Matrixism - A religion based on The Matrix

I found these articles – any Matrixist should read them:

One by William Merrin: The Matrix and Jean Baudrillard
William Merrin is an Associate Professor in Media Studies at Swansea University

Another by James Rovira: Baudrillard, The Matrix Trilogy, and the future of Religion
James Rovira is a writer and commentator.

I have shamelessly borrowed from the above. My worlds, so single quotes:

On the surface, as Merrin states, we have 'state-of-the-art camera-effects with all the blockbuster action movie clichés: the lone figure against the system, assassins in smart suits, a mysterious but influential figure, a femme fatale; a martial arts/military hardware mix of designer violence; all in very cool noir shades: black clothes, black shades, black leather; and a good old fashioned love story.'

Layered on that we have overt religious symbols and philosophical ideas.

But Matrixism, either as 'religion' or 'philosophy' seems to have missed the point, and swallowed the film's blue pill.

"The Matrix Trilogy derives its aesthetic in part from the sociological theory of Jean Baudrillard, whose Simulacra and Simulation makes its appearance in The Matrix as Thomas Anderson (Neo) opens it to a chapter entitled "On Nihilism"... "
Rivera picks up that Neo opens the book at the halfway point, but the page revealed is the title of the final chapter, "On Nihilism", which is not in the middle of the book, so it would appear that "the directors deliberately placed this chapter in the shot to direct viewers to a specific referential point for the film, a placement which may also establish the central trope of the first film, computer technology as nihilism."

"... the films can be described as deliberate attempts to validate Baudrillard’s theory, creating an effectively generic sign system to represent the process of enlightenment, one so effectively generic that any and every connection – from Christ to Gödel to Buddhism – is relevant, whether or not it directly informs the films or is even known to the directors."
James Rovira – emphasis mine.

The book sequence begins at 1:50 (nice touch that his room number is 101).

The age-old philosophical problems in a world of virtual reality technologies: "It's Plato's Cave, captain, but not as we know it." Now, the shadows are more real than the real.
 
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I suddenly find technology-based religion / philosophy interesting, not compelling but interesting. Like we had Plato's Cave when the latest and greatest technology was a fire. Then when the latest in technology was a town crier, or a jongleur that went from town to town we caused Wars and conflict with that. Then of course it was print material and books pushing conspiracy theories. Then came radio HG Wells and War of the Worlds. Right on to television and instant information being broadcast. So now the latest and greatest is programming and computers and enters the Matrix! Would it be going out on a limb to say their next technology will make us think that we are all inside of it?

And the fact that they and the religions claims that we are of the world and not of the real world that is always the realm I'm somebody else controlling pulling our strings. Something that always has been and always will be... A mystery evidently
 
somebody else controlling pulling our strings.
The spacetime dimension of nature parameter is fixed, but within that we have free will? We can choose which side of the street to walk on?
 
Morpheus -
"What is, 'real'? How do you define , 'real' ?"

From the IONS Archives -
"The faculty of consciousness is something we all share, but, what goes on in our consciousness varies widely.
This is our personal reality, the reality we each know and experience.
Most of the time we forget that this is just our personal reality and think we are experiencing reality directly.
We see the ground beneath our feet. We can pick up a rock and throw it through the air.
We can feel the heat from a fire, and smell it's burning wood.
It feels as if we are in direct contact with the world "out there".
But this is not so.

The colors, textures, smells and sounds we experience are not really out there.
They are all images of reality constructed in the mind."
www.noetic.org

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Of course they aren't.

But we are not a simulation or program...

Sigh

Again, if the future is a known, apart from time (Which is the greater reality and truth),
then wil, yes we are in a program of sorts.
Shall we walk on this side of the street or other?
Feel free to choose, however?
It is a known.
Apart from time.
 
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"Blue Pill".
Lol....like the common religious trope.... "But what if we are right?"

The thing is brother you have done nothing to convince anyone (as hard as you have tried) that this is worthy of consideration in any way. Not even a reason that the knowledge would benefit me in studying it further. Like just about every other actual religion has.

I mean at least pastafarians are fun and rastafarians have weed.
 
Again, I said Matrixism is not a separate religion. But, a perspective on the Christian Faith, answering various questions some believers have raised.

wil -
"Not even a reason that the knowledge would benefit me in studying it further.
Like just about every other actual religion has.

I mean at least pastafarians are fun and rastafarians have weed."

Back when the Iron Curtain was still in force, and people were being ripped from their families, put in gulags and mental institutions, persecuted and tortured for just owning a Bible, or have a prayer meeting in their houses, there were things to be concerned about regarding their faith other than "what benefitted them".
Other than somehow staying safe and sound bodily. Which was not always the case unfortunately.
Ever read, "Tortured for Christ"?
I guess not, as you wouldn't see it benefiting you much.

Personal benefit is not what the Christian Faith is about, nor Matrixism.
 
Again...sorry but I see zero link between matrixism and Christianity.

Does anyone?

Second, please.to explain what Christianity is about if it is not for the personal benefit to your soul and that of your fellow man?
 
For one wil, Jesus did have plenty to say about "The World".
As did Morpheus in the film. True?

I recall Christ also told someone who would follow Him, that he had to go bury a relative first...
Christ replied to him, "Let the dead bury the dead, you follow me."

But, your not interested either in the Christian Faith, nor Matrixism.

Blue Pill.
 
For one wil, Jesus did have plenty to say about "The World".
As did Morpheus in the film. True?
Oh my... The film.had good writers!
But, your not interested either in the Christian Faith, nor Matrixism.
Taught Sunday school 20 years...been discussing metaphysical christianity and New Thought here for just a bit...lol.

But I keep forgetting...you have a corner.on truth...

Does it go like this in all forums you try?

Do you wonder why....or already know?

Blue pill
 
It feels as if we are in direct contact with the world "out there".
But this is not so.

How about other people? Are they also just appearing in your subjective experience? Are you alone?

If not, how to connect with others across the void of sense impressions once removed? All communication goes via the senses, all intimacy...
 
Again, if the future is a known, apart from time (Which is the greater reality and truth) ...
It is a known.
Have you read the commentaries of the Traditions on this issue?
 
Again, I said Matrixism is not a separate religion. But, a perspective on the Christian Faith, answering various questions some believers have raised.
It may well be a perspective, but it's a deeply flawed one – if it answers questions, then the questioner hasn't really looked very far. That's not what movies do. Hollywood blockbusters telegraph their message, in this case with names like 'Morpheus', 'Neo', 'Trinity' and 'Zion'. It's what the film-maker Peter Greenaway rails at regarding the movie industry – the only art-form that requires no effort from its audience. Who's message is, "Don't think. Eat".

If you think about it, the premise of Matrixism refutes the holistic message of Christianity. Remember that when God made the world, He saw at each step it was good (Genesis 1:3, 10, 12, 18, 21, 25), and the evening of the sixth day saw the whole was "very good" (v31). By the same token, the violence of The Matrix indicates the essential failure of the players to transform the world in the way Christ and Scripture intends. The world will not be saved by violence ...

It's more pseudo-Gnostic than Christian. The red pill/blue pill dichotomy is basically a Manichean dualism.
 
For one wil, Jesus did have plenty to say about "The World".
He loved the world. It's all about Love. Morpheus fears it.

I recall Christ also told someone who would follow Him, that he had to go bury a relative first...
Christ replied to him, "Let the dead bury the dead, you follow me."
Here's the thing – At face value, Christ is telling the man to break the Fifth Commandment (Honour thy father and thy mother) and indeed break the commandment He Himself gives (love thy neighbour as thyself) ...
 
The colors, textures, smells and sounds we experience are not really out there.
They are all images of reality constructed in the mind."
Here's the crux: How does Neo know ... indeed how can Neo know ... that the blue pill/red pill is nothing more than a placebo? An algorithm to catch exactly the kind of 'there's more to it than this' thoughts which will inevitably pop up in the program?

It's ultimately hopeless, surely?
 
The colors, textures, smells and sounds we experience are not really out there.
They are all images of reality constructed in the mind."
And yet common to all minds?

The error here is a failure to distinguish between subjective and objective.
The world we experience is objectively out there.
How we experience it is subjectively in here.
To confuse the two is to compound an error.

Atma does not deny Maya – that's a common western error.

The art is to discern between, to use the scholastic terms, 'substance' and 'accidents'.
 
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