Faithfulservant
1John 5:6 This is He who came by water and blood--Jesus Christ; not only by water, but by water and blood. And it is the Spirit who bears witness, because the Spirit is truth. 7 For there are three that bear witness in heaven: the Father, the Word, and the Holy Spirit; and these three are one. 8 And there are three that bear witness on earth: the Spirit, the water, and the blood; and these three agree as one.9 If we receive the witness of men, the witness of God is greater; for this is the witness of God which He has testified of His Son.
If one decides they ALL decide because they are one.. they bear witness with each other.. they agree with each other..
I'm gonna post the samething I said so you can read it again. I dont think you understood what I said and I dont know what you wrote has to do what I said...Here it is again: "
The Holy Spirit testifies of Jesus and leaders sinners to calvery where they meet Christ. Moreover, He leads them in life through the process of santifcation, whereby they grow in God's truth and are transformed into the image of Jesus. This is either by the reading the word, or hearing the word preached. That said, What Bible verse says that the Holy Spirit will reveal all truth to all people any time He wants to?
Matthew 23:10 And do not be called teachers; for One is your Teacher, the Christ.I believe that God teaches us through mere men... but these men cant make up thier own doctrines.. they cant pull something out of scriptures that isnt there..and claim its in context.. all I have to do is look at the fruit of it.. its hurtful and harmful to tell people that if they dont accept Jesus its because God doesnt want them to.. Foreknowledge and predestination is for believers... not unbelievers.. God preknew who would choose Him... he didnt chose them because of it... He chose them because they WANTED Him.. Its kind of strange but when I was doing a study the Spirit fed me some meat that I believe pertains to this. If you want i will share it with you.. Ive posted it somewhere else already..
Please share it. I want to know where the Bible says that God chose us because "He foresaw we would have faith." That said, ALL scripture, including election, is to used both for believers and unbelievers. You probably assume bad fruit and so you build your judgment on that.
Who did you ask the questions to?? Im seriously doubting you asked God.
I didnt even ask a question? Why do I feel you're reading something that I'm not saying?
I am judging the fruit of your teaching and thats my entire issue with it.. Its not biblical and its destructive divisive elitist arrogant prideful self righteous and not in the least legalistic. .
You ought to seek God on what you're taking about. Read all of what I said since I spoke about Calvinism and I never said anything unbiblical. I never said that God will cast away anyone that wants Him and that only those who dont want God will go to Hell. Moreover, I said that God's choice is not baised on my supposed goodness because I have no righteouness. So question? How is that arrogant or proud? I cant say that I'm suprised by your assumptions and your attitude thought. Most people who dont understand these subjects act that way, at first. I would only encourage you to study this without being bias and pray.
Its not in the bible its construed by a couple of scriptures.. it does not edify the body..
LoL. These teachings have more value in edfication that you are even aware of now. I cant even explain, but you dont even understand them right now. I can tell you're speaking from assumptions and I'll be glad to explain these doctrines and have you compare them with scripture to see if they are of the devil or of God.
it sets a stumbling block.. and it certainly does no glory to God by limiting Him to what YOU think He will do and why He will do it..
There you go again. I wish you would actually read my stuff. I so hate aruging with Christians! If you read what I said instead of juming to conclussions and assuming, you'd see that I gave God ALL the glory. Again I'd like to start this thing over. Id just ask that you humble yourself and read what I say. Ultimately I can be WRONG. But, as it were now, I dont beleive so. I'm conviced that calvinism is the gospel. I'd like to discuss it with you and have you explain why you dont believe though - that would be great. I'll start a new thread taking it from the begining.
You think God has revealed this truth to you...
Yes. Because I humbled myself and asked "why would anyone who witness believe this?"
this gut reaction the Spirit gives me when I hear false doctrine is working overtime right now..
Dont go by "gut feelings" but instead by scripture. Always Scripture Alone!!
last time I had this reaction I was sitting in the pew listening to some guy tell me that we soulsleep..I trust this voice a lot mor e now than I did back then... the scriptures Im finding to defend myself with are confirming that gut feeling..
Awesome! Find scriptures that say I am wrong and I'll be humble enough to listen. I never want to believe something just because I like it! By the way, Soul Sleep is wrong!
It has absolutely nothing to do with salvation.. its basically saying that your saved because God wanted you to be saved but your brother... hes not saved because God chose not to save him..
Wrong. None choose God, but God in His mercy chose some. Honestly speaking, He should have chose none!
It removes Christ and His sacrifice completely from the picture which is demonic and once again Im reproaching you and this false teaching... its legalistic and a stumbling block..
How'd you get that? Do you not understand that it is ONLY by Jesus' sacrifice that ANYONE has a good standing with God? Without Jesus' sacrifice we are all God's worst enemies. Why would you assume that Calvinist removes the cross? Wow!
In this situation you need to eat your food and let others eat their food because like I said it has nothing to do with the salvation recipe I quoted.
This has everything to do with Salvation and I aim to show how. I'll begin a new thread.