lunamoth
Episcopalian
Sounds beautiful dauer! I want to live in your world. ![Smile :) :)](data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7)
Alright, well, it's time for me to answer my question I think. What follows is not what I believe will happen or what I believe is ultimately the best possible reality or even necessarily what I hope will happen. Rather it is meant to convey a more subtle sentiment beyond the literal words, the heart, that I think can be found to some degree in all of these "time to come" prophecies if one looks hard enough, and the way in which I describe it right now is simply the image which speaks to me most strongly at this moment in time.
First, I want there to be some sort of figurehead to this change, even if this individual is only a mascot. And I want this person to tell a lot of good jokes (nothing too dirty) and stories, and hug everybody immediately. I want this person to listen, to really listen, when people talk, instead of waiting for an opportunity to speak. And I want this person to hear too. And I want this individual to be like a chiropractor of the soul. You go talk to this person, they make a few adjustments, give you some exercises to do, and you're in a better state, but not without work on your part of course.
And I don't want there to be anything magical or miraculous or supernatural about this person, because I think that would make all of their traits and behaviors that much less miraculous.
Edited to add (I also would want this person to have flaws, just like everybody else, so that this individual would be coping with what we all cope with. Maybe the person could even openly struggle with some things, even serious things.)
I want there to be as much variety as there is in religion now, if not more. But I want everybody to agree on one thing: no religion is wrong, although we may not want that religion for ourselves, and its system of ethics may even be a little different from our own, or the purpose it purports. And from that I want everyone on Earth to be able to respect and honor each other's belief systems.
I don't want anymore war. I want instead that humanity should be a true global community. And instead of a penal system, I want a rehabilitative system that recognizes a criminal is really someone suffering from dis-ease. And I do want there to be places too, for those who cannot be rehabilitated, but I want them to be more humane, because if someone can't be rehabilitated back into society, I don't think we can blame them for that.
And I don't want physics to change. I want there to be cures to all of the really terrible diseases though, the ones that take away those we love young, or cause us to live with crippling disabilities, or that turn our parents and grandparents into people who no longer recognize us, or no longer remind us of the able figures of our youth.
And people I would want to spend their time doing whatever they delighted in most, so long as they did no harm to others. Some might spend their time in meditation, others studying, others at the beach. I don't think it would be good if we no longer had obligations, to family, to community, and I don't think it would be good if there was no need to learn. But I would like technology to be advanced enough that we can all manage a four day work week, and money to be balanced enough that everyone is able to devote their three days off to what they find meaningful and/or enjoyable.
And I still want children to be children, to live in familial structures with parents, to go to school in order to learn, and progress until adulthood. It feels like that growth that happens is something essential, that shouldn't be traded away.
And I'd like that people live where they want to live, in isolation or with a community, and that all have the means to live in comfortable environments.
And I really don't think that this would come to pass overnight. But I think that when it did happen, it would be like the final hammer blow, the finishing touch that completes things, not that the world would be finished and we would no longer grow, but that at that time it would be recognizable and people across the globe could say, "We did it. We made it. We achieved it. We're here."
So those are descriptions that are really a snapshot of one way that at this moment I might want to picture it as, intended not to place emphasis so much on the specifics, but instead to point beyond the words at what is being related emotively. I hope it can serve as some inspiration or encouragement for those who have held back from sharing, but if not that's okay too.
Dauer
Isn't dreaming special.
Dauer,
A beautiful image indeed!
This post of yours brings up an interesting struggle I have in seeing the world the way God must see it. A difficult enough task for a human, but the sages and mystics of the world have told us that everything is unfolding as it should, that "All shall be well and all manner of things shall be well" Even the Buddha is depicted as smiling though he has seen behind the veil of maya.
So why do I still perceive unrest? Why do I see suffering? This world that I percieve, (admittedly my vision is limited) so full of horrors alongside visions of pure bliss is far from being perfect.
I must have a lot of growing to do before I can see what the spiritual masters have seen.
Peace
Mark
Ciel,
I wasn't suggesting God should have flaws. I said that the figurehead of a time-to-come, who I stated I didn't think should be supernatural, would feel more right with flaws, more relevant and real.
Dauer
But as representative is there any difference?
But your post is beautiful, whatever way because it goes beyond the "me".
It is outside it's self, it is subtle sentiment beyond words.
Genesis 3:22 said:22 And Jehovah God went on to say: “Here the man has become like one of us in knowing good and bad, and now in order that he may not put his hand out and actually take [fruit] also from the tree of life and eat and live to time indefinite,—”
Rumi's -How can we be polished if we can't take the rubbing?
I don't think G-d sees any evil, man's version of G-d at times is evil, but not G-d.
I've gone through as all of us many deaths in my family. Many bad times, debilitating illnesses, forclosures, divorce, losing everything, fires, floods, starting over...
I can never see the good in it all while I am in it. G-d can. Our souls are growing, learning, moving forward. Post script, I am alive and breathing. Post script for my loved ones that have transitioned...I don't know. Are they headed to a heaven, or reincarnated on earth, or back to ashes. I don't know. But I believe thier souls are still learning, and learned a lot from their time here in 3d and their passing to the next phase.
I can't see the good while I'm in it. But I know it is there, and I know we all grow from it, and in time I realize it is that very path that got me here, and with any changes to that path, things would not be as they are.
I think spirit is doing fine...that your beautiful utopian world is but a choice, and one for us to choose. Truth is we choose differently all the time, but the more we, the more I choose tolerance, the more I choose peace, the more I choose health, the more I choose love, the more I glorify breath, each breath, sight, each sight....
The closer we are to the utopia G-d intends for us, the closer we are to the utopia you describe...but if it were given...without effort, without choice...like a lottery winner we would lose it...we need to know that we have choice and choose it...every day, every minute, every second...
And we need all those around us to know we are making that choice..so when we wander off our path...we can be nudged back on...
You are G-d, in the image, with the power....just need to be aware of that our perceptions, thoughts, words and actions are constantly creating our world that our choices are either choosing the Utopia G-d has for us or as we condemn others we are maintaining the status quo.
Is that a nudge I am contemplating? Was I too condemning of myself and society, help me out with your thought and questions.Wil,
Was that really you writing those first few paragraphs, or the very same God of the status quo?
- c -
Is that a nudge I am contemplating? Was I too condemning of myself and society, help me out with your thought and questions.
hmmm..."something", now this is where I always got in trouble with my first wife, trying to discern what she meant as I was to daft to decipher the riddle while she insisted I read her mind. Now this "something" see I don't know if you are referring to my inadequacies, 'the devil' or whetehr I should be shaking my fist at the heavens.Dare I say, not condemning enough of a "something" that would put you and others through such measures. I do believe God does see good and evil, but sometimes through the weight of the balance the power, God has been unable to sway the lower realms that gain their manifestations through the hardships of humanity.
hmmm..."something", now this is where I always got in trouble with my first wife, trying to discern what she meant as I was to daft to decipher the riddle while she insisted I read her mind. Now this "something" see I don't know if you are referring to my inadequacies, 'the devil' or whetehr.
ah...if I am understanding you correctly that is exactly what I've grown out of. I accept responsibility for causing, attracting or asking for that which goes on around me.Wil,
I promise you the "something" is nothing personal to you.
To rephrase it, I would say neither is it personal to God
peace - c -
ah...if I am understanding you correctly that is exactly what I've grown out of. I accept responsibility for causing, attracting or asking for that which goes on around me.