Christianity + Tarot cards.
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_Z_
from far far away
Bandit, hi
Thank you very much indeed bandit!
It is so refreshing to actually be understood [and a relief]! I did not mean to be disrespectful to anyone, but it is kinda like being asked if it is ok to pray to god - if we flip the argument! Then all the pagans say, ‘I wouldn’t advise it’, or ‘who needs it we have got the great mother’ – y’know.
I really don’t like Satan, and I find him his disciples and followers to be most infantile and ridiculous, moreover he does not exist according to my religion.
I think the person who referred to me as a Satanist is just not a very nice person at all! [You get them in all religions/groups] Most of the local Christian community are really nice people. It is just upsetting, so I wanted to get my point across so that people would not say things lightly that are actually very offensive – words can hurt more than the sword!
Ha – you’ll want plenty of coins in your spread then!
May I say that the cards are almost irrelevant, as are crystal balls etc? Once you know how they work, you can see the ebbs and flows of the Ether anyhow [but they are still useful tools, to help visualise], or talk directly to the ancestors. I use them on occasion or if asked, but I can use meditation to achieve the same, I thought I was communicating with a gift!
Oh why oh why is there Armageddon in my head! i hope christians of the future are like those here!
Tao equus,
Yes I agree, as are mind-yoga and meditation. no doubt if there was a spiritual Christian path then people like me would feel welcome in the church, rather than left out in the cold! I have the mythic tarot, it too is Greek based. I think the tarot were created to teach the hermetic apprentice the basis behind alchemy – which was basically a spiritualist route to god.
Path of one.
The aim of the church was to replace the old religions, which included runes etc. believing in one god is less dualistic than paganism and Jesus was certainly more peaceful [I am a pacifist too], But then a ‘no god/s’ theory is even less dualistic. I am moving towards the idea of a totally undefined god/spirit/self, there is danger in just believing in anything! so without definition [even as monotheistic!] god is not shaped, and the path enters a pure ‘space’. Instead of grasping we then Just ‘let go’ as if dust in the wind.
I don’t see why we cannot have both! I do. Divination is very earthly in my mind, I don’t really want to ask god if I the inquirer will get a pay rise! Or if someone may fall in love or have an affair etc. this side of divination is more to do with spiritual science, harmonics, synchronicity and what is going on in peoples heads around us. So in this sense it is like talking to our collective as people in the Ether.
Respect all
Z
Thank you very much indeed bandit!
It is so refreshing to actually be understood [and a relief]! I did not mean to be disrespectful to anyone, but it is kinda like being asked if it is ok to pray to god - if we flip the argument! Then all the pagans say, ‘I wouldn’t advise it’, or ‘who needs it we have got the great mother’ – y’know.I really don’t like Satan, and I find him his disciples and followers to be most infantile and ridiculous, moreover he does not exist according to my religion.
I think the person who referred to me as a Satanist is just not a very nice person at all! [You get them in all religions/groups] Most of the local Christian community are really nice people. It is just upsetting, so I wanted to get my point across so that people would not say things lightly that are actually very offensive – words can hurt more than the sword!
Ha – you’ll want plenty of coins in your spread then!
May I say that the cards are almost irrelevant, as are crystal balls etc? Once you know how they work, you can see the ebbs and flows of the Ether anyhow [but they are still useful tools, to help visualise], or talk directly to the ancestors. I use them on occasion or if asked, but I can use meditation to achieve the same, I thought I was communicating with a gift!
Oh why oh why is there Armageddon in my head! i hope christians of the future are like those here!
Tao equus,
Yes I agree, as are mind-yoga and meditation. no doubt if there was a spiritual Christian path then people like me would feel welcome in the church, rather than left out in the cold! I have the mythic tarot, it too is Greek based. I think the tarot were created to teach the hermetic apprentice the basis behind alchemy – which was basically a spiritualist route to god.
Path of one.
The aim of the church was to replace the old religions, which included runes etc. believing in one god is less dualistic than paganism and Jesus was certainly more peaceful [I am a pacifist too], But then a ‘no god/s’ theory is even less dualistic. I am moving towards the idea of a totally undefined god/spirit/self, there is danger in just believing in anything! so without definition [even as monotheistic!] god is not shaped, and the path enters a pure ‘space’. Instead of grasping we then Just ‘let go’ as if dust in the wind.
I don’t see why we cannot have both! I do. Divination is very earthly in my mind, I don’t really want to ask god if I the inquirer will get a pay rise! Or if someone may fall in love or have an affair etc. this side of divination is more to do with spiritual science, harmonics, synchronicity and what is going on in peoples heads around us. So in this sense it is like talking to our collective as people in the Ether.
Respect all
Z
"I do not feel obliged to believe that the same God who has endowed us with sense, reason, and intellect has intended us to forgo their use."
- Galileo Galilei
of course we know he weighed the same as a duck...
- Galileo Galilei
of course we know he weighed the same as a duck...
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Bandit
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_Z_ said:Bandit, hi
Thank you very much indeed bandit!
I really don’t like Satan, and I find him his disciples and followers to be most infantile and ridiculous, moreover he does not exist according to my religion.
I think the person who referred to me as a Satanist is just not a very nice person at all! [You get them in all religions/groups] Most of the local Christian community are really nice people. It is just upsetting, so I wanted to get my point across so that people would not say things lightly that are actually very offensive – words can hurt more than the sword!
Ha – you’ll want plenty of coins in your spread then!
May I say that the cards are almost irrelevant, as are crystal balls etc? Once you know how they work, you can see the ebbs and flows of the Ether anyhow [but they are still useful tools, to help visualise], or talk directly to the ancestors. I use them on occasion or if asked, but I can use meditation to achieve the same, I thought I was communicating with a gift!
Oh why oh why is there Armageddon in my head! i hope christians of the future are like those here!
Respect all
Z
i think this is why we have different religions Z. I choose the bible, you choose cards. i dont see you trying to take away my bible, do you see me trying to take away your cards?
now, i believe in a literal satan. so i guess the only thing you could do is undermind my experience with that spirit.
i dont talk to dead people but a couple of times my friends who passed on came to me & spoke, comforting me & that was it. that was all. i did not need cards or even the bible or anything for that to happen & i did not need to try & make it happen & i did not seek to try & make it happen again.
it happened & that is all it was.
may i just say, once you know how the bible & Jesus works, (i read the bible over & over...you read cards) you grow & grow & i am filled with joy & peace & there is so much packed in those pages & people just dont care about what it says. so that does not make me feel good sometimes. but hey, no skin off my back.
i know a card trick. you pick a card & memorize it & i can make you forget what card you picked. it is fun!
thank you Z, have a nice evening...i am off to the grinding mill for the night.
Faithfulservant
Well-Known Member
Friend_of_Fools said:
This is where we differ.. This is my reason for prayer. Talk things over with God.. hehe
Don't believe what? The quote was Galileo? That God endowed us with sense, reason, and intellect? Or that God intended us not to use sense, reason, and intellect?
I thought the quote was fun and fit with the thread. Didn't realize there were those here it would insult, or those that are ready to send the old boy back to the dungeon...
juantoo3
....whys guy.... ʎʇıɹoɥʇnɐ uoıʇsǝnb
Kindest Regards, wil!
There is always the possibility I missed something, but...I don't get it. Galileo weighed the same as a duck?wil said:
juantoo3
....whys guy.... ʎʇıɹoɥʇnɐ uoıʇsǝnb
A little more to the OP, I think there has been some great thoughts put out here. Some I agree with, some I don't (respectfully). I think a lot of it comes down to source and intent. If one goes looking, willfully and knowingly, then what you find may not actually be what you think it is. On the other hand, if it is your time and it is meant for you to have, it will come to you, without you seeking. At least, that is my experience. As to intent, if one seeks for selfish reasons, which may be no more than the simple "want" to know, again what you find may not actually be what you think it is. If your intent is to be in harmony with the IS, to be as God has in mind for you to be (and not what you want for yourself), again it will come to you. For any other purpose it will flee and elude you, so that even if some answer you desire appears, in my experience it is not a true answer.
Anybody here who uses fortune telling, in any shape or form, ever got told the winning lotto numbers?
My mom used to read cards (not tarot), read tea leaves, tip tables (anyone here ever tip tables?), ouija board, read palms, all that cr...ooops, stuff. Yeah, I learned how to do it all when I was a kid. And I quickly learned it lied to me.
BTW, anybody familiar with the psychomantium in Greece?
Anybody here who uses fortune telling, in any shape or form, ever got told the winning lotto numbers?
My mom used to read cards (not tarot), read tea leaves, tip tables (anyone here ever tip tables?), ouija board, read palms, all that cr...ooops, stuff. Yeah, I learned how to do it all when I was a kid. And I quickly learned it lied to me.
BTW, anybody familiar with the psychomantium in Greece?
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mee
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yes it does speak volumes i would say . religious leaders are those who should set an example and if they are representing the God of the bible i would think that they should put Gods way of doing things first and not look to other means for directionTao_Equus said:
LET them be. Blind guides is what they are. If, then, a blind man guides a blind man, both will fall into a pit....matthew 15;14
(Isaiah 9:16) And those who are leading this people on prove to be the ones causing [them] to wander; and those of them who are being led on, the ones who are being confused
(John 3:19) Now this is the basis for judgment, that the light has come into the world but men have loved the darkness rather than the light, for their works were wicked.
(2 Thessalonians 2:12) in order that they all may be judged because they did not believe the truth but took pleasure in unrighteousness.
(2 Timothy 4:3) For there will be a period of time when they will not put up with the healthful teaching, but, in accord with their own desires, they will accumulate teachers for themselves to have their ears tickled ........... yes i would say it does speak volumes
seattlegal
Mercuræn Buddhist
Isn't that a mirror-chamber that people use to speak to the dead?
juantoo3
....whys guy.... ʎʇıɹoɥʇnɐ uoıʇsǝnb
Kindest Regards, seattlegal!
Haven't seen you around a lot lately. Probably just focused on different areas.
Pretty much yes, except it was my understanding that it was a big reflecting pool, covered over by a building that kept it in the dark. If I am told correctly, it seems the seekers were put through a ritual cleansing before entering to seek their loved ones or have questions answered.
This place was supposedly located "just" outside the gates of Hades, which in Greek terms is the farthest-most Southeast corner of the Greek mainland.
My interest is mostly archeological. But for those here looking to contact spirits, it would seem to me the best would be to go straight to the source. Look your consulting spirit straight in the eye, so to speak. That is, if you dare.
Me? I ain't that brave.
Haven't seen you around a lot lately. Probably just focused on different areas.
seattlegal said:
Pretty much yes, except it was my understanding that it was a big reflecting pool, covered over by a building that kept it in the dark. If I am told correctly, it seems the seekers were put through a ritual cleansing before entering to seek their loved ones or have questions answered.
This place was supposedly located "just" outside the gates of Hades, which in Greek terms is the farthest-most Southeast corner of the Greek mainland.
My interest is mostly archeological. But for those here looking to contact spirits, it would seem to me the best would be to go straight to the source. Look your consulting spirit straight in the eye, so to speak. That is, if you dare.
Me? I ain't that brave.
juantoo3
....whys guy.... ʎʇıɹoɥʇnɐ uoıʇsǝnb
Come to think of it, I remember now of hearing of something when I was a kid.
Something about standing in front of a mirror in the dark and calling for "bloody Mary" to come.
I was never brave (stupid?) enough to try, but I was told by some that it worked. Of course, they also said that some who tried went insane. I took it all to be BS.
Anybody here ever try this?
Something about standing in front of a mirror in the dark and calling for "bloody Mary" to come.
I was never brave (stupid?) enough to try, but I was told by some that it worked. Of course, they also said that some who tried went insane. I took it all to be BS.
Anybody here ever try this?
Faithfulservant
Well-Known Member
Anyone familiar with channeling? I was living next to a neighbor who had a friend that channeled.. she was supposedly being tutored by JZ Knight who channeled Ramtha.. I went to my neighbors house after having an argument with my boyfriend at the time and this friend channeled her spirit.. I kid you not.. Her voice changed.. her demeanor changed.. she had this weird accent. Needless to say the hair on my body stood straight up. She then proceeded to tell me things about my relationship with my boyfriend that I never told anyone. I prayed so hard during this asking God to protect me because I had the utter feeling of danger.. I left that neighbors house and prayed till I felt that danger feeling pass.
I had always been curious about the supernatural and I found a deck of tarot cards.. I read a book and did a complex layout and I freaked myself out. The cards were straight up without a doubt hitting the nail on the head about every aspect of my life. I burned the cards.
Another time (this was more recent) I found a deck of the cards they use to test psychic people. I didnt even look at what symbols the deck used. I held up a card with the back towards me and the first card.. the first symbol that popped in my head was a circle.. I looked at the card and thought. no way that was pure chance.. laughing a bit to myself I tried the second card and the first symbol that popped in my head was 3 wavy lines I looked at the card and threw the deck of cards away.. not laughing anymore.
What I learned from these things is that if I open my mind and my life to powers other than God.. Someone other than God will take advantage. Im a prime target because I belong to God and that other being hates that and wants nothing more than to wedge himself in between God and myself.
It comes to me that the helmet of salvation is the mind of Christ. We protect ourselves.. our very mind.. our thought processes.. by keeping Christ there always.
FS
I had always been curious about the supernatural and I found a deck of tarot cards.. I read a book and did a complex layout and I freaked myself out. The cards were straight up without a doubt hitting the nail on the head about every aspect of my life. I burned the cards.
Another time (this was more recent) I found a deck of the cards they use to test psychic people. I didnt even look at what symbols the deck used. I held up a card with the back towards me and the first card.. the first symbol that popped in my head was a circle.. I looked at the card and thought. no way that was pure chance.. laughing a bit to myself I tried the second card and the first symbol that popped in my head was 3 wavy lines I looked at the card and threw the deck of cards away.. not laughing anymore.
What I learned from these things is that if I open my mind and my life to powers other than God.. Someone other than God will take advantage. Im a prime target because I belong to God and that other being hates that and wants nothing more than to wedge himself in between God and myself.
It comes to me that the helmet of salvation is the mind of Christ. We protect ourselves.. our very mind.. our thought processes.. by keeping Christ there always.
FS
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Bandit
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Faithfulservant said:
i know what you are talking about. i did that once & it reminded me of the time when Jesus was tempted by Satan. i was literally being presented with this fake power to rule the world & i did not like it. the Holy Ghost would not let me even go there & i dont need to do that again. i also have experiences like what you are saying with the cards, but i never did it, but have been around it. the voice changes to real low, they shake, their eyes roll back into their heads & they speak a different language. it is not the Holy Ghost & fire with tongues language through prayer & it is not the same thing as meditation as in THINK ON THESE THINGS.. whatsoever things are lovely...
i could say a lot, but i think i have said enough in this thread.
i am so glad i have Jesus to walk through the fire with.
juantoo3 said:
no i never tried that. but i saw part of a movie once where they were doing that but instead they were calling the candy man & they had to say it three times & he came through the mirror. it was more like a fiction vampire thing & it was not really good enough to get me to sit through watching it.
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mee
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It is natural that everyone should want to know what the future holds. The desire to secure good fortune and to avert what may be harmful is also universal. That is why people throughout the ages have looked to spirits and deities for guidance. In so doing, they became involved in spiritism, magic, astrology, and other superstitious practices. People in the past wore amulets and talismans to protect themselves, and they turned to medicine men and shamans for cures. People today still carry "Saint" Christopher medals or wear "good luck" charms, and they have their séances, Ouija boards, crystal balls, horoscopes, and tarot cards. Where spiritism and superstition are concerned, peopleseems to have changed little
the Bible shows that fortune-tellers and wicked spirits go hand in hand. For example, Acts 16:16-19 mentions "a demon of divination" that enabled a certain girl to practice "the art of prediction." However, her ability to foretell the future was lost when the demon was expelled. Clearly, divination is a bait used by the demons to lure people into their trap
the Bible shows that fortune-tellers and wicked spirits go hand in hand. For example, Acts 16:16-19 mentions "a demon of divination" that enabled a certain girl to practice "the art of prediction." However, her ability to foretell the future was lost when the demon was expelled. Clearly, divination is a bait used by the demons to lure people into their trap
I'm halfway through Ramtha (JZ's 'White Book') it is a good read, will irritate many at times, but at other times there is thoughts and insights and comments that will spark something in everyone. My first encounter with the school was another 'yeah right!'
Seems I keep fooling myself into thinking I'm becoming more tolerant and less judgemental...but spirit keeps putting lessons in front of me to indicate otherwise.
taijasi
Gnōthi seauton
Another perspective on Tarot, channelling, or what-have-you, is that these are methods of divination which help us to take the blinders off. In so doing, you may actually come to see, know, and love yourself more, others more, and G-d more. To do this, requires an open mind, as well as an open heart.
If these things scare you - and understandably so, given media hype, movies like Friday the 13th, and the rampant astralism (emotional sensationalism) still associated with Ouija boards and the like - then just avoid it. But don't pronounce judgments just because it isn't your bag. While you can quote scripture until you turn blue in the face trying to defend, essentially, closed-mindedness ... I can prove to an open-minded person, beyond a modicum of doublt, that such tools of divination can be used to legitimately and safely contact one's own Soul, angelic presences, or in rare circumstances (granted), even Christ himself ... (though certainly the Christ-spirit is as near as one's own heart!).
I would submit that not every person - Christian or otherwise - who claims to hold daily conversations with Christ, God, angels, prophets, or other quasi-spiritual figures ... is doing so. It upsets many people to find out that Deity does not leave Deity's high post as Lord of Cosmos to bend to every whim, beck & call of selfish groveling (aka, `prayer,' as some dare to call it). Indeed, it offends some to find that there are more important things going on even in our little world - much less the Universe - than to carry on this way. Nevertheless, the God-in-a-box syndrome seems quite prevalent in some parts, almost worse than I've ever seen it - but I keep my TV turned off more these days, so ostrich-like, I pretend it's not so bad.
I know plenty of folks who are convinced that by dangling a crystal or pendulum, they can ascertain cosmic insight and ultimate truth. I suppose I believed something alone these lines at one time. I also picked up such rubbish as the supposedly-channelled works of Elizabeth Clare Prophet and the `I am' folks. It was a hard blow to my glamorized astral body to realize that this stuff is well-meaning at best. If anyone or anything is being channeled in (these specific) teachings, it is but the channeler's own conscience, or her accumulated spiritual wisdom - not really any superior to mine or yours.
In some cases, yes, a discarnate entity - usually a deceased & earthbound human - may come through. Or, as often occurs, the person moves on, and the spiritual `shell' manifests, claiming to be Uncle Joe. Here is part of the danger (or difficulty) with spiritualism, is that only a high spiritual discernment can recognize that Joe has long since moves on, and the thing claiming to be Joe - harmless enough in many instances, is simply the astral residue (his vacated, outward personality, so to speak). Occasionally such "spirits" as people insist on calling them, are troublesome, or outright evil. And of course, there are playful nature spirits (lesser Devas) which also love to confuse mediums, play at Ouija boards through our psychic auras, etc. Again, they are mostly harmless, though sometimes spooky.
The tarot, quite frankly, should not be relegated to the same category of divination methods as some of these things ... and to discuss channeling at length, or get into Ouija boards, is to speak of another topic - or a much broader subject.
Tarot, quite simply, means The Book. You know, like, The Bible. And both works were carefully written (speaking of the New Testament, that is) in a language of symbolism in order to help the aspirant (spiritual seeker) to get in touch with his own Higher Nature (aka, God, or Divinity, as Christians put it). When one understands deeply the intended language - the symbolism - of the Tarot, and when readings are done in a spirit of selflessness, with the intention of assisting one's fellow soul (and preferably not just for shits & grins), then amazing things can happen. Truly, the same Divine Magic as works itself through saints and soothsayers, can take hold. And not always are things solely of the future revealed, but often much insight can be gained into the present, or into past conditions that have led up to, or influenced, the present.
In this, the Tarot is the same as ... prayer. But of course, not everyone will approach it this way, and admittedly, I have as much skill with a Tarot deck as with rocket surgery. But again, it's more about purity of motive than anything - and I agree wholeheartedly with the statement that ultimately we don't need Tarot, other methods of Divination - or for that matter, a church, a priest, creeds or bibles - in order to get in touch with G-d.
If these things scare you - and understandably so, given media hype, movies like Friday the 13th, and the rampant astralism (emotional sensationalism) still associated with Ouija boards and the like - then just avoid it. But don't pronounce judgments just because it isn't your bag. While you can quote scripture until you turn blue in the face trying to defend, essentially, closed-mindedness ... I can prove to an open-minded person, beyond a modicum of doublt, that such tools of divination can be used to legitimately and safely contact one's own Soul, angelic presences, or in rare circumstances (granted), even Christ himself ... (though certainly the Christ-spirit is as near as one's own heart!).
I would submit that not every person - Christian or otherwise - who claims to hold daily conversations with Christ, God, angels, prophets, or other quasi-spiritual figures ... is doing so. It upsets many people to find out that Deity does not leave Deity's high post as Lord of Cosmos to bend to every whim, beck & call of selfish groveling (aka, `prayer,' as some dare to call it). Indeed, it offends some to find that there are more important things going on even in our little world - much less the Universe - than to carry on this way. Nevertheless, the God-in-a-box syndrome seems quite prevalent in some parts, almost worse than I've ever seen it - but I keep my TV turned off more these days, so ostrich-like, I pretend it's not so bad.
I know plenty of folks who are convinced that by dangling a crystal or pendulum, they can ascertain cosmic insight and ultimate truth. I suppose I believed something alone these lines at one time. I also picked up such rubbish as the supposedly-channelled works of Elizabeth Clare Prophet and the `I am' folks. It was a hard blow to my glamorized astral body to realize that this stuff is well-meaning at best. If anyone or anything is being channeled in (these specific) teachings, it is but the channeler's own conscience, or her accumulated spiritual wisdom - not really any superior to mine or yours.
In some cases, yes, a discarnate entity - usually a deceased & earthbound human - may come through. Or, as often occurs, the person moves on, and the spiritual `shell' manifests, claiming to be Uncle Joe. Here is part of the danger (or difficulty) with spiritualism, is that only a high spiritual discernment can recognize that Joe has long since moves on, and the thing claiming to be Joe - harmless enough in many instances, is simply the astral residue (his vacated, outward personality, so to speak). Occasionally such "spirits" as people insist on calling them, are troublesome, or outright evil. And of course, there are playful nature spirits (lesser Devas) which also love to confuse mediums, play at Ouija boards through our psychic auras, etc. Again, they are mostly harmless, though sometimes spooky.
The tarot, quite frankly, should not be relegated to the same category of divination methods as some of these things ... and to discuss channeling at length, or get into Ouija boards, is to speak of another topic - or a much broader subject.
Tarot, quite simply, means The Book. You know, like, The Bible. And both works were carefully written (speaking of the New Testament, that is) in a language of symbolism in order to help the aspirant (spiritual seeker) to get in touch with his own Higher Nature (aka, God, or Divinity, as Christians put it). When one understands deeply the intended language - the symbolism - of the Tarot, and when readings are done in a spirit of selflessness, with the intention of assisting one's fellow soul (and preferably not just for shits & grins), then amazing things can happen. Truly, the same Divine Magic as works itself through saints and soothsayers, can take hold. And not always are things solely of the future revealed, but often much insight can be gained into the present, or into past conditions that have led up to, or influenced, the present.
In this, the Tarot is the same as ... prayer. But of course, not everyone will approach it this way, and admittedly, I have as much skill with a Tarot deck as with rocket surgery.
But again, it's more about purity of motive than anything - and I agree wholeheartedly with the statement that ultimately we don't need Tarot, other methods of Divination - or for that matter, a church, a priest, creeds or bibles - in order to get in touch with G-d. protokletos
Faithfulservant
Well-Known Member
I lived 15 mins from Yelm WA practically my whole life.. We used to drive by JZ Knights mansion and gawk.. you could see the chandeliers in the horse barns and the complete seclusion of the place.. because we lived so close there was a huge uprising of channeling in my area..
I personally believe that God put those blinders there on purpose. I always found it curious that we only use a small portion of our brains and believing that Gods creation of the human body is such a wondrous thing.. That everything has its purpose whether we use it or not. Maybe we have the ability for supernatural locked in our very brains.. but for whatever reason we are not supposed to use them because God wants us to go to Him and Satans great weapon from back in Eden is that we could be like God. Its all a great mystery and I find that I just have to trust God and let Him guide me in my life.
FS
I personally believe that God put those blinders there on purpose. I always found it curious that we only use a small portion of our brains and believing that Gods creation of the human body is such a wondrous thing.. That everything has its purpose whether we use it or not. Maybe we have the ability for supernatural locked in our very brains.. but for whatever reason we are not supposed to use them because God wants us to go to Him and Satans great weapon from back in Eden is that we could be like God. Its all a great mystery and I find that I just have to trust God and let Him guide me in my life.
FS