The Lord's Prayer is an individual prayer? For peace in the heart 'that passes all understanding'
No, it's a common prayer, it starts, "Our Father".
See my recent post above on the tradition from the "Gospel of Thomas"
You trap into the trap of the Gnostic who taught that the world was not created by God but by a distinct "demiurg". No, this world is created by God. The meaning of "World" in this quote is different: it means the principles set in the society, setting up on material riches and power. Not so different today. There is room to follow God in this world, and anything else is vain in our present lives because this is where we are living, and it is for here and now that we received council.
Thank you, that is good to know. I usually use the translations of Abdullah Yusuf, Ali
I see this as a timeless prophecy, a vision of what happens to all the Messengers in every age and of the believers that embrace those Messengers.
And when thou prayest, thou shalt not be as the hypocrites are: for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and in the corners of the streets, that they may be seen of men. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward.
Indeed it does.
We do not have unity among religions, we do not have unity among countries, we do not have unity among races, we do not have unity between the rich and the poor. Where do we have unity? Unity is against the ways of humans.
That is not all what the teacher wants us to follow, but also wants us to be Jews, Christians, Muslims, Bahais, etc. and threatens us with dire consequences if we do not agree.
The "teacher" did not personally threaten anybody .. it is a warning that our
I have chosen this as an example for English "ye". In fact, I remembered that translation by Pickthall because it is wrong. Correct is, "do not take your fathers or brothers as Guardians if they prefer disbelief rather than faith. It's not about friendship, nor does it demand to cut the family ties. It's the particular role of the Wali that is to be avoided.
Atheists see reality differently. There is no Allah for them. And they live happily thereafter.
And why someone (in this case, Muhammad) should be considered the 'Guardian' (Wali, Wilayet. Yes, I know the meaning of these words) instead of someone's father or brothers? What evidence does he have to show?
Because the Wali is in charge of religious education.
But that is not the policy of this and many other forums. If we are not engaged is dialogues or multilogues, then what are we doing here? What they say may be negative in your consideration, but they are stating their belief. Don't feel sorry for us, we are perfectly happy, perhaps more than the theists, with our beliefs. Of course, I am a little bit different. I am an atheist and a fervent orthodox Hindu as well.
To think that just because one is atheist that they aren't interested in dialogue about their religion or that they have no religion is an assumption, and while that's often the case, it isn't always a correct one.
I don't consider anyone a fool. I'm considered a fool for arguing religion in the first place.If you consider people like us fools because your book tells you that we are, that's your prerogative, but know that I don't feel the same way about you.
Please see my post #197.
No. But atheism, by definition, is simply a lack of belief in any god(s). But that doesn't necessarily make an atheist irreligious. In fact, the majority of Buddhists are atheists.
Hinduism is quite diverse, with many beliefs and many schools of philosophy. Hindus can be atheists, theists, or, in my case, transtheists. There are likely as many different beliefs as there are Hindus.
Don't get me wrong. Certainly there are atheists that are dismissive of theists. There are even those that preach their path harder than most theists. But I've found the majority that participate in religious or faith-based forums want to learn why theists think as they do and even compare and contrast philosophies.
Ok my next question would be about worship. The definition of Religion: the belief in and worship of a superhuman power or powers, especially a God or gods.
I looked up transtheist because it's a new term to me and I can say I still don't understand it. Basically it read that godhood is not the highest level of spiritual enlightenment. Or spiritual achievement?Hinduism is quite diverse, with many beliefs and many schools of philosophy. Hindus can be atheists, theists, or, in my case, transtheists. There are likely as many different beliefs as there are Hindus.
Thank you for the thoughtful answer. I agree and can suggest that you can take something out of each religious belief and grow from it. Interestingly enough each religion I learn about more firmly cements for me my relationship with My God.