do share if possible...
More like an observation?The Straw Man argument is not really an argument.
Much like the Tao, what can be spoken is not it.
I know that my personal 'it' can be explained in psychological terms. Doesn't mean the psychological explanation is correct, but just saying.
I'm a mystic, not a scientist.It could be. But you would have had to have the experience to really understand it. It was essentially experience of an unmatched reality that does not fit into the human language for description.
Plus, the mind itself has not been conclusively defined by priest or scientist. What is not the norm is usually discarded by science especially if it cannot be understood empirically.